Bumblebee will be the Rarest non TH Hotwheels Car in 2024's Collection
Monday, June 10th, 2024 2:57PM CDT
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That means that in each case he's in, he will be on par in rarity with the standard Treasure Hunt cars. And looking at it from an entire year's output, he will be 2 out of 1080. That makes the Hotwheels Bumblebee car the rarest standard car from the 2024 set, which is not a Treasure Hunt car.
For those unaware, Treasure Hunt cars are those which are at most 1 per case and will not repeat in a following case (so at most 1 out of 1080 if you buy every case of 72 cars in a given year).
With both Transformers fans and Hotwheels fans interested in this collectible, Bumblebee could become quite the hot commodity. Especially since this would be the very first release in a growing collection of Hotwheels Transformers cars. So, for those wondering which other cars are in the same waves as Bumblebee, we have videos of the cases below.
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Posted by TulioDude on June 10th, 2024 @ 4:30pm CDT
I'm more hyped for this than the hotwheels version of g1 toy Optimus.
Day 1623 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by o.supreme on June 10th, 2024 @ 4:44pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 10th, 2024 @ 5:28pm CDT
I suspect that if the employees don't snatch it ups first the early bird HW collectors will be there first thing.
Posted by william-james88 on June 10th, 2024 @ 5:38pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Yeah, I'll keep an eye out and if I spot it I'll buy it, but I'm not a big collector of HW in general so if I can't find it oh well. It's a neat niche item to have but not worth any hassle.
I suspect that if the employees don't snatch it ups first the early bird HW collectors will be there first thing.
My local dollar store gets stuff half a year late but the employees dont care. So today I actually found a treasure hunt item. Will probably see this bumblebee at the beginning of next year
Posted by Emerje on June 11th, 2024 @ 1:54pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:Yeah, I'll keep an eye out and if I spot it I'll buy it, but I'm not a big collector of HW in general so if I can't find it oh well. It's a neat niche item to have but not worth any hassle.
I suspect that if the employees don't snatch it ups first the early bird HW collectors will be there first thing.
My local dollar store gets stuff half a year late but the employees dont care. So today I actually found a treasure hunt item. Will probably see this bumblebee at the beginning of next year
I was reading an article recently about things you didn't know about Dollar Tree and one of the things they said was that it isn't uncommon for them hand over a HW case to whoever shows up first as long as they put the cars they don't want on the pegs for them in return. What an unexpected dichotomy, usually you hear about HW buyers being a nuisance.
Emerje
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 11th, 2024 @ 6:00pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I'm really hoping that the only reason it's rare is to get people talking (like we are) and they plan on doing many other releases later on, maybe even in a multipack with those other cars that were listed but haven't been revealed yet.william-james88 wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:Yeah, I'll keep an eye out and if I spot it I'll buy it, but I'm not a big collector of HW in general so if I can't find it oh well. It's a neat niche item to have but not worth any hassle.
I suspect that if the employees don't snatch it ups first the early bird HW collectors will be there first thing.
My local dollar store gets stuff half a year late but the employees dont care. So today I actually found a treasure hunt item. Will probably see this bumblebee at the beginning of next year
I was reading an article recently about things you didn't know about Dollar Tree and one of the things they said was that it isn't uncommon for them hand over a HW case to whoever shows up first as long as they put the cars they don't want on the pegs for them in return. What an unexpected dichotomy, usually you hear about HW buyers being a nuisance.
Emerje
Every collector after about six months has at least one HW collector story.
Posted by Dino-Snarl on June 11th, 2024 @ 8:56pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on June 12th, 2024 @ 10:07am CDT
Emerje wrote:I was reading an article recently about things you didn't know about Dollar Tree and one of the things they said was that it isn't uncommon for them hand over a HW case to whoever shows up first as long as they put the cars they don't want on the pegs for them in return. What an unexpected dichotomy, usually you hear about HW buyers being a nuisance.
