Details on Upcoming Transformers Legacy Crankcase

An update of the one Triggercon who didn't become a part of Thunder Mayhem?! Yes, please!

Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

The last time we got a Crankcase update it was a really good attempt in the Allspark Power Bay movie sub-line of all places.

Overcracker wrote:Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

The last time we got a Crankcase update it was a really good attempt in the Allspark Power Bay movie sub-line of all places.

To be fair, the Cybertron redecoes in that line were originally intended to be Universe-branded but Mall-Wart wanted them in the movie packaging instead.

But yes, that was a decent effort. Red Alert has a similar backpack, and his Cyber Key cannons mean that Crankcase's original gimmick is preserved, so it worked out very well!

I will be interested to see this Crankcase, although I'm surprised he got in ahead of Needlenose or Sureshot.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Oh huh, he won't be a retool of Skids? I hope I'm not reading this wrong heheh, but that's honestly good that Crankcase will be getting proper love instead of being a sloppy second head swap.

Overcracker wrote:Interesting... retool of Skids? Or something else entirely?

Leakers said Crankcase would be a new mold back in September.

Considering Hasbro already seems to be taking Override-from-Hot-Rod from 3rd-party stuff, I'm hoping this guy leads to a new Ironfist in addition to looking good in his own right.

Ah, right, forgot about the leaks saying that. Personally I'd much rather prefer a new mold for Ironfist if HasTak loves us that much...an Ironfist from Crankcase wouldn't be bad as long as they made it look more like a Humvee (as much as genericism allows, of course )

SpaceEagle wrote:Ah, right, forgot about the leaks saying that. Personally I'd much rather prefer a new mold for Ironfist if HasTak loves us that much...an Ironfist from Crankcase wouldn't be bad as long as they made it look more like a Humvee (as much as genericism allows, of course )

Oh I would prefer a new mold as well, I'm just attempting to keep my hopes realistic and would gladly take Ironfist being a retool if the alternative is no Ironfist. They already turned Spinister into Rotorstorm and people were speculating the currently unspecified Bulkhead reuse in the Wreckers exclusives could be Pyro, I feel like this would be in line with those.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Idiotically so, considering the different transformation of that 3P Hot Rod.

Your irrational hatred of the figure no one has seen yet has been well-documented by this point, yes.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Considering Crankcase doesn't have a hood chest, Hound or JP93 would be better bases for Ironfist.

Everyone who I've heard got the Jurassic Park set said that JP93 sucked, so I would hope that mold never be reused (plus it would be too big for Ironfist). As for Hound, the bot mode would match better, but the alt mode would be off. I feel like a fake/implied hood chest would be easier to implement than an alt mode reshell, since I'm assuming Ironfist would happen as a Selects or similar exclusive (especially given, again, Rotorstorm). Plus, we don't yet know if Crankcase has the backpack gun gimmick yet, but if he does, that would serve as a closer approximation to what Ironfist has than anything the Hound mold comes with.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Idiotically so, considering the different transformation of that 3P Hot Rod.

Your irrational hatred of the figure no one has seen yet has been well-documented by this point, yes.

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Unless there's an extreme degree of alternate tooling baked into the mold, there is no way that SS86 Hot Rod can become anything more than a sloppy second head swap (to borrow your term) Override. The transformation design is too different. The build of the arms and legs is too different.
The 3P thing worked because in modelling Hot Rod's IDW design the look and transformation scheme wound up being close to Override's (curvy, feet at the front, etc). That is not the case with SS86 Hot Rod. SS86 Hot Rod's design bends over backwards and cheats with a faux-parts chest (that there is zero room to swap with a convincing imitation of Override's cockpit chest) to get a hyper screen-accurate Hot Rod in both robot and vehicle modes, and is thus inherently specialized to that. He could be retooled into an okay Hot Shot (because Cybertron Hot Shot was himself a heavy homage to Hot Rod, to the point of having a stylized representation of Hot Rod's hood chest in robot mode), but Override? I don't see how that's happening in any sort of satisfactory way. An angularized Override as a heavy retool of SIEGE Springer seems more feasible than pulling off a good one from SS86 Hot Rod (although only so much of an improvement).
And it bugs me that they're branding the line "Velocitron" but apparently phoning in Override.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Considering Crankcase doesn't have a hood chest, Hound or JP93 would be better bases for Ironfist.

