Fifth Nominee Of Fan's Choice Finalists For Transformers Hall Of Fame - Dinobot

OLD CHOPPERFACE!

HighPrime wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Man I almost want to vote for Dinobot simply because he's not G1 and he'd symbolize what Beast Wars did for this hobby. I doubt many of you'd be here right now if it wasn't for the Beast Wars series bringing life back into this franchise.

Dinobot, Shockwave, or Soundwave? Hm.

Not me. It was stumbling upon RiD Optimus Prime completely by accident in a Wal-mart that brought me back. "When did they start making Transformers again?" was my first thought. Little did I know they had never really stopped making them.

I had caught Beast Wars a few times in the past, but eh... didn't care. Wasn't until many years later that I really appreciated it. Great series, and I'm glad Dinobot got a nomination. There's no way he's making it in this year, though, however hopeful any of us are.

That wasn't what I meant. I meant that everything that came after Beast Wars theoretically owes its existence to Beast Wars, Car Robots / RID included.

UltraPrimal wrote:YES! There is a god and his name is Dinobot!!!

Seibertron wrote:Man I almost want to vote for Dinobot simply because he's not G1 and he'd symbolize what Beast Wars did for this hobby. I doubt many of you'd be here right now if it wasn't for the Beast Wars series bringing life back into this franchise.

Dinobot, Shockwave, or Soundwave? Hm.

Dinobot! Vote Dinobot! Vote Beast Wars! Beast Wars saved the Transformers franchise just like how Dinobot saved humanity(Code of Hero), not to mention all the GeeWun fossils on board the Ark(Nemesis Part 2).



Optimus Primal: "Well fought, my friend. You saved the valley. You saved the lives of those who live here... and of those who are still to come."
Dinobot: "Then... there is nothing to regret."
Rattrap: "Like I said, you're just a blasted, slag-spouting saurian, but... it's nice to know where you stand."
Dinobot:"Upwind of you, for preference, vermin. ...Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest... is silence."


Optimus:"He lived a warrior... and died a hero. Let his spark join the Matrix, the greatest of Cybertron."


Optimus:"'In the Spark of an enemy, there will be salvation; and in the darkest hour, there will be a light.'"
Rattrap:"Yeah, from a very unexpected source – Ol' Chopperface's clone. Who'da thunk it?"
Optimus:"And let us never forget those other brave bots, whose sacrifice safeguarded past, present and future."

36 Minutes after I posted....Tsk Tsk. I was expecting sooner

If it had come back, it probably would never have been as big as it is now. Beast Wars was and is one of the best things to happen in TF, bar none.

And DInobot... one of the most complex and well-written characters in TF. Again, not just Beast Wars, but the franchise. Code of Hero is in the top... four moments of TF as well. His ultimate redemption... and ultimate sacrifice.

He's got my vote.

ALEXD4398 wrote:no one will agree but go fortress maximus, god ginrai and/or sixshot!

Too late for this year, but maybe next year.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:And DInobot... one of the most complex and well-written characters in TF. Again, not just Beast Wars, but the franchise. Code of Hero is in the top... four moments of TF as well. His ultimate redemption... and ultimate sacrifice.

I hate that episode... Too awesome and too sad (and part of the avalanche of killing the awesomest characters in BW - Tigerhawk, Tigatron, Airrazor, Lazorbeak, Scorponok, Tarantulas, Ravage, Inferno, Quickstrike, Depth Charge, and Rampage...)

Finally! someone worthy of the honor! Out of these five, Dinobot was and is the most developed, accomplished, and deepest character. He wasn't anyone's tool or put in to look cool, he was his own person with his own ambitions and beliefs.

While all five are considered memorable charatcers, the others are usually remebered for at least one of four things:

• Their voices
• Their altmodes
• Their toys
• Their gimmicks

Dinobot, on ther other hand, was much more than just a raptor with a cool voice. He was deep, torn between his own morality and his own ambitions. There were times where it was hard to tell whether he was good or bad, a hero or an anti-hero. He sometimes seemed like he wanted to slaughter anyone and anything around him. It seemed like he hated his comrades no matter whose side he was on.

But, underneath this cold, brutish attitude lay one thing that is rare to find in a good villain: a sense of honor. In spite of his generally negative appearance, his loyalty never wavered to those he was sided with. With the exception of the episode "Maximal, No More", but that was also part of his development and he learned from his mistake afterwards, accepting his errors and coping with them. Even if he didn't always see eye-to-eye with his allies, he remained firm in his word as their comrade. And to the very end, in his final, crownign momnet, he gave the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of humanity's future.

He lived as a warrior, a true soldier, a brother to his comrades. And died a hero, a savior, a legend to all. May his spark live on in the Matrix, the Allspark, the Well of All Sparks... the Greatest of Cybertron.

'Til All Are One!

UltraPrimal wrote:Dinobot! Vote Dinobot! Vote Beast Wars! Beast Wars saved the Transformers franchise just like how Dinobot saved humanity(Code of Hero), not to mention all the GeeWun fossils on board the Ark(Nemesis Part 2).