Emerje
Interesting, when I worked retail this was not something that would be allowed by the bigger chains. Sure a customer could look through a box of product If they so choose to, but not put product away on the shelf. That is your job as an employee.
Posted by william-james88 on June 12th, 2024 @ 10:23am CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:Emerje wrote:I was reading an article recently about things you didn't know about Dollar Tree and one of the things they said was that it isn't uncommon for them hand over a HW case to whoever shows up first as long as they put the cars they don't want on the pegs for them in return. What an unexpected dichotomy, usually you hear about HW buyers being a nuisance.
Emerje
Interesting, when I worked retail this was not something that would be allowed by the bigger chains. Sure a customer could look through a box of product If they so choose to, but not put product away on the shelf. That is your job as an employee.
It's cause Dollar Tree has next to no enforced policy for stuff like that. They don't even have enough workers to man the store, so anyone showing up and volunteering to put stuff away is given an ok from the staff there.
Posted by william-james88 on June 24th, 2024 @ 7:09pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Soi glad I have no desire to get these. Hotwheels fans are ruthless. Going to be interesting if these ever actually show up in a store.
After looking into it, I kinda get it. We’d be just as ruthless if a TF we wanted was 1 per case of 72 (or 1 per 5 cases of 72)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 24th, 2024 @ 7:14pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 24th, 2024 @ 7:19pm CDT
While these are cars of Transformers alt modes from live action media, the Transformers characters are not named, nor are they shown on the art. Instead, each pack simply has the name of the car with standard evergreen Transformers art, not reflective of the product, making them a lot less interesting to collect for MISC collectors.
Still, if real this would be another way to get Bumblebee, which is rare in the mainline.
The « characters » in this subline are Crosshairs, Bumblebee, Stinger, Drift and Barricade.





Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 24th, 2024 @ 7:22pm CDT
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on June 24th, 2024 @ 7:44pm CDT
Will definitely try and track down the Bayverse ones!
Posted by whacko on June 25th, 2024 @ 7:08am CDT
Posted by TulioDude on June 25th, 2024 @ 10:56pm CDT
I like seeing Crosshairs here, I kinda hoped that he would become the standard version of the character, like how Barricade became a recurring Decepticon.
Posted by Quantum Surge on June 26th, 2024 @ 1:07pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 6th, 2024 @ 1:22pm CDT
We also got wind of an upcoming variant meant to come out later in the year, thanks to an ebay listing. This is a gold variant. This is not a chase or rarer release. It will be a regular release within the same year in a later case.


Posted by Emerje on August 6th, 2024 @ 3:30pm CDT
I said before that there was no way they were only doing one Bumblebee and I'm glad I'm right. Not sure why the one everyone would want is the chase and Goldbug is the regular release, that feels like a major oversight.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on August 6th, 2024 @ 6:04pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I think I've seen that wave at Target, or at least I'd seen that wheelchair and blue truck, not sure if they're part of that wave. My local Walmart hasn't stocked the Hot Wheels in months.
I said before that there was no way they were only doing one Bumblebee and I'm glad I'm right. Not sure why the one everyone would want is the chase and Goldbug is the regular release, that feels like a major oversight.
Emerje
Neither are chase, both are regular releases found in more than one wave/case
Also cases always repeat new cars from the previous case so its not a sure thing that you got this BB case or the previous one.
I have not found info on this BB case found at US retail yet. Just specialty stores at a markup
Posted by Emerje on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:01pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Neither are chase, both are regular releases found in more than one wave/case
How ridiculous are Hot Wheels packouts if 1 out of every 72 isn't considered a chase? That sounds like anything but "regular".
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on August 7th, 2024 @ 8:40pm CDT
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Neither are chase, both are regular releases found in more than one wave/case
How ridiculous are Hot Wheels packouts if 1 out of every 72 isn't considered a chase? That sounds like anything but "regular".
Emerje
Chase is 1 out of every 72 and only found in one case. Both these Bumblebees will be featured in more than one case. So those arent chase, they are regular releases.
