EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick

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The images of Skids and Bulkhead showed them coming with clear plastic weapons and that turns out to be the line's gimmick, as confirmed by Hasbro just now on Facebook:

Introducing the all-NEW Transformers Generations toy line, Transformers: LEGACY! Celebrating an almost 40-year legacy of Transformers, universes collide as fan-favorite characters are brought together from across the multiverse, updated with Generations styling. You can harness the power of Energon, with all-new Energon-infused weapon accessories that come with figures across the line.

While we had good lists of what this line entailed, including the wave distribution, we now have the EAN codes to go with them.

Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Optimus Prime 5010993974924
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Shockwave 5010993977024
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core G2 Megatron 5010993977055
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Hotrod 5010993934270
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Iguanus 5010993934263
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Skywarp 5010993934249
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Energon Monster 5010994122942
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Soundwave (Repack) 5010994122799
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Wild Rider 5010993971992
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Elita 1 5010993972050
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Knockout Prime 5010993972005
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Tarantulas 5010993972012
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Arcee 5010993974900
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Dragstrip 5010993974917
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Kickback 5010993974849
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Skids 5010993974931
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Energon Monster 5010994120399
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Pointblank 5010994108526
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Crankcase 5010994108595
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Deadend 5010994120405
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Jhiaxus 5010993941117
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager S Soundwave (Repack) 5010993941148
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Blaster 5010993941100
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Bulkhead 5010993942107
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Armada Starscr 5010994110291
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Inferno 5010994110307
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Leader Blitzwing 5010993934294
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Leader Galvatron (repack) 5010993941124
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Leader Laser Optimus Prime 5010993934300
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Leader Dragon Megs 5010994114978
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Motormaster 5010994111366
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Metroplex 5010994112578
Transformers Generation Selects Titan Black Zarak 5010993931989

Transformers News: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimick

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Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118945)
Posted by jtanimator on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:30pm CDT

Oh man. it's been a minute since I felt like we were mixing up the pot. I'm feeling....actual excitement. I love what they're doing by mixing different TF continuities to all feel unified. I may be in the minority with this, but I was ready to entirely skip out on the Prime figures from the Legacy line, since they have no spot on my shelves and match absolutely nothing I own. But this is truly genius. Taking legendary characters and making them match the WFC style. These will be mine, and virtually every other character they style mash like this. Bravo Hasbro.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118946)
Posted by sol magnus on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:31pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro

New pics of Skids and... Bulkhead! What have they done to you?!

Two things -

I can see the Skids upgrade kits in my head right now.

I see why Prime and Bulkhead are retools. Him being in line with Generations will make me actually buy the Bulkhead "Prime" accuracy not withstanding.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118947)
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:34pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I have no strong opinions either way as I wasn't planning on getting any of these, probably will skip most of Legacy anyway... I just wonder how many messages John Warden is getting asking him to come back to Transformers

These were probably designed by Warden given the design time....

I think this is the first batch of Generations toys we are seeing that do not have Warden's involvement.

A shame as at least we could have blamed burnout as to why these figures looked the way they did.

The clear Energon weapon gimmick pleases me though, wonder I you can combine them like the ones in the Energon line, like how it was possible to give Energon Starscream a 'Cloud' sized sword.

There seem to be at least 3 attachment points on Skid's Energon weapon so yeah, I think you can.
Though it would probably look something more like this (top right):

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118948)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:40pm CDT

Flashwave wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Oh, so that's their take on Bulkhead? Uh. Nice idea, but I'll pass.

I remember people speculating that JP93 was based on a potential Skids. Looks like that's out the window.

Was the older Gen Skids too small in vehicle mode? That's the only thing that makes me kinda want a new one. This one looks fine. Like Skids. But also doesn't blow me away or anything.

Gen Skids had wierd clown shoe feet eith no heel and could be backheavy in some poses due to the over the shoulder cannons the V mode was fine and the toy was a lot of fun to play with. I also really liked thr Crosscut and Rally Car redecos it got. Just not the huge but also somehow useless feet

Obviously I'm just thinking about myself and what I'm looking to buy and the pros/cons for me only.

