BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency

Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 6:51AM CST

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Site sponsor TFSource has let us know that they have preorders up for the two newest 3rd party cassettes, BTS-05 Nightfang and Savage. While the pictures show what looks to be final product, TFSource has informed us that Nightfang and savage can combine with the 1st wave cassettes Tremor and Frequency. Pictures of the combination wont be available for a few days but stay here at Seibertron.com and we will bring them to you when available.

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Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352860)
Posted by megatronus on February 28th, 2012 @ 7:16am CST

I was never crazy about Sonicron or the corresponding versions of Rumble & Frenzy, but these guys might be a game changer for me.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352864)
Posted by Requiem Prime on February 28th, 2012 @ 7:53am CST

megatronus wrote:I was never crazy about Sonicron or the corresponding versions of Rumble & Frenzy, but these guys might be a game changer for me.

Me too. Ravage's tail seems odd, but I guess it's a compromise for jointing. I really like how his mouth is more naturally open.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352881)
Posted by MGrotusque on February 28th, 2012 @ 8:34am CST

Savage leaves something to be desired. I'm not really into it.

Nightfang on the other hand is great. The head sculpt is spectacular. I really like the cassette mode too. My only gripe is i would have liked his feet to split apart but no biggie.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352888)
Posted by Rated X on February 28th, 2012 @ 8:51am CST

PASS

Why does everything "Neo" have to fit into a G1 Soundwave ??? I dont mix my classics and G1 figures displays (except Sky-Lynx) I like what perfect effect did better, and hope they do a repaint set of Enemy and Wing Thing.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352892)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 28th, 2012 @ 8:55am CST

I love both of these. I have a growing cassette collection and will gladly add these two to it.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352912)
Posted by Sodan-1 on February 28th, 2012 @ 9:21am CST

I confess nothing BTS have done has ever struck a chord with me, but Nightfang is certainly plucking my strings. I don't like Perfect Effect's Kingbat but I do like what PE have done with the "Cassette" Transformers, and unfortunately this just won't fit in. Coupled with the fact I'd have to pay for what I think is the worst Ravage ever means I'll be skipping this offering too.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352917)
Posted by Requiem Prime on February 28th, 2012 @ 9:30am CST

Rated X wrote:PASS

Why does everything "Neo" have to fit into a G1 Soundwave ??? I dont mix my classics and G1 figures displays (except Sky-Lynx) I like what perfect effect did better, and hope they do a repaint set of Enemy and Wing Thing.

To some, the red version is Enemy. Wing Thing would be sweet, and they've never actually done Ravage. I know they're foraging new ground with Arcee, but I really hope a return to the minions is down the road.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352935)
Posted by Mkall on February 28th, 2012 @ 10:08am CST

I'm not liking that Ravage, but that Ratbat is loads better than PE's Kingbat

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352936)
Posted by alexison on February 28th, 2012 @ 10:09am CST

Yep, I'll be adding these two guys to my BBTS PoL when they become available. I really like the engineering that went into these two figures.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352939)
Posted by rpetras on February 28th, 2012 @ 10:12am CST

I want to like these ... but I don't.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352950)
Posted by necr0blivion on February 28th, 2012 @ 10:36am CST

So much negativity towards Savage, I think he's pretty top notch!

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352951)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 28th, 2012 @ 10:41am CST

Well, I guess I can't blame people for not liking these; they're pretty stylized. Much more so than any G1 figure or even Classics Ravage.

That said, I really like the way these look. Their take on Rumble and Fenzy I got only to add to my cassette army, but these guys I'd get to be their Neo G1 selves (if I mixed the tapes in with my classics collection). I think this version of Ravage blows the Universe version right out of the water! Although I don't know if he's better than the mastery that is G1 Ravage.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352996)
Posted by horus on February 28th, 2012 @ 12:16pm CST

ok.. i'm impressed, now i want to see how Ratbat combines with Frenzy or Rumble like they promissed..

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1352999)
Posted by zodconvoy on February 28th, 2012 @ 12:30pm CST

Something was bothering me about that Ravage that I couldn't put my finger on at first until I checked out TFSource's entire little gallery. They have a pick of him howling like a wolf. They totally mistook Ravage for a dog! That explains the proportions being wonky. I'm getting that Ratbat and I'm not even sure what I'm going to do with that Ravage.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1353002)
Posted by craggy on February 28th, 2012 @ 12:41pm CST

I don't know that I'd call Savage by the name Ravage, he doesn't look quite enough like other versions of the character to me. And I have reissue G1 Ravage that's fine, but Nightfang is a really nice Ratbat, and they're pretty cheap for the pair.

I passed on fashion models Frumble and Renzy, but am feeling myself slipping off the fence about these two.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1353003)
Posted by triKlops on February 28th, 2012 @ 12:41pm CST

nice, I had been waiting to see what these would be like for my Sonicron
i wasnt that interested in the Frenzy/ Rumble set but these look great,especially Ratbat

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1353053)
Posted by MGrotusque on February 28th, 2012 @ 2:48pm CST

necr0blivion wrote:So much negativity towards Savage, I think he's pretty top notch!