What's chase is this car for instance. It's in the first case of 2024, only packed one per case and won't be found in any other case after that, even though you need it to complete the 2024 set (it's numbered 8 out of 250). So that's a chase.

These Bumblebees will get repacked in the following case. So even if they are 1 out of 72 in each of their two cases, they are at least two times more easy to find than any of the chase releases this year (below is a list):
https://hotwheels.fandom.com/wiki/2024_ ... nts_Series
Posted by Emerje on August 8th, 2024 @ 10:16am CDT
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on August 8th, 2024 @ 10:44am CDT
Emerje wrote:I don't know, it sounds insane to me that 1 out of 72 is a chase, but 2 out of 144 isn't. It makes even less sense when a particular store could put out one of the two Bumblebee cases and two of the police car case and your own odds are exactly the same regardless. Their benchmark for what is a chase and what isn't razor thin because it assumes every store gets every case when some stores go many months without restocking. I've been watching the Hot Wheels aisle at Walmart since these were first announced and they haven't put any new stock out since and the selection was already very thin.
Emerje
Your math isnt right there. When looking at 2 consecutive cases as you are doing, a chase is 1/144 since it wont repeat while BB (a non chase) is 2/144. So a chase remains twice more rare in the grand scheme of things.
Looking at your Walmart example, if they dont stock one of the cases with BB, then you still have a chance they stock the other case he’s in while you have absolutely no chance of getting the chase since they skipped that one case, and thus must buy it on the secondary market at whatever markup.
In an entire year’s assortment, BB in standard yellow will appear 2/1080 cars while a chase like that police car will appear only 1/1080. He remains the rarest non chase, but he’s still not a chase.
Posted by Emerje on August 9th, 2024 @ 4:48am CDT
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on August 9th, 2024 @ 12:59pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Again that sounds like pure insanity to me. Both are unbelievably rare and that doesn't really change the chances of the average person finding one in stores at all, the 6am crowd will make sure of it.
Emerje
I agree with that. I just wanted to show why one was labelled chase and the other one wasn't.
And you know, there's also super chase ones which are only found in one out of 4 of the same case.
So Bumblebee is 2 out of 1080
Any given Chase is 1 out of 1080
And a Super chase is 0.25 out of 1080
When looking at a year's output.
I was able to find the chase (and Bumblebee) in stores, no need for 6 am but I have yet to ever find a super chase.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 9th, 2024 @ 6:16pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 9th, 2024 @ 8:22pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on August 10th, 2024 @ 7:12pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Here's the normal state of the HW aisle at my local Walmart as of Friday morning. Maybe I'll get lucky and they'll put two Bumblebee cases up, but I'm not holding my breath.
Emerje
That's not a lot. Are the rest in bins nearby?
Posted by Emerje on August 11th, 2024 @ 6:29am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Here's the normal state of the HW aisle at my local Walmart as of Friday morning. Maybe I'll get lucky and they'll put two Bumblebee cases up, but I'm not holding my breath.
Emerje
That's not a lot. Are the rest in bins nearby?
Nope, that's the entirety of the singles. By contrast, here's Target Saturday morning.
And that's how I usually see it, they're always restocking.
Incidentally I saw the Transformers HW Skateboards for the first time over in the TFOne display.
Emerje
Posted by ScottyP on August 14th, 2024 @ 7:24pm CDT
Good luck finding anything at a Tuesday Morningchuckdawg1999 wrote:You know. I read somewhere that stores like Tuesday Morning get the rare Hot Wheels because major retailers send the cases to them when they don't have the shelf space. If you're nice they let you open them and stock the shelves, you can keep what you want.

Posted by Emerje on August 16th, 2024 @ 7:33pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Good luck finding anything at a Tuesday Morningchuckdawg1999 wrote:You know. I read somewhere that stores like Tuesday Morning get the rare Hot Wheels because major retailers send the cases to them when they don't have the shelf space. If you're nice they let you open them and stock the shelves, you can keep what you want.