Everyone who I've heard got the Jurassic Park set said that JP93 sucked, so I would hope that mold never be reused (plus it would be too big for Ironfist).

Considering that mold would need to be reshelled at asbolute minimum to be repurposed at all anyway, hopefully it would come with better arms if it did. And why would it be too big?

Nemesis Primal wrote:As for Hound, the bot mode would match better, but the alt mode would be off. I feel like a fake/implied hood chest would be easier to implement than an alt mode reshell, since I'm assuming Ironfist would happen as a Selects or similar exclusive (especially given, again, Rotorstorm).

I dunno, SIEGE Hound's silhouette seems closer to a Humvee than Crankcase's Land Cruiser-esque silhouette (assuming his new toy retains that).

Nemesis Primal wrote:Plus, we don't yet know if Crankcase has the backpack gun gimmick yet, but if he does, that would serve as a closer approximation to what Ironfist has than anything the Hound mold comes with.

How so? What Ironfist had was a big turret that became a stand-supported gun, so neither is super-close there IMO.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Considering Crankcase doesn't have a hood chest, Hound or JP93 would be better bases for Ironfist.

Everyone who I've heard got the Jurassic Park set said that JP93 sucked, so I would hope that mold never be reused (plus it would be too big for Ironfist). As for Hound, the bot mode would match better, but the alt mode would be off. I feel like a fake/implied hood chest would be easier to implement than an alt mode reshell, since I'm assuming Ironfist would happen as a Selects or similar exclusive (especially given, again, Rotorstorm). Plus, we don't yet know if Crankcase has the backpack gun gimmick yet, but if he does, that would serve as a closer approximation to what Ironfist has than anything the Hound mold comes with.

Yep, I know I really don't like it. And it's impossible for Hasbro to reuse it for anything else since the mold was made as a movie license making it completely off limits to use as anything other than a JP figure. Legally a regular figure can be made into a licensed figure, but you can't go the other way around. They could recreate the transformation for another figure, but it would have to be completely new parts (and maybe not be half assed with a bunch of shortcuts and clear plastic hinges).

Emerje

Cybertron Override was a horrible, horrible toy. I sold it without regrets.

About HIS bizarre gender-swapping (Thank you, American dub for forcing females quotas) there could be TWO versions of Override. A male one as big and bulky racecar and his own original mold. And a female one who could be a heavily modded SS86 Blurr.

SpaceEagle wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Cybertron Override was a horrible, horrible toy. I sold it without regrets.

About HIS bizarre gender-swapping (Thank you, American dub for forcing females quotas) there could be TWO versions of Override. A male one as big and bulky racecar and his own original mold. And a female one who could be a heavily modded SS86 Blurr.

I mean, they're robots - who the hell cares about their gender anyway?

Because they made fembots a thing. Especially for those who looks feminine.
So we care about their genders because they ARE gendered.
The Transformers are no Daleks nor Cybermen.

SpaceEagle wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Cybertron Override was a horrible, horrible toy. I sold it without regrets.

About HIS bizarre gender-swapping (Thank you, American dub for forcing females quotas) there could be TWO versions of Override. A male one as big and bulky racecar and his own original mold. And a female one who could be a heavily modded SS86 Blurr.

I mean, they're robots - who the hell cares about their gender anyway?

Because they made fembots a thing. Especially for those who looks feminine.
So we care about their genders because they ARE gendered.
The Transformers are no Daleks nor Cybermen.

I was speaking metaphorically, I think we're all well aware about how awkwardly fembots were introduced in the cartoon

If you mean in the G1 show, sure, it was awkward as heck. As if the producers were... shy... to introduce fembots. It's even more apparent when the planned G1 Arcee toy never went pass the prototype stage.

Then in Cybertron, there was that ONE fembot, Thunderblast. But the Americans felt there were not enough females so they dubbed in some more by gender-swapping characters that were male in the Japanese show. That was quite forced.

One thing that I should have found cringe is Skywarp's gender-swap in Cyberverse. But it worked perfectly because those seekers were almost at a 50/50 female and male ratio and it felt natural. Also, that big burly and idiotic fembot Clobber was quite refreshing.

Oh, might as well shill for this old video that I made: