Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno
Tuesday, May 9th, 2017 11:41AM CDT
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Hasbro artist Ken Christiansen has posted an image of his concept art for Titans Return Twinferno's toy. You can see what made it and didn't make it to the final toy. For instance, we can see the stark contrast for the organic arms and legs in dragon mode. However, the dragon heads do not have an underbite and the the torso is more wide than it is long.
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
Credit(s): Ken Christiansen
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Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880512)
Posted by Qwan on May 9th, 2017 @ 4:32pm CDT
Posted by Qwan on May 9th, 2017 @ 4:32pm CDT
I do wonder how it was intended to transform, though - assuming it would use the same transformation scheme as the final TR toy would make for an extremely wonky robot mode. I have to admit that the monster mode does look fantastic there... but where was the TM cockpit originally, I wonder? There doesn't seem to be one on the chest.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880518)
Posted by Kurona on May 9th, 2017 @ 4:43pm CDT
Maybe this was like the original Galvatron and Alpha Trion designs; where they weren't initially designed for Titans Return but got co-opted in? It would certainly go some way in explaining why he's randomly there and his two cohorts don't get the same treatment.
Posted by Kurona on May 9th, 2017 @ 4:43pm CDT
Qwan wrote:I do wonder how it was intended to transform, though - assuming it would use the same transformation scheme as the final TR toy would make for an extremely wonky robot mode. I have to admit that the monster mode does look fantastic there... but where was the TM cockpit originally, I wonder? There doesn't seem to be one on the chest.
Maybe this was like the original Galvatron and Alpha Trion designs; where they weren't initially designed for Titans Return but got co-opted in? It would certainly go some way in explaining why he's randomly there and his two cohorts don't get the same treatment.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880528)
Posted by Qwan on May 9th, 2017 @ 5:36pm CDT
Hmm, that might be right. Given that the final product doesn't exactly have the greatest TM integration (cockpit on the front, two pegs on the back), it doesn't seem far off that the design could have been altered to accommodate them - plus possibly some other changes.
In fact, if the original transformation scheme involved rotating the beast heads out to the sides, rather than downward on a single panel as in the final, that could also explain a) what the hypothetical chest space could be used for in robot mode (to store the beast arms that may rotate in there to hide); and b) why the torso is so short, since if there's no need for a cockpit or that huge long folding chest-flap, the body can be as short and stocky as they'd want! That would also explain why the neck bases/robot shoulders seem to be attached directly to the top of the torso, rather than to the inner-front of the chest and then pegged into the top of the torso, if the panel they're attached to was intended to be there (instead of above and in front).
Man, I don't even know if I'm articulating this well at all. It's definitely not an obvious change, more something I'm just sort of constructing in my mind, but at the same time I wouldn't say it's too impossible for that to have been the case originally. TL;DR Hypothetical alternate transformation schemes are fun! I still don't know what they'd do about those teensy robot legs, though...
Posted by Qwan on May 9th, 2017 @ 5:36pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Qwan wrote:I do wonder how it was intended to transform, though - assuming it would use the same transformation scheme as the final TR toy would make for an extremely wonky robot mode. I have to admit that the monster mode does look fantastic there... but where was the TM cockpit originally, I wonder? There doesn't seem to be one on the chest.
Maybe this was like the original Galvatron and Alpha Trion designs; where they weren't initially designed for Titans Return but got co-opted in? It would certainly go some way in explaining why he's randomly there and his two cohorts don't get the same treatment.
Hmm, that might be right. Given that the final product doesn't exactly have the greatest TM integration (cockpit on the front, two pegs on the back), it doesn't seem far off that the design could have been altered to accommodate them - plus possibly some other changes.
In fact, if the original transformation scheme involved rotating the beast heads out to the sides, rather than downward on a single panel as in the final, that could also explain a) what the hypothetical chest space could be used for in robot mode (to store the beast arms that may rotate in there to hide); and b) why the torso is so short, since if there's no need for a cockpit or that huge long folding chest-flap, the body can be as short and stocky as they'd want! That would also explain why the neck bases/robot shoulders seem to be attached directly to the top of the torso, rather than to the inner-front of the chest and then pegged into the top of the torso, if the panel they're attached to was intended to be there (instead of above and in front).
Man, I don't even know if I'm articulating this well at all. It's definitely not an obvious change, more something I'm just sort of constructing in my mind, but at the same time I wouldn't say it's too impossible for that to have been the case originally. TL;DR Hypothetical alternate transformation schemes are fun! I still don't know what they'd do about those teensy robot legs, though...