Skids is leaning on someone else right now. But that's alright. The feet are a problem on him, but it's the vehicle mode scale that I'm concerned with. The new figure doesn't wow me, so I don't need to get it. Nothing particularly wrong with it; I just don't need it.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118949)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:42pm CDT

one thing I've been beginning to wonder, what if these new stunticons aren't the G1 ones? there have been 2 teams of stunticons, one in the animated continuity, and the other in the aligned universe. I mean, not that they were radically different (animated style not withstanding)

I mean, Menasor was by and large the WORST combiner wars combiner (unless you count that horrible liokaiser), which is saying something since a couple of his limbs were some of the best robots, so I wouldn't mind replacing them. guess we will know soon enough.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118950)
Posted by CyclonusG1 on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:43pm CDT

I can see why some are a little bit disappointed here, especially with Bulkhead. In a lime called Legacy, I was expecting to see celebrations of the variety of designs and characters that have existed in Transformers over the years, not G1 versions of those characters. G1 versions that largely probably exist just so Hasbro can reuse the figure again as a different character. I get the Bulkhead's design is a bit 1 and done but it signals a worrying sign for future figures in this line based on non-G1 characters. Skids looks alright but I really really wish Hasbro would do something about the constant gaps in limbs. If giving us an actual transformation to legs leaves us with huge gaps on the inside of legs, then I'd prefer it if they went back to the old classic thighs collapse down into lower legs method. It's not like either of these figures are actually bad just disappointing based on what fans were hoping to see.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118951)
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:52pm CDT

Is this all of next year's? If so, I'll only be spending, like, £200 next year.

This almost starts to ease the pain of Kingdom ending.

*sobs Beast Wars theme*

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118953)
Posted by Overcracker on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:04pm CDT

Interesting take on Bulkhead. More so because it seems to be calling back to Animated Bulkhead more than Prime Bulkhead.

Prime Bulkhead was an SUV. Animated Bulhead is the one that had the military truck type alt mode.

But I guess this was clearly designed for Beast Hunters Prime first and modified for Bulkhead as its second use after.

Skids is 100% G1 skids.

That said, think I'll pass on both of these.

I may pick up the Prime usage of the mold though.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118954)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:05pm CDT

Mistaken_Table wrote:Is this all of next year's? If so, I'll only be spending, like, £200 next year.

This almost starts to ease the pain of Kingdom ending.

*sobs Beast Wars theme*

I think the only stuff we don't know is Exclusives at this point but that's it for retail

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118956)
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:21pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
Mistaken_Table wrote:Is this all of next year's? If so, I'll only be spending, like, £200 next year.

This almost starts to ease the pain of Kingdom ending.

*sobs Beast Wars theme*

I think the only stuff we don't know is Exclusives at this point but that's it for retail

We know exclusives too except for 2 redcard exclusives

Deluxe:
Tra Gen velocitron Burnout x2
Tra Gen velocitron Road Rocket x2
Tra Gen velocitron Blurr x2
Tra Gen velocitron Clampdown x1
Tra Gen velocitron Cosmos x1

Voyager:
Tra Gen Velocitron Override x2
Tra Gen Velocitron Road Hauler x1

Leader:
Tra Gen Velocitron Black Convoy x2

Walgreens:
Tra Gen legacy Dlx Minerva x8

Target:
Tra Gen Dlx Red Card 1 x8
Tra Gen Dlx Red Card 2 x8

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118957)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:28pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Mistaken_Table wrote:Is this all of next year's? If so, I'll only be spending, like, £200 next year.

This almost starts to ease the pain of Kingdom ending.

*sobs Beast Wars theme*

I think the only stuff we don't know is Exclusives at this point but that's it for retail

We know exclusives too except for 2 redcard exclusives

Deluxe:
Tra Gen velocitron Burnout x2
Tra Gen velocitron Road Rocket x2
Tra Gen velocitron Blurr x2
Tra Gen velocitron Clampdown x1
Tra Gen velocitron Cosmos x1

Voyager:
Tra Gen Velocitron Override x2
Tra Gen Velocitron Road Hauler x1

Leader:
Tra Gen Velocitron Black Convoy x2

Walgreens:
Tra Gen legacy Dlx Minerva x8

Target:
Tra Gen Dlx Red Card 1 x8
Tra Gen Dlx Red Card 2 x8

That's certainly some of them, yes, but I highly doubt that's all of them, that's probably just all the ones we know so far. Amazon is conspicuously missing from that lineup, there's no guarantee Velocitron will be only one wave, and we've already heard additional rumors of stuff since this list went up that wasn't on it.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118958)
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:29pm CDT

Wondering if a strika repaint/retool of Bulkhead might be possible, beats machines needs some love -although I'm not sure it would be love.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118961)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:32pm CDT

blackeyedprime wrote:Wondering if a strika repaint/retool of Bulkhead might be possible, beats machines needs some love -although I'm not sure it would be love.