Maaaaan, I remember when that place would get some crazy expensive collectible figures for like $20. That was around 20 years ago...
Anyway, my local Walmart not only finally restocked their Hot Wheels but also put a massive display in the main aisle (one side was all cars and playset, I think the other side was Barbie or something). Unfortunately both were pretty well picked over already.
Emerje
Posted by SGMLordMirage on September 18th, 2024 @ 5:45pm CDT
SGM
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 18th, 2024 @ 6:07pm CDT
SGMLordMirage wrote:So I got extremely lucky and found Bumblebee at a local flea market store. There was two in the case and only for $6.00. I know that is more than retail but definitely cheaper than what I've seen in other places on line.
SGM
Ya did good at $6, outside of getting lucky at retail that's the cheapest anyone will ever pay for it.
Posted by SGMLordMirage on September 18th, 2024 @ 6:14pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on October 3rd, 2024 @ 4:18pm CDT
Credit goes to eltonlin98 over at tfw2005 for the news and the photo.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 3rd, 2024 @ 5:11pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:It appears a Hot Wheels Track Fleet Ultra Magnus has bee revealed at the 38th Hot Wheels convention.
Credit goes to eltonlin98 over at tfw2005 for the news and the photo.
That looks sweet.
Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2024 @ 9:56am CDT
Overcracker wrote:It appears a Hot Wheels Track Fleet Ultra Magnus has bee revealed at the 38th Hot Wheels convention.
Credit goes to eltonlin98 over at tfw2005 for the news and the photo.
I'll still give you the credit for reporting it to us
Posted by Overcracker on October 6th, 2024 @ 12:18pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:It appears a Hot Wheels Track Fleet Ultra Magnus has bee revealed at the 38th Hot Wheels convention.
Credit goes to eltonlin98 over at tfw2005 for the news and the photo.
I'll still give you the credit for reporting it to us
Thanks.

Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2024 @ 4:53pm CDT






Posted by Flashwave on October 7th, 2024 @ 11:42pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on October 8th, 2024 @ 8:51am CDT
Flashwave wrote:This looks great, but I really wish they had done these in their larger truck+car sets. None of my Walmarts or Targets are carrying these smaller track performance semis in stores that I can find. Give me Optimus and Bumblebee as a set, or if you want to leave Bee as an assortment use one of the Porsche models and make a Jazz. I don’t know who you bundle with Magnus but there are several “good” choices
Yeah, I've only seen the Super Rigs in stores, never seen the Track Fleet trucks. I found listings for Prime on Walmart.com and Target.com, but both are sold out, priced at $5.50 while BBTS has bumped it up to $10.
Emerje
Posted by Dino-Snarl on October 11th, 2024 @ 8:11pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 22nd, 2024 @ 11:49am CDT
So yes, the variant will be less rare than the original.
You can see the case breakdown of the 2024 Q case and 2025 A case in the videos below. The gold variant should be hitting stores in the holiday season.
Posted by william-james88 on October 22nd, 2024 @ 1:20pm CDT
Western retailers are now selling the complete set as a pack of 4 and not 5. However, not all retailers are sending theirs back to Mattel, with certain Asian based sellers still selling Barricade online, albeit at higher prices.
We don't know if this toy will be rereleased (with out without the words on the side) but right now this toy has the potential to become a really hot Hot Wheels collectible.
https://www.instagram.com/kenbotbot/reel/DBO1X4ZgFxr/
Posted by Triceratops3 on October 22nd, 2024 @ 6:36pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on October 22nd, 2024 @ 8:30pm CDT
Posted by Rtron on October 22nd, 2024 @ 9:17pm CDT
Posted by bbird on October 23rd, 2024 @ 5:54pm CDT
If it had anything to do with "punish and enslave" or consumer sensitivity, they'd just do a running change to stop printing it on the car.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 23rd, 2024 @ 9:59pm CDT