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880533)
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 9th, 2017 @ 6:17pm CDT
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 9th, 2017 @ 6:17pm CDT
I love this artwork. My Twinferno is my new fave and I like this beginning to the design process.
Maybe they'd still unfold from the tail end? I do like how they managed to turn him into a TR if this was a previous design. To those that have this toy, I have a question. What is the purpose of his crotch plate being able to flip up? Just for added leg articulation?
Qwan wrote: Hmm, that might be right. Given that the final product doesn't exactly have the greatest TM integration (cockpit on the front, two pegs on the back), it doesn't seem far off that the design could have been altered to accommodate them - plus possibly some other changes.
In fact, if the original transformation scheme involved rotating the beast heads out to the sides, rather than downward on a single panel as in the final, that could also explain a) what the hypothetical chest space could be used for in robot mode (to store the beast arms that may rotate in there to hide); and b) why the torso is so short, since if there's no need for a cockpit or that huge long folding chest-flap, the body can be as short and stocky as they'd want! That would also explain why the neck bases/robot shoulders seem to be attached directly to the top of the torso, rather than to the inner-front of the chest and then pegged into the top of the torso, if the panel they're attached to was intended to be there (instead of above and in front).
Man, I don't even know if I'm articulating this well at all. It's definitely not an obvious change, more something I'm just sort of constructing in my mind, but at the same time I wouldn't say it's too impossible for that to have been the case originally. TL;DR Hypothetical alternate transformation schemes are fun! I still don't know what they'd do about those teensy robot legs, though...
Maybe they'd still unfold from the tail end? I do like how they managed to turn him into a TR if this was a previous design. To those that have this toy, I have a question. What is the purpose of his crotch plate being able to flip up? Just for added leg articulation?
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880535)
Posted by Qwan on May 9th, 2017 @ 6:35pm CDT
Heh, yeah you're probably right. I'd somehow forgotten how Twinferno's lower body transforms (despite having owned him for like four months
), and had this idea that the puny little lower-monster-body was what turned into his entire lower legs. But yeah, now that you've reminded me how the thing actually works, the tail's probably still big enough to retain fine leg proportions in robot mode.
Yeah, it seems to be pretty much for articulation only. It certainly doesn't do anything for beast mode - in fact, if you have it in any position other than default-straight-down, it gets in the way of a bunch of connections for the legs and tail. So yeah, probably just to let him move his robot hips more than like 10 degrees forward.
(I'm pretty confident on the above, but I understand if you don't trust me on it, seeing as I'm the same guy who totally forgot how the toy even worked an hour ago.
)
Posted by Qwan on May 9th, 2017 @ 6:35pm CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Maybe they'd still unfold from the tail end?
Heh, yeah you're probably right. I'd somehow forgotten how Twinferno's lower body transforms (despite having owned him for like four months
), and had this idea that the puny little lower-monster-body was what turned into his entire lower legs. But yeah, now that you've reminded me how the thing actually works, the tail's probably still big enough to retain fine leg proportions in robot mode.Nexus Knight wrote:To those that have this toy, I have a question. What is the purpose of his crotch plate being able to flip up? Just for added leg articulation?
Yeah, it seems to be pretty much for articulation only. It certainly doesn't do anything for beast mode - in fact, if you have it in any position other than default-straight-down, it gets in the way of a bunch of connections for the legs and tail. So yeah, probably just to let him move his robot hips more than like 10 degrees forward.
(I'm pretty confident on the above, but I understand if you don't trust me on it, seeing as I'm the same guy who totally forgot how the toy even worked an hour ago.
)
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880539)
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 9th, 2017 @ 7:11pm CDT
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 9th, 2017 @ 7:11pm CDT
Haha, no prob. I just found out something cool about one of my toys I've had for a long while (don't remember which, so lotta good that did me). Though, I did notice that I'm not the only one who thinks his torso is a bit on the short end. His proportions seem fine in bot mode, but something about it just feels off.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880585)
Posted by Jason5billion on May 9th, 2017 @ 10:03pm CDT
A Nickel would be good, and it would be really good if I could get one for a nickel.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Posted by Jason5billion on May 9th, 2017 @ 10:03pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:If we are taling about female TFs, I would rather we get a Nickel before Glyph.
EDIT: I realize we are rather talking of redecos for this BB mold, oops.
A Nickel would be good, and it would be really good if I could get one for a nickel.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880597)
Posted by hurricane567 on May 9th, 2017 @ 10:49pm CDT
Posted by hurricane567 on May 9th, 2017 @ 10:49pm CDT
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880601)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 9th, 2017 @ 11:17pm CDT
Can you please explain what this has to do with the current discussion and/or topic?