Optimus Primal: "Well fought, my friend. You saved the valley. You saved the lives of those who live here... and of those who are still to come."
Dinobot: "Then... there is nothing to regret."
Rattrap: "Like I said, you're just a blasted, slag-spouting saurian, but... it's nice to know where you stand."
Dinobot:"Upwind of you, for preference, vermin. ...Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest... is silence."


Optimus:"He lived a warrior... and died a hero. Let his spark join the Matrix, the greatest of Cybertron."


Optimus:"'In the Spark of an enemy, there will be salvation; and in the darkest hour, there will be a light.'"
Rattrap:"Yeah, from a very unexpected source – Ol' Chopperface's clone. Who'da thunk it?"
Optimus:"And let us never forget those other brave bots, whose sacrifice safeguarded past, present and future."

Boo.

In all honesty, Dinobot seems to be not only the best choice, but the only logical choice.

I mean, sure, all five are memorable characters, but the other four are mostly remembered for the wrong reasons and can seem a bit overrated. They each are usually remembered for at least one of four things:
1. Their voices
2. Their altmodes
3. Their toys
4. Their gimmicks

This Hall of Fame is not intended to honor particularly any of those four factors. It's to honor the character itself.

Soundwave falls into the category of all four. He's mostly remembered as the guy with the deep voice, the articulated toy, the tape player bot, or the guy with cassette tapes inside him. But, what about his personality? Well, he was a loyal follower of Megatron and... that's it. He was basically Megatron's Yes Man and an outright tool for his master's evil plans. Soundwave never did anything on his own, never acted on his own, never took his own stand in the Decepticons, never stated his own opinions and objectives. He was always, "As you command, Megatron" without question. But in all fairness, he did once say "No" to Galvatron, but that was the terrible "Carnage in C-Minor" episode where Soundwave was the (unnecessary) translator of those musical aliens. And as far as character development goes, he remained fully static all throughout the G1 cartoon. He never went through any trials or challenges that dealt with him having to cope with and overcome his personal flaws or anything deep like that. He was a lackey with a music gimmick in the beginning, and stayed the same till the end.

Grimlock was a little better of a choice, but not by much. Sure he had a little more personality, what with him being dumb and brutish and having some development episodes of his own, but he's still basically recalled as the shiny T-Rex with the dim-witted dialogue. His shining moments were far and few, and most of them were just to show him as "the bot who's toy all kids should buy", instead of fleshing out his character further. There were several missed opportunities that could have gone further with this guy. There were times where the Dinobots seemed like they would form their own splintered group away from the rest of the Autobots, only for them to kiss and make up by the episode's conclusion. Had this idea been taken a step further, it could have led to some very interesting arcs involving not just two factions at war, but three. Another opportunity was when Grimlock became smart. Now I get the nobility in sacrificing his super-intellect to grant it to Computron, but they could have had something interesting to twist the plot of the series better with Grimlock remaining a super genius for more than one episode. Sadly, this did not come about.

Jazz was another generic "famous name guy" choice. Sure, he had some personality, being the "cool guy" of the Autobots. But like Soundwave, that's it. We know nothing about him personally other than his likeness of Earth music and slang. He may have had a hip voice and a sweet altmode, but the voice and ride do not solely make the character. He was mostly used as another soldier who shot at the enemy, and had no development episodes of his own either. If anything, Jazz can referred to as something similar to "robot eye candy". Not in the sense of a sexual appeal, but in the sense of an "I'm awesome!" appeal. He was the cool guy. Why was he the cool guy? Dunno, he just was. We don't even know why he supposed to be cool. We don't even know why he is who he is. What's his story? What is it that makes him have the "cool guy" shtick? He's basically the "unknown soldier who spoke in slang".

Shockwave is another category four. Deep, charismatic voice. Space gun altmode. Highly accurate and fun toy. Gun mode & electronic gimmicks. But what about he himself? He was mostly portrayed as the Decepticons's house sitter. He stayed on Cybertron to watch things, but there was hardly anything for him to watch, what with the planet being almost uninhabitable. And he did this for four million years! Like Soundwave, he was also loyal to Megatron, and did little else in regards to being his own character. Though, on occasion, he would have to act on his own to protect the Decepticons's Cybertron HQ, but this was still out of loyalty to Megatron. I will admit that there's nothing wrong with loyalty, but it's not a good thing when you've got little else going for ya. And like both Soundwave and Jazz, he was also lacking in the character development department.

I'm even willing to say that I'd still choose Dinobot over these other four even if "Code of Hero" never existed. He's simply more than just a sword-wielding, toy dino with a nasty attitude-esque voice. He's his own fully-fleshed out and characterized person. Or at least, he was, until he met tragic, but heroic end.

Out of the list of nominees, there is only one choice...Dinobot. Not because Beast Wars introduced me to transformers in general, but because he is an amazing character. Also, t-rex do not beat raptors I really hope he gets the spot.