First Look at IDW Transformers: Till All Are One

Sigma Magnus wrote:Well, that kinda spoils how All Hail Optimus is going to turn out...

1984forever wrote:Starscream's secret police would be cool if actual Transformers were used. All of the secret police look like men in grey clunky suits of armor. IMO the artists are too lazy to design any unnamed character that looks like it could actually Transform.

Randomhero wrote:
I never believed Swindle was dead, I think Rattrap has him on life support somewhere but hey maybe he is and we'll get a new combaticon like how scoop has filled in for Scrapper. Long shot I know but you never know.

Dr Va'al wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:Well, that kinda spoils how All Hail Optimus is going to turn out...

Does it? How so?

1984forever wrote:

Deadput wrote:

1984forever wrote:Starscream's secret police would be cool if actual Transformers were used. All of the secret police look like men in grey clunky suits of armor. IMO the artists are too lazy to design any unnamed character that looks like it could actually Transform.

Edit: Got rid of the first bit I see their mention in the description my bad.
Your logic makes no sense (it never does) the badgeless are supposed to be you know secret and your not supposed to know who they are I'm pretty sure it's just armor anyways that you can't transform in.


And you think this is lazy but honestly how would you design faceless mooks better then them huh?

you're not supposed to know the secret police exist. It was never stated anywhere that we're not supposed to know who they are! And half the fandom can design secret police better than the blobs of lead IDW is trying to pass off as Transformers.

1984forever wrote: you're not supposed to know the secret police exist. It was never stated anywhere that we're not supposed to know who they are! And half the fandom can design secret police better than the blobs of lead IDW is trying to pass off as Transformers.

Shuttershock wrote:Plus literally the first issue they are introduced, Starscream explains that they are badgeless and faceless so they can "enforce the law" without fear of reprisals in their off hours. So this is probably 84ever talking out his aft again.

RevTibe wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Here's the first two Windblade volumes in a nutshell, "Starscream is bad, why? Because. Can you elaborate? No... He's just bad and he needs to be stopped." Sorry, I'm not a Starscream fanboy but he seriously has done nothing really awful to show he wants to build an empire like Windblade accuses him of he's had the Enigma for a long time now and hasn't used it to build one combiner. Personally I think Starscream has changed. He's still a D-bag but he's not the monster Windblade accuses him to be.

...Did we read the same comics, because in the first Windblade volume the big reveal was that Starscream wasn't the bad guy. Yes, most characters generally think he's up to no good (he is infamous, after all), but volume 1 ends with Windblade concluding that it's better to cooperate with him.

As for the empire-building accusation - Starscream is legendarily power-hungry. We've seen it throughout IDW, and volume 1 made a point of Windblade spending much of her time talking to 'bots familiar with that legacy of greed and treachery. While flawed, (story seemed far too compressed - I'd imagine this is related to it being announced as an ongoing then shifting to a miniseries) volume 2 handled the Starsceam / Windblade dynamic quite well - shifting from competitive to tensely cooperative as the situation changed.

(Also, on the note of Starscream and awfulness, remember when he sicced Menasor on Caminus? Added an angry 'con to Menasor to make it more unstable? Tore the place up, killed a lot of innocent natives? 'Scream's still a monster, just less public about it.)