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 9th, 2017 @ 11:17pm CDT
hurricane567 wrote:http://neworleansicecream.com/
Can you please explain what this has to do with the current discussion and/or topic?
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880609)
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 10th, 2017 @ 12:08am CDT
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 10th, 2017 @ 12:08am CDT
Can't let this one go by...
There's ice cream there for a Nickel or someone's Twinferno is having a cold spell.
Go ahead and delete this if irrelevant, even though you'll do it anyways.
Bronzewolf wrote:hurricane567 wrote:http://neworleansicecream.com/
Can you please explain what this has to do with the current discussion and/or topic?
There's ice cream there for a Nickel or someone's Twinferno is having a cold spell.
Go ahead and delete this if irrelevant, even though you'll do it anyways.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880611)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 10th, 2017 @ 12:18am CDT
I think it's a late response to a certain someone's Ben & Jerry's purchase. Don't be surprised, it's pretty good ice cream.
Back to Titans Return toys. Uhm...
I was comparing my Broadside to pictures of Alpha Trion and am quite surprised at the amount of parts they share:
- the Titan Master
- the feet
- the outside of the lower legs plus the panels
- upper arms
- hip joints
- "stand" of ship mode
Not a retool in my book, just worth noting.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 10th, 2017 @ 12:18am CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Can't let this one go by...Bronzewolf wrote:hurricane567 wrote:http://neworleansicecream.com/
Can you please explain what this has to do with the current discussion and/or topic?
There's ice cream there for a Nickel or someone's Twinferno is having a cold spell.
Go ahead and delete this if irrelevant, even though you'll do it anyways.
I think it's a late response to a certain someone's Ben & Jerry's purchase. Don't be surprised, it's pretty good ice cream.
Back to Titans Return toys. Uhm...
I was comparing my Broadside to pictures of Alpha Trion and am quite surprised at the amount of parts they share:
- the Titan Master
- the feet
- the outside of the lower legs plus the panels
- upper arms
- hip joints
- "stand" of ship mode
Not a retool in my book, just worth noting.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880614)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 12:48am CDT
I bet we'll be seeing more and more parts-sharing moving forward, as designers/HasTak start pushing the limits of exactly how many parts they can share and in what ways they can be used (e.g. thigh parts as upper arms, etc). Not that I think this is a bad thing either; seeing cost-recouping measures evolve from straight repaints, to dual-purpose molds, to consistent remolding, to pretooling, to now parts-sharing, is really cool to see and I love the ever-increasing individuality and 'fitting-ness' of each character's toys.
Compare, say, Armada Blurr/Universe Swerve or Cybertron Landmine/Movie Grindcore to something like A3/Broadside nowadays, and I just can't help but feel amazed at how good HasTak has become at getting their money's worth out of a mold without making it feel like just a cost-saving strategy.
(Of course new-head redecos aren't obsolete quite yet - Chromedome and Breakaway testify to that - but they're in the minority now, and they definitely aren't nearly as clumsy about it as they used to be.)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 12:48am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I was comparing my Broadside to pictures of Alpha Trion and am quite surprised at the amount of parts they share:
- the Titan Master
- the feet
- the outside of the lower legs plus the panels
- upper arms
- hip joints
- "stand" of ship mode
Not a retool in my book, just worth noting.
I bet we'll be seeing more and more parts-sharing moving forward, as designers/HasTak start pushing the limits of exactly how many parts they can share and in what ways they can be used (e.g. thigh parts as upper arms, etc). Not that I think this is a bad thing either; seeing cost-recouping measures evolve from straight repaints, to dual-purpose molds, to consistent remolding, to pretooling, to now parts-sharing, is really cool to see and I love the ever-increasing individuality and 'fitting-ness' of each character's toys.
Compare, say, Armada Blurr/Universe Swerve or Cybertron Landmine/Movie Grindcore to something like A3/Broadside nowadays, and I just can't help but feel amazed at how good HasTak has become at getting their money's worth out of a mold without making it feel like just a cost-saving strategy.
(Of course new-head redecos aren't obsolete quite yet - Chromedome and Breakaway testify to that - but they're in the minority now, and they definitely aren't nearly as clumsy about it as they used to be.)
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880620)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 10th, 2017 @ 1:54am CDT
Don't worry, at least your comment had something to do with Transformers.
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 10th, 2017 @ 1:54am CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Can't let this one go by...Bronzewolf wrote:*Snip because we don't need the Link reposted several times*
There's ice cream there for a Nickel or someone's Twinferno is having a cold spell.
Go ahead and delete this if irrelevant, even though you'll do it anyways.
Don't worry, at least your comment had something to do with Transformers.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880625)
Posted by Va'al on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:07am CDT
Posted by Va'al on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:07am CDT
While we had seen the packages at Toy Fair Australia (see here), fellow Seibertronian Primeultimus brings us in-hand looks at new kid on the beach Seaspray and repackaged (from Generations) spaceboy Cosmos from the Titans Return toyline Legends class! Check them out below, and keep your optics peeled for more news soon!
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880627)
Posted by frogbat on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:35am CDT
Posted by frogbat on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:35am CDT
Was glad that cosmos turned out to be a reissue. Was already quite pleased with this version and yay one less tf to hunt for. Sea spray looks awesome and will be a fine addition to my legends collection
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880628)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:36am CDT
Ooooohoohoohoo I can't wait to get a chance to grab these guys! In the meantime though, I'm just plain excited to see more in-hand images of Seaspray because he still looks so amazing.
Interesting, though, that in-hand he looks a lot less 'clean' than he did in previous images. I'm sure part of it has to do with his legs being packaged sideways, but it just looks like he has a lot more obvious hinges and joints than the (IIRC) super-jointless-looking images I seem to remember. (I might just be misremembering of course.) Not that I mind it either, in fact it makes him fit in a bit better visually with his buddies - just interesting that the joints and lines seem a lot more prominent than I remember seeing in previous pictures.
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:36am CDT
Va'al wrote:While we had seen the packages at Toy Fair Australia (see here), fellow Seibertronian Primeultimus brings us in-hand looks at new kid on the beach Seaspray and repackaged (from Generations) spaceboy Cosmos from the Titans Return toyline Legends class! Check them out below, and keep your optics peeled for more news soon!
Ooooohoohoohoo I can't wait to get a chance to grab these guys! In the meantime though, I'm just plain excited to see more in-hand images of Seaspray because he still looks so amazing.
Interesting, though, that in-hand he looks a lot less 'clean' than he did in previous images. I'm sure part of it has to do with his legs being packaged sideways, but it just looks like he has a lot more obvious hinges and joints than the (IIRC) super-jointless-looking images I seem to remember. (I might just be misremembering of course.) Not that I mind it either, in fact it makes him fit in a bit better visually with his buddies - just interesting that the joints and lines seem a lot more prominent than I remember seeing in previous pictures.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880629)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:41am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:41am CDT
Oh I didn't realise Cosmos was getting re-branded as a Titans line figure. Considering how hard it was to find the previous 30th thrilling version that's actually a welcome re-release from Hasbro for once. Scrounge would have been nice too...
Actually since that Cosmos mold has been out for a while, does their happen to be an upscaled KO like I have of CW Powerglide?
Actually since that Cosmos mold has been out for a while, does their happen to be an upscaled KO like I have of CW Powerglide?
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880633)
Posted by Albatross250 on May 10th, 2017 @ 5:10am CDT
Posted by Albatross250 on May 10th, 2017 @ 5:10am CDT
SEASPRAY PIZZA SERVICE, DIAL AUTO-BOT FOR DELIVERY
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880642)
Posted by RAR on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:19am CDT
Posted by RAR on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:19am CDT
I kind wish they'd repainted Cosmos into the other shade of Green the Legion/EZ type one existed in as that would be nice to have that other shade of green in the bigger size.
I guess the mould change to the underside should make the turret form more feasible for the Micromaster/Targetmaster companion - it does fit in there on the original but it's a lot of effort to jam in there.
I guess the mould change to the underside should make the turret form more feasible for the Micromaster/Targetmaster companion - it does fit in there on the original but it's a lot of effort to jam in there.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880650)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:52am CDT
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:52am CDT
So weird that the package art is their vehicle mode. Is their collector card also of the vehicle?
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880656)
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 10th, 2017 @ 8:08am CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 10th, 2017 @ 8:08am CDT
It still strikes me as weird that they're re-releasing Cosmos. It's not like they needed to have a second figure in the wave. Other size classes only have one figure.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880661)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2017 @ 8:41am CDT
Yes
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2017 @ 8:41am CDT
Nik Hero wrote:So weird that the package art is their vehicle mode. Is their collector card also of the vehicle?
Yes
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880664)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 10th, 2017 @ 8:44am CDT
If I gave a crud about those lil cards I might get really annoyed by that inconsistency. I've kept the ones that came with figures I've bought in case anyone else wants them though.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 10th, 2017 @ 8:44am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Nik Hero wrote:So weird that the package art is their vehicle mode. Is their collector card also of the vehicle?
Yes
If I gave a crud about those lil cards I might get really annoyed by that inconsistency. I've kept the ones that came with figures I've bought in case anyone else wants them though.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880665)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on May 10th, 2017 @ 8:46am CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on May 10th, 2017 @ 8:46am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Nik Hero wrote:So weird that the package art is their vehicle mode. Is their collector card also of the vehicle?
Yes
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880674)
Posted by Va'al on May 10th, 2017 @ 9:08am CDT
I can hear ScottyP imploding from here.
Posted by Va'al on May 10th, 2017 @ 9:08am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Nik Hero wrote:So weird that the package art is their vehicle mode. Is their collector card also of the vehicle?
Yes
If I gave a crud about those lil cards I might get really annoyed by that inconsistency. I've kept the ones that came with figures I've bought in case anyone else wants them though.
I can hear ScottyP imploding from here.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880675)
Posted by Kurona on May 10th, 2017 @ 9:13am CDT
Posted by Kurona on May 10th, 2017 @ 9:13am CDT
I keep 'em around, they're kind of cute. Even when the CW ones featured them in completely different bodies...
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880677)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on May 10th, 2017 @ 9:23am CDT
My almost 7 year old son collects the cards if you'd like to give them up for adoption!
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on May 10th, 2017 @ 9:23am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Nik Hero wrote:So weird that the package art is their vehicle mode. Is their collector card also of the vehicle?
Yes
If I gave a crud about those lil cards I might get really annoyed by that inconsistency. I've kept the ones that came with figures I've bought in case anyone else wants them though.
My almost 7 year old son collects the cards if you'd like to give them up for adoption!
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880690)
Posted by Terrsolpix on May 10th, 2017 @ 10:35am CDT
Posted by Terrsolpix on May 10th, 2017 @ 10:35am CDT
It looks like Cosmos is a slightly darker shade of green, but is there any other change? Scrounge had one, and did that carry over or is there some new Titan-tooling?
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880704)
Posted by nycPrime on May 10th, 2017 @ 12:06pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on May 10th, 2017 @ 12:06pm CDT
FYI BBTS has Perceptor and Topspin back in stock. They also just listed Quake and Krok.
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/sear ... eturn%2004
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/sear ... eturn%2004
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880728)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on May 10th, 2017 @ 1:18pm CDT
That is ridiculous! 
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on May 10th, 2017 @ 1:18pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Nik Hero wrote:So weird that the package art is their vehicle mode. Is their collector card also of the vehicle?
Yes
That is ridiculous!
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880762)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 10th, 2017 @ 2:59pm CDT
*glances at twitter to see if rage has hit the airwaves yet*
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 10th, 2017 @ 2:59pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Nik Hero wrote:So weird that the package art is their vehicle mode. Is their collector card also of the vehicle?
Yes
If I gave a crud about those lil cards I might get really annoyed by that inconsistency. I've kept the ones that came with figures I've bought in case anyone else wants them though.
I can hear ScottyP imploding from here.
*glances at twitter to see if rage has hit the airwaves yet*
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880763)
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:02pm CDT
At least they are getting cards. What would be real dumb is if some came with cards and some came with comics, depending on where you are located geographically, making you unable to get all the set.
Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2017 @ 3:02pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Va'al wrote:
I can hear ScottyP imploding from here.
*glances at twitter to see if rage has hit the airwaves yet*
At least they are getting cards. What would be real dumb is if some came with cards and some came with comics, depending on where you are located geographically, making you unable to get all the set.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880792)
Posted by Jason5billion on May 10th, 2017 @ 4:25pm CDT
Posted by Jason5billion on May 10th, 2017 @ 4:25pm CDT
That's cool that they're doing newer versions of Seaspray and Cosmos. Can anyone tell me if there are newer versions of Wheelie and Cliffjumper? Maybe I should go look at that link Burn gave me.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880814)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 5:50pm CDT
There's definitely a newer version of Wheelie, from just the beginning of this line! Legends class; probably the best-looking G1-styled Wheelie we've gotten in a long time (ever?); there's some debate over whether he's ruined by QC issues leading to a not-very-secure vehicle mode, but if you can get one that pegs together solidly enough (like mine) then he's a genuinely fantastic figure! The only problem might be that he was in Wave 1 and most stores are up to Wave 3 or 4 now, so he may be a little hard to find at retail. I'm sure WJ88 or someone can source up a few online stores that still have him for a decent price, though.