It would look just as much like Strika as it does Bulkhead, I guess.

Even though I'm not a fan, I wouldn't mind Thrust and Jetstorm. I like their designs.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118962)
Posted by Autobot N on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:33pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Mistaken_Table wrote:Is this all of next year's? If so, I'll only be spending, like, £200 next year.

This almost starts to ease the pain of Kingdom ending.

*sobs Beast Wars theme*

I think the only stuff we don't know is Exclusives at this point but that's it for retail

We know exclusives too except for 2 redcard exclusives

Deluxe:
Tra Gen velocitron Burnout x2
Tra Gen velocitron Road Rocket x2
Tra Gen velocitron Blurr x2
Tra Gen velocitron Clampdown x1
Tra Gen velocitron Cosmos x1

Voyager:
Tra Gen Velocitron Override x2
Tra Gen Velocitron Road Hauler x1

Leader:
Tra Gen Velocitron Black Convoy x2

Walgreens:
Tra Gen legacy Dlx Minerva x8

Target:
Tra Gen Dlx Red Card 1 x8
Tra Gen Dlx Red Card 2 x8

I'm pretty sure it was said that one of the Redcard ones was Bluestreak

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118964)
Posted by Flashwave on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:51pm CDT

Wait, where is everyone seeing a BeastOotimus Prime? I can see it from Bulkhead but I don’t see a listing. Just Laser Prime.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118966)
Posted by Autobot N on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:53pm CDT

Flashwave wrote:Wait, where is everyone seeing a BeastOotimus Prime? I can see it from Bulkhead but I don’t see a listing. Just Laser Prime.

There was a rumor a while back that Bulkhead is the way he is because he shares tooling with a Prime Optimus Prime.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118967)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:54pm CDT

Gauntlet101010 wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Wondering if a strika repaint/retool of Bulkhead might be possible, beats machines needs some love -although I'm not sure it would be love.

It would look just as much like Strika as it does Bulkhead, I guess.

I wouldn't think so, the Vehicon designs are too alien for any Earthen design to be used for them as retools.

Animated Bulkhead was a military six-wheeled vehicle, with the cab as a chest, so... I don't know :lol:

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118968)
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:57pm CDT

Nemesis Primal wrote: Amazon is conspicuously missing from that lineup, there's no guarantee Velocitron will be only one wave, and we've already heard additional rumors of stuff since this list went up that wasn't on it.

Ah right, Amazon, forgot that one. So yeah, as Zerowolf said, we don't know them all yet.

blackeyedprime wrote:Wondering if a strika repaint/retool of Bulkhead might be possible, beats machines needs some love -although I'm not sure it would be love.

Transforming beats got all the love they needed in AOE

Flashwave wrote:Wait, where is everyone seeing a BeastOotimus Prime? I can see it from Bulkhead but I don’t see a listing. Just Laser Prime.

As people have said above, there are other toys that have only been rumoured and we are missing info on some exclusives. For instance, anything from Amazon. Although I personally don't remember it being specifically Beast Hunters Optimus Prime, simply an Optimus Prime toy. We also have an Optimus Prime toy coming out in the Rise line based on a video game (also, just a rumour).

But in any case, it means the toy sharing its mold with Bulkhead will probably not be a mainline toy.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118971)
Posted by Brokebot on October 20th, 2021 @ 4:09pm CDT

I'm not very impressed with what I'm seeing. That Bulkhead gives me no reason to be hopeful for any of the Prime bots, but I might pick up the Stunticons if they combine into a decent Menasor.

Once again, it looks like Hasbro has decided to save me some money by putting out another line I don't care for.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118975)
Posted by LE0KING on October 20th, 2021 @ 4:54pm CDT

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Bulkhead has to be a pretool for a rescue bots salvage.

s-l400.jpg

Come on Generations Rescue Bots!

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118976)
Posted by DeathReviews on October 20th, 2021 @ 4:58pm CDT

... I think I'll keep my TFA Leader Bulkhead, thanks.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118977)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 20th, 2021 @ 5:01pm CDT

DeathReviews wrote:... I think I'll keep my TFA Leader Bulkhead, thanks.

If you conveniently forget the fact that it's too small, I think the voyager is superior.

But the true king of the hill for any Bulkheads remain the stellar Prime First Edition.

This Legacy Bulkhead feel WRONG on so many levels. The round head just don't fit on that ridiculous totally not transformed at all torso. Energon Fatimus Prime made more efforts.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118978)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on October 20th, 2021 @ 5:31pm CDT

Autobot N wrote:
Flashwave wrote:Wait, where is everyone seeing a BeastOotimus Prime? I can see it from Bulkhead but I don’t see a listing. Just Laser Prime.
There was a rumor a while back that Bulkhead is the way he is because he shares tooling with a Prime Optimus Prime.

Makes sense, Bulkhead's tooling just screams Optimus repaint incoming

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118979)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 20th, 2021 @ 5:42pm CDT

grimdragon2001 wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Flashwave wrote:Wait, where is everyone seeing a BeastOotimus Prime? I can see it from Bulkhead but I don’t see a listing. Just Laser Prime.
There was a rumor a while back that Bulkhead is the way he is because he shares tooling with a Prime Optimus Prime.

Makes sense, Bulkhead's tooling just screams Optimus repaint incoming

Correction. Makes NO sense whatsoever. Prime Optimus is a cartoony Bayverse Optimus. It's his iconic look. Beast Hunters Optimus on the other hand, would be quite feasible because the truck cab remain basically untransformed in bot mode.

Another possibility is a surprise Energon Optimus.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118980)
Posted by StaceyK93 on October 20th, 2021 @ 5:48pm CDT

Just commenting for updates

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118981)
Posted by Tuned Agent on October 20th, 2021 @ 5:55pm CDT

I'm a staunch supporter of giving characters faithful updates, but honestly... I'm fine with this Bulkhead. Unlike some other characters (like Knockout, or even Skids), Bulkhead already has a number of good, accurate toys, so I'm fine with some creativity this time around. Goodness knows this brand could use some creativity. As for the figure itself, it's ok. His vehicle mode looks pretty good, if a bit stubby. His headsculpt is great. The biggest issue for me is that his proportions aren't very traditionally Bulkhead-esque, which kinda makes him feel a lot less unique.

As for Skids, he looks mediocre, I guess. He just looks kinda... flimsy. I'm not sure how to describe it. Maybe I'd feel different about in person, but right now it just looks meh. I just hope I can snag a Generations Skids once people start dumping them on ebay.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118982)
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on October 20th, 2021 @ 6:18pm CDT

You know, I look at Skids and I can't help but have the bitter thought that, as a fandom, we're getting what we deserve.

Once upon a time, CHUG figures were high-quality toys that, sure, maybe took some liberties with the characters' G1 appearance for the sake of what the designers felt would be more generally appealing. It felt like the designers were implicitly telling us stuff like, "Look, we know you want Kup, but kids won't know what that to do with his weird 80s alt-mode. How about we make him a modern pickup truck? Don't worry he'll be gorgeously painted and really evoke the character."

And clearly what we have said over time with our wallets is: "Listen, we just want these things to look G1 accurate, and we'll forgive any amount of cost-cutting BS as long as you give us that."

So here we have this Skids. He's definitely, undeniably G1 accurate.

Also he looks like butts, and there isn't an ounce more plastic on him than was absolutely necessary.

Obviously the trend of hollowing out figures has been going on for a while now, but as I gaze into those empty legs and empty thighs and that bare suggestion of a torso, I can't help but feel like we've hit some kind of new low here. Especially for what's supposed to be the reveal that hypes us up for the new line. I suppose it's not that much worse in terms of hollowness than the WFC Datsun design, especially the Siege version, and like those toys, it looks like Skids will have a lot of paint apps to compensate. But idk. The combination of rampant hollowness and "accurate but ugly" is really striking me here. This thing looks cheap in a way that the WFC figures rarely did.

These days I feel like what the designers are saying is, "This is what you nerds want, right? Well here ya go. No accounting for taste."

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118984)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 20th, 2021 @ 7:10pm CDT

I got nothing negative and Skids seems more impressive than the so called Thrilling 30 release...I will probably get both and give them a home...'nuff said! :VEHI:

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118988)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 20th, 2021 @ 7:19pm CDT

Wow, that is a ridiculously bad reveal.

Skids is the easiest to discuss. The legs look really bad on him, he just doesn't look any good. My T30 will remain my Skids, which also helps because that is the version of Skids I most like.

And then there is Bulkhead. Wow, what the actual hell were they thinking? That is TERRIBLE. They took my lovable round boy, given that look by 3 cartoons and some comics, and made him a militarized Grapple with a boxy body and thin and long limbs. That head is the only Bulkheady thing about him.

That's just bad. Like, really bad.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118993)
Posted by JomasterII on October 20th, 2021 @ 7:29pm CDT

Skids looks great, and he'll probably hold a pose--scratch that, he'll probably BE ABLE TO STAND compared to the dire Thrilling 30s mould. Can't give any less of a damn about Bulkhead though.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118994)
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on October 20th, 2021 @ 7:29pm CDT

Skids looks cheap as hell. Almost Cyberverse level. Hasbro has gone completely cheap & greedy. Plastic prices might be up but there is no way in hell they are up that much. Other companies are still kicking ass. Hasbro seems to be aiming for the totally insane prices they charge for the new Diaclone line, Chogokin, Macross & 3rd party. While getting worse & worse as far as quality goes.

I'm almost done with Transformers. I can't support this anymore. It's only going to keep getting worse. Greed ruins everything & once it gets out of control there is no stopping it. :roll:

Unfortunately, most of you won't say it or admit it. You'll just keep making excuses & justifications & buying any overpriced garbage they toss your way.

And then the reviewers like PrimevsPrime will gush & rave over every release no matter how crappy it is. Most of them won't dare say anything negative about anything.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2118999)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 20th, 2021 @ 7:39pm CDT

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Skids looks cheap as hell. Almost Cyberverse level. Hasbro has gone completely cheap & greedy. Plastic prices might be up but there is no way in hell they are up that much. Other companies are still kicking ass. Hasbro seems to be aiming for the totally insane prices they charge for the new Diaclone line, Chogokin, Macross & 3rd party. While getting worse & worse as far as quality goes.

I'm almost done with Transformers. I can't support this anymore. It's only going to keep getting worse. Greed ruins everything & once it gets out of control there is no stopping it.

Unfortunately, most of you won't say it or admit it. You'll just keep making excuses & justifications & buying any overpriced garbage they toss your way. And then the reviewers like PrimevsPrime will gush & rave over every release no matter how crappy it is. Most of them won't dare say anything negative about anything.

If you're not happy with the toys, you should totally stop buying them. I'm very happy with them, and you're welcome to shake your head at me and say I'm lying to myself, but I don't derive my happiness from the approval of randos.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2119001)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 20th, 2021 @ 7:43pm CDT

TheForgottenTaxi wrote:You know, I look at Skids and I can't help but have the bitter thought that, as a fandom, we're getting what we deserve.

Once upon a time, CHUG figures were high-quality toys that, sure, maybe took some liberties with the characters' G1 appearance for the sake of what the designers felt would be more generally appealing. It felt like the designers were implicitly telling us stuff like, "Look, we know you want Kup, but kids won't know what that to do with his weird 80s alt-mode. How about we make him a modern pickup truck? Don't worry he'll be gorgeously painted and really evoke the character."

And clearly what we have said over time with our wallets is: "Listen, we just want these things to look G1 accurate, and we'll forgive any amount of cost-cutting BS as long as you give us that."

So here we have this Skids. He's definitely, undeniably G1 accurate.

Also he looks like butts, and there isn't an ounce more plastic on him than was absolutely necessary.

Obviously the trend of hollowing out figures has been going on for a while now, but as I gaze into those empty legs and empty thighs and that bare suggestion of a torso, I can't help but feel like we've hit some kind of new low here. Especially for what's supposed to be the reveal that hypes us up for the new line. I suppose it's not that much worse in terms of hollowness than the WFC Datsun design, especially the Siege version, and like those toys, it looks like Skids will have a lot of paint apps to compensate. But idk. The combination of rampant hollowness and "accurate but ugly" is really striking me here. This thing looks cheap in a way that the WFC figures rarely did.

These days I feel like what the designers are saying is, "This is what you nerds want, right? Well here ya go. No accounting for taste."

G1 Skids was one of the first Transformers I ever got, and also one of the first to break. I've wanted a G1 Skids ever since, and though I love the IDW Skids character, I was never interested in the T30 version. This is what I've wanted, blocky legs and spacey chest and all. So I can't really disagree with your position, except to say that this *is* what I want and I don't feel any need to apologize for it. These are plastic toys made on a budget, I expect them to have hollow parts. For those that really care, Nonnef and others make gap fillers. For me, Skids is finally coming home.

Re: EAN Codes for the Transformers Legacy Line and Hasbro Confirms the Line's Gimmick (2119002)
Posted by -Crossfire- on October 20th, 2021 @ 7:52pm CDT

Someone said Skids looks "POTP-ish" in its design, and I kinda agree with that, but I also kinda love him already. About time Skids got some more love.

I'm not crazy about Bulkhead, and I get that people were expecting a new version of the Prime figure, but the front cab chest and vaguely troop carrier/SWAT feel actually remind me of Animated Bulkhead more than anything. If nothing else, I think he's a decent "G1-ing" of the character.

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Posted by Seibertron on October 20th, 2021 @ 8:17pm CDT

Immortal Starscream wrote:

Honestly I wish they had made the vehicle look more like the oshkosh there, would make him looks rounder. The issue for me is bulkheads shape. geewun-ified or not, Bulkhead has always been a big roundish boy with stumpy/stocky build. here he is a big box with long legs. literally reminds me of the time for Halloween where I cut a head hole and arm holes out of a carboard box and wrote robot on the front of it in black marker. It just feels wrong for Bulkhead. Again, sumo prime it kinda works, though still too square

I completely agree. The roundish look of that Osh Kosh truck seeems like it would be perfect for the look and shape of Bulkhead. Or maybe this was done because of licensing? Or maybe they're planning an Animated Wreck-Gar retool? Who knows! Just doesn't look like Bulkhead to me. Seems like a really odd choice.

Skids looks off as well. Doesn't look like he has pins for wheels either.

Both kind of look like a step backward from what we've been getting. I feel bad sounding like a debbie downer about this. Hopefully they both grow on me!

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Posted by JomasterII on October 20th, 2021 @ 8:26pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:Skids looks off as well. Doesn't look like he has pins for wheels either.

Pinned rear, clipped front. At least the clips at the front are doing the Hoist thing where they've put 5mm ports in as well.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2021 @ 8:26pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:Skids looks off as well. Doesn't look like he has pins for wheels either.

The back wheels are riveted, but the front "wheels" are of the rolling outer ring kind: the rivets in the shoulders are for articulation.

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Posted by Emerje on October 20th, 2021 @ 8:28pm CDT

Just me? I might get him, he looks like a fine figure even if it doesn't fit him so great. Not sure what version of Prime it'll be repurposed as, Prime Optimus is a long nose truck so it would be just as much or an even bigger departure than Bulkhead.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Those transparent plastic weapons look like a nod to Energon/Super Link to me. I wouldn’t be surprised if they interact with the leaked “Energon Monster” figures as the unifying gimmick of the line.

I'm wondering the same thing about the Energon Monster, can't be a coincidence that all of the figures come with energon weapons AND there's a couple monsters that are either made of energon or that eat energon. Maybe we're getting a transforming Kremzeek. :lol:

Anyone else find the peg holes on the wheels a little odd? What could their purpose be on a freely moving part?

RIP weapon effect parts.

Emerje

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Posted by o.supreme on October 20th, 2021 @ 8:38pm CDT

In terms of real world look, I've heard some fans say Legacy Bulkhead resembles this vehicle most M1078 LMTV Light Utility Truck

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Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 20th, 2021 @ 8:41pm CDT

Emerje wrote:Anyone else find the peg holes on the wheels a little odd? What could their purpose be on a freely moving part?

RIP weapon effect parts.

Emerje

I feel like their point is less "port on this moving part" and more of just "we want him to have ports on his legs like most of WFC did and this was the easiest way to do that with the wheels there".

Also why RIP weapon effects? Every gun in this reveal looks like it would still be compatible, it doesn't look like that's going anywhere, and all they would have to do is keep packing them in with figures that have the budget for them like SS86 Hot Rod and Scourge/Sweep.

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Posted by MeGrimlock78 on October 20th, 2021 @ 8:56pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Honestly, they both look like a pile of ass. So glad I didn't sell my Gen skids yet, man I would have regretted it.

Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode

I also hate the overall look of the robot mode but I can understand the appeal of having G1ified versions of characters from other eras but since I have my own Prime collection, this is not needed. I will say this is making me **** scared about Knockout.

As for Skids, ooof, not great. Reeks of cheap corner cutting. Like that rectangle behind his head. It's not even incorporated into the design, it's just there as a lazy bit. The G1 toy didn't have that. And usually Hasbro is able to hide unflattering gaps in their product shots, but I guess that's not a possible task here.

Won't be getting either of these.

Thank you for saying what I was thinking. Scrolling through and saw rave reviews on these two. Thought I was going crazy!

Flaming.

Piles.

Of crap.

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Posted by Overcracker on October 20th, 2021 @ 9:00pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
Just me? I might get him, he looks like a fine figure even if it doesn't fit him so great. Not sure what version of Prime it'll be repurposed as, Prime Optimus is a long nose truck so it would be just as much or an even bigger departure than Bulkhead.

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Emerje

Cough…cough….

Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime Gallery

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 20th, 2021 @ 9:23pm CDT

I like these figures but I know most Prime fans aren't going to be happy but think for a moment, how much better can Bulkhead get between the First Edition figure and even the mainline PRID release? Skids is Skids and I think it's kinda cool.

One more thing on Bulkhead, A slight retool of the vehicle mode can give us the APC from GI Joe, crossover line maybe?

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Posted by cruizerdave on October 20th, 2021 @ 9:27pm CDT

So basically we’re out of ideas, let’s do that thing we did 15 years ago. I see much silver and black spray paint in this line’s future.

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 20th, 2021 @ 9:35pm CDT

Overcracker wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Just me? I might get him, he looks like a fine figure even if it doesn't fit him so great. Not sure what version of Prime it'll be repurposed as, Prime Optimus is a long nose truck so it would be just as much or an even bigger departure than Bulkhead.

…
Emerje

Cough…cough….

Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime Gallery

Now if only Bulkhead's cab had been curved like that, it would look much better. And if Beast Hunters Prime is indeed coming from the mold, they wouldn't even have to remold the cab at all. Just paint it and put some useless crap on the front like that Prime has.

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Posted by Spider5800 on October 20th, 2021 @ 9:49pm CDT

Bleh. Nothing personal to anyone who likes these, but both Bulkhead and Skids look kind of terrible to me. And the energon weapons gimmick...meh.

Really hoping the remaining Beast Wars characters that are supposed to come out in this line look better than that.

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Posted by Tracytron54321 on October 20th, 2021 @ 10:16pm CDT

I can't say I'm really a fan of them. I'm not sure what it is about Skids' proportions, but something about them just doesn't feel right to me.
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As for Bulkhead I was really excited for him but I think I don't think I'm gonna pick him up. His legs are way too long and I'm not sure if maybe they were trying to have a more realistic version of TFA Bulkhead's altmode, but regardless it reminds me too much of AOE Hound personally.

If a third party company put out an upgrade kit for him to replace his head with a more AOE Hound-esk headsculpt and to give him a ton of guns than I'll probly get him, but otherwise I don't think I will.

And are those minicon posts on him? That's definitely a good sign for Unicron Trilogy fans, and it's a good sign that we're gonna get more than just G1, Beast Wars and Prime in this toyline.

As for the transparent weapons I'm gonna guess they're a part of some new gimmick for this toyline but I don't really care for it, at least it looks like this gimmick won't impact the figures at all, though I'd still prefer for the budget for them to just go into the actual figures or different accessories.

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Posted by Tracytron54321 on October 20th, 2021 @ 10:17pm CDT

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Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 20th, 2021 @ 10:31pm CDT

Tracytron54321 wrote:And are those minicon posts on him? That's definitely a good sign for Unicron Trilogy fans, and it's a good sign that we're gonna get more than just G1, Beast Wars and Prime in this toyline.

I don't think that's a minicon post, I think that's so that he can hold the cover as a shield.

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Posted by sol magnus on October 20th, 2021 @ 10:52pm CDT