I firmly believe that nobody has made a better Ravage than the G1 mold. That mold in all honesty is the most feline looking of any interpretation since.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1353060)
Posted by Requiem Prime on February 28th, 2012 @ 3:11pm CST

BBTS has their preorder up. Not crazy about the price, especially since BTS has only produced "okay" in my book, but I'm interested in Ratbat. And see potential in Savage.

zodconvoy wrote:Something was bothering me about that Ravage that I couldn't put my finger on at first until I checked out TFSource's entire little gallery. They have a pick of him howling like a wolf. They totally mistook Ravage for a dog! That explains the proportions being wonky. I'm getting that Ratbat and I'm not even sure what I'm going to do with that Ravage.

Don't see him as Ravage, say he's a new bot that becomes a greyhound. Just look:

And here's your movie version

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1353510)
Posted by Flashwave on February 29th, 2012 @ 4:30pm CST

ou know, if I wasn;t so hell-bent on changing Laserbeak to Ratbat to clear the name up, Nightfang would make a dead-awesome Prime Ratbat.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355489)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on March 6th, 2012 @ 2:34pm CST

As promised, TFSource has updated their facebook page with the combination pics of BTS-05 wave 1 Tremor & Frequency and wave 2 Nightfang & Savage. There are also some additional images of Nightfang & Savage to help you decide to buy.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355491)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on March 6th, 2012 @ 2:37pm CST

Since when is "riding a panther" a combination?

Hell, I guess I'm a combiner too when I go horseback riding.

Both of these are supremely lazy, I was expecting something a bit more combiney than "I become a dude's head" and "Wheee! I'm a cowboy!"

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355496)
Posted by griftimus prime on March 6th, 2012 @ 2:47pm CST

why?

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355498)
Posted by GuyIncognito on March 6th, 2012 @ 2:50pm CST

So "combine" = "put one on top of the other"? >:oP

When I get home from work today, I'm going to combine with my sofa.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355499)
Posted by Mkall on March 6th, 2012 @ 2:50pm CST

Still getting the set for Ratbat, but these "combinations" are pretty much pointless.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355508)
Posted by DevastaTTor on March 6th, 2012 @ 3:09pm CST

So when I use the toilet, I'm in combined mode? Cool!

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355510)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on March 6th, 2012 @ 3:13pm CST

Unless Ratbat somehow pegs into place it's not much of a combination. Frenzy's combination with Ravage is a bad joke. I could think it was fine if they didn't advertize it as "combination" at all.

Although I do like their Ravage and Ratbat, this "combination" business .... let us not speak of it again, BTS.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355511)
Posted by necr0blivion on March 6th, 2012 @ 3:14pm CST

BTS trolled us, but I'll still be picking up Nightfang & Savage. I really hope this "combination" with Savage is not the primary reason why Frequency/Tremor have such wide, child-bearing hips.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355514)
Posted by necr0blivion on March 6th, 2012 @ 3:15pm CST

DevastaTTor wrote:So when I use the toilet, I'm in combined mode? Cool!

"Ravage, eject!"

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355522)
Posted by DISCHARGE on March 6th, 2012 @ 3:31pm CST

necr0blivion wrote:
DevastaTTor wrote:So when I use the toilet, I'm in combined mode? Cool!

"Ravage, eject!"

Hurty and violent. :SICK:

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355525)
Posted by mattwhite924 on March 6th, 2012 @ 3:43pm CST

Midnight_Fox wrote:Both of these are supremely lazy, I was expecting something a bit more combiney than "I become a dude's head" and "Wheee! I'm a cowboy!"

I'll be honest, if it came with a little cowboy hat for Frenzy/Rumble I would buy the crap out of it.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355529)
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on March 6th, 2012 @ 3:55pm CST

necr0blivion wrote:
DevastaTTor wrote:So when I use the toilet, I'm in combined mode? Cool!

"Ravage, eject!"

OMFG, I seriously am cracking up after reading that!

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355530)
Posted by zodconvoy on March 6th, 2012 @ 3:56pm CST

Do you want to know what kills these for me? The holes. I realize that cassettes have holes in them and that the Hasbro cassettes use them for weapon ports. These don't use them for anything. They just gouge out areas that should have been utilized to make the bot & bat & dog-that's-supposed-to-be-a-cat look a little less... brittle. That's the word I'm going with. And the "combinations" are asinine.

I was really looking forward to the Ratbat from the designs we say months ago, I was iffy when we first saw the pics but preordered it in the hopes that it was going to be better. Preorder cancelled, I still need a Classics Ratbat. >:oP

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355532)
Posted by liveconvoy on March 6th, 2012 @ 4:04pm CST

necr0blivion wrote:
DevastaTTor wrote:So when I use the toilet, I'm in combined mode? Cool!

"Ravage, eject!"

Great minds. My webcomic from a while back:

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355546)
Posted by Covenant on March 6th, 2012 @ 4:52pm CST

Soooooo, Savage wearing Nightfang as an asshat is a 'combination'?

I'd like an apology from the flak I took from fellow fans about Energon combinations at this point, please.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355547)
Posted by Stormrider on March 6th, 2012 @ 4:53pm CST

They look inferior to the G1 products. Why buy these over the G1 version?

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355551)
Posted by phase on March 6th, 2012 @ 5:08pm CST

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm glad I didn't get BTS Soundwave, I'm glad I didn't get BTS Rumble and Frenzy, and now I'm glad I'm not getting this set.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355556)
Posted by zodconvoy on March 6th, 2012 @ 5:17pm CST

phase wrote:I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm glad I didn't get BTS Soundwave, I'm glad I didn't get BTS Rumble and Frenzy, and now I'm glad I'm not getting this set.

Sonicron looks like bad cosplay, Rumble & Frenzy are anorexic, Ravage is a greyhound, and Ratbat is just... disappointing. The "combined" mode (singular or Sparks from Sealab 2021 is a gestalt) are clearly accidental.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355563)
Posted by DavidT on March 6th, 2012 @ 5:29pm CST

I kinda like all the designs of theses figures. They could possibly fit in with the Transformers Animated line... I could see them in the cartoon!

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355564)
Posted by --B-- on March 6th, 2012 @ 5:29pm CST

To quote my 7 year old son: "Lame".

And my 5 year old son: "Eww"

That is all.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355568)
Posted by Mkall on March 6th, 2012 @ 5:39pm CST

zodconvoy wrote:
phase wrote:I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm glad I didn't get BTS Soundwave, I'm glad I didn't get BTS Rumble and Frenzy, and now I'm glad I'm not getting this set.

Sonicron looks like bad cosplay, Rumble & Frenzy are anorexic, Ravage is a greyhound, and Ratbat is just... disappointing. The "combined" mode (singular or Sparks from Sealab 2021 is a gestalt) are clearly accidental.

Ya know... I looked at these pictures... then I looked at the original promo pics that got me excited to own Ratbat... then I went to BBTS and cancelled my preorder.

It's seriously not worth it for me.

BTS, you had all sorts of potential going for you. What happened? You made the first add-on weapons kit I recall, followed up by a decent Classics Prime Trailer. Then things went very down hill.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355571)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on March 6th, 2012 @ 5:50pm CST

so according to these guys if i put on a hat or sitting on somthing im combining with it, what an extremely lazy way of doing a gimmick. The figures themselves look good but thats not really combining, well the first one kinda is but the second one isnt.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355583)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on March 6th, 2012 @ 6:18pm CST

I am digging that Ratbat!

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355585)
Posted by TFhunter on March 6th, 2012 @ 6:20pm CST

So "combine" = "put one on top of the other"?

When I get home from work today, I'm going to combine with my sofa.

I combine with my woman a lot.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355588)
Posted by Zeedust on March 6th, 2012 @ 6:38pm CST

DavidT wrote:I kinda like all the designs of theses figures. They could possibly fit in with the Transformers Animated line... I could see them in the cartoon!

What did Animated ever do to you?

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355602)
Posted by Sodan-1 on March 6th, 2012 @ 7:32pm CST

I'm sorry, but that's simply not cool enough. Pass.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355628)
Posted by Rated X on March 6th, 2012 @ 9:12pm CST

I really dont like this line. They are too boxy to go with classics figures. Too much is sacraficed just to make them fit into a G1 Soundwave's chest. First we need a real classics Soundwave, then make cassettes that look good with him.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355660)
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on March 6th, 2012 @ 10:50pm CST

Although the "combined" modes are junk, I still like them as individual characters.

*Edit* I hope that "Savage" gets some ears. It looks ridiculous without a pair of them.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355714)
Posted by Sodan-1 on March 7th, 2012 @ 5:58am CST

DISCHARGE wrote:
necr0blivion wrote:
DevastaTTor wrote:So when I use the toilet, I'm in combined mode? Cool!

"Ravage, eject!"

Hurty and violent.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355848)
Posted by alexison on March 7th, 2012 @ 12:38pm CST

I don't care for Ravage hardly at all but I'm still going to pick up this set. I received my Rumble & Frenzy this week & the quality is nice. Plus, I really like that Ratbat, moreso than the PE version.

Re: BTS-05 Nightfang & Savage Preorder Up: Combines with Tremor & Frequency (1355967)
Posted by Shadowstream on March 7th, 2012 @ 6:54pm CST

Terrible combination 'gimmicks' aside, am I the only one who thinks all of these guys look worse than their G1 counterparts?

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