As for Cliffjumper, the most recent update to him was a retool straight-up repaint (thanks Wolfman) of the Thrilling 30 Bumblebee mold, and that was about 3 years ago. I've never had that mold myself so I can't make a personal judgement, but from what I understand it's pretty decent (and also useful if you have the new Titans Return Bumblebee and want the two not to share a mold). Of course being so far out of production, you'd have to go secondhand to find him, but if you really want an updated Legends-class Cliffjumper now then that's by far your best option. (If you wait a while longer though, I'm sure we'll see another new Cliffjumper within the next couple years, possibly/probably as a redeco or retool of TR Bee. No guarantees though, of course, just theorising!)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 5:50pm CDT
Jason5billion wrote:That's cool that they're doing newer versions of Seaspray and Cosmos. Can anyone tell me if there are newer versions of Wheelie and Cliffjumper? Maybe I should go look at that link Burn gave me.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
There's definitely a newer version of Wheelie, from just the beginning of this line! Legends class; probably the best-looking G1-styled Wheelie we've gotten in a long time (ever?); there's some debate over whether he's ruined by QC issues leading to a not-very-secure vehicle mode, but if you can get one that pegs together solidly enough (like mine) then he's a genuinely fantastic figure! The only problem might be that he was in Wave 1 and most stores are up to Wave 3 or 4 now, so he may be a little hard to find at retail. I'm sure WJ88 or someone can source up a few online stores that still have him for a decent price, though.
As for Cliffjumper, the most recent update to him was a retool straight-up repaint (thanks Wolfman) of the Thrilling 30 Bumblebee mold, and that was about 3 years ago. I've never had that mold myself so I can't make a personal judgement, but from what I understand it's pretty decent (and also useful if you have the new Titans Return Bumblebee and want the two not to share a mold). Of course being so far out of production, you'd have to go secondhand to find him, but if you really want an updated Legends-class Cliffjumper now then that's by far your best option. (If you wait a while longer though, I'm sure we'll see another new Cliffjumper within the next couple years, possibly/probably as a redeco or retool of TR Bee. No guarantees though, of course, just theorising!)
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880815)
Posted by Overcracker on May 10th, 2017 @ 5:58pm CDT
Wheelie yes. Cliffjumper no.
Posted by Overcracker on May 10th, 2017 @ 5:58pm CDT
Jason5billion wrote:That's cool that they're doing newer versions of Seaspray and Cosmos. Can anyone tell me if there are newer versions of Wheelie and Cliffjumper? Maybe I should go look at that link Burn gave me.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Wheelie yes. Cliffjumper no.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880818)
Posted by Jason5billion on May 10th, 2017 @ 6:21pm CDT
Posted by Jason5billion on May 10th, 2017 @ 6:21pm CDT
I know what the other Transformer I forgot to ask about was, and that's Powerglide. I'd use that link Burn gave me; but every time I go to put in a name, it takes the keyboard away from me.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880819)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 6:27pm CDT
Powerglide's got an update too! He was done during Combiner Wars last year, so again you might need to go through the secondary market if you're thinking of picking him up. He's pretty decent, and again is probably the most faithful update to Powerglide's G1 look, but he's not quite my favorite figure to be honest (best Powerglide toy, but not best Transformers toy if that makes sense). If you have a particular attachment to the character though, he'd probably be pretty worth-it if you can get him for about retail price or below (around $10US or so).
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 6:27pm CDT
Jason5billion wrote:I know what the other Transformer I forgot to ask about was, and that's Powerglide. I'd use that link Burn gave me; but every time I go to put in a name, it takes the keyboard away from me.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Powerglide's got an update too! He was done during Combiner Wars last year, so again you might need to go through the secondary market if you're thinking of picking him up. He's pretty decent, and again is probably the most faithful update to Powerglide's G1 look, but he's not quite my favorite figure to be honest (best Powerglide toy, but not best Transformers toy if that makes sense). If you have a particular attachment to the character though, he'd probably be pretty worth-it if you can get him for about retail price or below (around $10US or so).
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880827)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2017 @ 6:51pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2017 @ 6:51pm CDT
Hasbro admitted at Toy Fair that Cosmos is a straight reissue unchanged from the previous release (save for the lack of Payload).Terrsolpix wrote:It looks like Cosmos is a slightly darker shade of green, but is there any other change? Scrounge had one, and did that carry over or is there some new Titan-tooling?
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880829)
Posted by YoungPrime on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:16pm CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:16pm CDT
Kinda annoyed with the re-releasing Cosmos. Was he really that hard to find 2 years ago???
H3ll I saw more people complaining about not having that Chromia and Arcee set than Cosmos.
What other Legends worthy figures are Hasbro dragging their feet on these days besides the rest of those remaining Cassettes plus Barrage and Ransack remolds from Kickback and Bombshell?
H3ll I saw more people complaining about not having that Chromia and Arcee set than Cosmos.
What other Legends worthy figures are Hasbro dragging their feet on these days besides the rest of those remaining Cassettes plus Barrage and Ransack remolds from Kickback and Bombshell?
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880832)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:27pm CDT
Quick clarification. Thrilling 30 Legends Cliffjumper was a straight up repaint of the preceding Bumblebee release of the mold. No new head or any other tooling was found on Cliffjumper, sadly. If he had at least that, I'd be satisfied, but as it is, I can fully support other fans' demand for a proper Legends class Cliffjumper. Make it happen, Hasbro!
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:27pm CDT
Qwan wrote:As for Cliffjumper, the most recent update to him was a retool of the Thrilling 30 Bumblebee mold, and that was about 3 years ago.
Quick clarification. Thrilling 30 Legends Cliffjumper was a straight up repaint of the preceding Bumblebee release of the mold. No new head or any other tooling was found on Cliffjumper, sadly. If he had at least that, I'd be satisfied, but as it is, I can fully support other fans' demand for a proper Legends class Cliffjumper. Make it happen, Hasbro!
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880833)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:29pm CDT
Beachcomber, off the top of my head. I'd really like a good figure of him (and IIRC, there was a rumor of an upcoming Legends Beachcomber, so if true I'd be very happy). Also, maybe a more accurate - i.e. tank-barrel-on-the-chest - Legends Warpath would be nice if we're trying to complete all the Minibots in Legends scale, though his Deluxe figure is still fantastic from what I understand.
Ah, whoops! Heh, I guess that's what happens when I don't own the toy and don't do my research. I'll probably edit my previous post just for clarification there, but thanks for pointing that out!
(And yeah, now that I know that T30 Cliff isn't retooled at all, I'm also much more inclined to want a properly-retooled(at the least) update. Wouldn't it be nice to see a TR-based Cliffjumper with proper head and angular feets? Oh man, now I want another version of that mold...)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:29pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Kinda annoyed with the re-releasing Cosmos. Was he really that hard to find 2 years ago???
H3ll I saw more people complaining about not have that Chromia and Arcee set than Cosmos.
What other Legends worthy figures are Hasbro dragging their feet on these days besides the rest of those remaining Cassettes plus Barrage and Ransack remolds from Kickback and Bombshell?
Beachcomber, off the top of my head. I'd really like a good figure of him (and IIRC, there was a rumor of an upcoming Legends Beachcomber, so if true I'd be very happy). Also, maybe a more accurate - i.e. tank-barrel-on-the-chest - Legends Warpath would be nice if we're trying to complete all the Minibots in Legends scale, though his Deluxe figure is still fantastic from what I understand.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Qwan wrote:As for Cliffjumper, the most recent update to him was a retool of the Thrilling 30 Bumblebee mold, and that was about 3 years ago.
Quick clarification. Thrilling 30 Legends Cliffjumper was a straight up repaint of the preceding Bumblebee release of the mold. No new head or any other tooling was found on Cliffjumper, sadly. If he had at least that, I'd be satisfied, but as it is, I can fully support other fans' demand for a proper Legends class Cliffjumper. Make it happen, Hasbro!
Ah, whoops! Heh, I guess that's what happens when I don't own the toy and don't do my research. I'll probably edit my previous post just for clarification there, but thanks for pointing that out!
(And yeah, now that I know that T30 Cliff isn't retooled at all, I'm also much more inclined to want a properly-retooled(at the least) update. Wouldn't it be nice to see a TR-based Cliffjumper with proper head and angular feets? Oh man, now I want another version of that mold...)
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880834)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:37pm CDT
I can tell you he never made it to the shelves around here.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:37pm CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Kinda annoyed with the re-releasing Cosmos. Was he really that hard to find 2 years ago???
I can tell you he never made it to the shelves around here.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880835)
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:45pm CDT
Nor here, but then again I'm pretty sure literally almost none of the Thrilling 30 line ever showed up around where I am. The only ones I remember seeing were Metroplex locally, Platinum Bruticus vs. Grimlock in a Sydney Toys R Us, and Platinum Ultra Magnus just... sitting around at a Target or something in like Ballina(?).
So yeah, I'm happy to be seeing a re-released Cosmos in TR! ...Even if he's the same price as the previous release was, with notably less value for money. Ah well.
Posted by Qwan on May 10th, 2017 @ 7:45pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Kinda annoyed with the re-releasing Cosmos. Was he really that hard to find 2 years ago???
I can tell you he never made it to the shelves around here.
Nor here, but then again I'm pretty sure literally almost none of the Thrilling 30 line ever showed up around where I am. The only ones I remember seeing were Metroplex locally, Platinum Bruticus vs. Grimlock in a Sydney Toys R Us, and Platinum Ultra Magnus just... sitting around at a Target or something in like Ballina(?).
So yeah, I'm happy to be seeing a re-released Cosmos in TR! ...Even if he's the same price as the previous release was, with notably less value for money. Ah well.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880874)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on May 10th, 2017 @ 11:58pm CDT
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on May 10th, 2017 @ 11:58pm CDT
How To Go Broke in One Week: with your host, DecepticonFinishline.
Lincoln, NE strikes again...
Sorry about the photo quality. The stuff from Monday was taken with my work camera, but normally, I only have my flip phone on me.
Lincoln, NE strikes again...
Sorry about the photo quality. The stuff from Monday was taken with my work camera, but normally, I only have my flip phone on me.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880890)
Posted by Kurona on May 11th, 2017 @ 5:20am CDT
Posted by Kurona on May 11th, 2017 @ 5:20am CDT
By the way, of everyone that's found them; were Octane and Blitzwing lower than the originally reported $29? Even if you're not buying them check the price, that could be news.
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880891)
Posted by Jason5billion on May 11th, 2017 @ 5:55am CDT
Posted by Jason5billion on May 11th, 2017 @ 5:55am CDT
If they're Voyager class Transformers, they're bound to be cheaper if you can find them at Walmart because Walmart only charges about $25 for Voyager class Transformers.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880896)
Posted by nycPrime on May 11th, 2017 @ 6:26am CDT
If you're patient, you can usually get it for cheaper as they almost inevitably go on sale. For example, HTS sells voyagers for MSRP, but you can get 20% off for signing up for emails. And TRU had a BOGO sale last week. The problem (besides waiting) is that popular figures may be sold out. Alas, that's the struggle. #firstworldproblems
Posted by nycPrime on May 11th, 2017 @ 6:26am CDT
Jason5billion wrote:If they're Voyager class Transformers, they're bound to be cheaper if you can find them at Walmart because Walmart only charges about $25 for Voyager class Transformers.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan
If you're patient, you can usually get it for cheaper as they almost inevitably go on sale. For example, HTS sells voyagers for MSRP, but you can get 20% off for signing up for emails. And TRU had a BOGO sale last week. The problem (besides waiting) is that popular figures may be sold out. Alas, that's the struggle. #firstworldproblems
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880903)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on May 11th, 2017 @ 7:03am CDT
$24.99
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on May 11th, 2017 @ 7:03am CDT
Kurona wrote:By the way, of everyone that's found them; were Octane and Blitzwing lower than the originally reported $29? Even if you're not buying them check the price, that could be news.
$24.99
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880904)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on May 11th, 2017 @ 7:04am CDT
it just depends on the area.
i saw a place that had voyagers for $20
$24.99 and $26.99
the $20 was in a tourist area and the others are in normal towns
Posted by Bumblebee21 on May 11th, 2017 @ 7:04am CDT
Kurona wrote:By the way, of everyone that's found them; were Octane and Blitzwing lower than the originally reported $29? Even if you're not buying them check the price, that could be news.
it just depends on the area.
i saw a place that had voyagers for $20
$24.99 and $26.99
the $20 was in a tourist area and the others are in normal towns
Re: Concept Art for Titans Return Twinferno (1880914)
Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2017 @ 8:49am CDT
It really depends on the area. For some reason, Target prices are not centralized, and neither are TRU price sin the US. They are in canada. Not sure if Walmart has centralized pricing in the US.
Not really news since its not a sure thing and cant be applied everywhere, its just all dependent on where you are.
Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2017 @ 8:49am CDT
Kurona wrote:By the way, of everyone that's found them; were Octane and Blitzwing lower than the originally reported $29? Even if you're not buying them check the price, that could be news.
It really depends on the area. For some reason, Target prices are not centralized, and neither are TRU price sin the US. They are in canada. Not sure if Walmart has centralized pricing in the US.
Not really news since its not a sure thing and cant be applied everywhere, its just all dependent on where you are.
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