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Postby Va'al » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:32 pm

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As IDW Publishing gears up for the release of the June comics solicitations, Comic Book Resources has shared the first look at the cover for the new ongoing series by Mairghread Scott and Sara Pitre-Durocher, as they continue to look at the works of Windblade and the Council of Worlds: starting this June, Till All Are One!

IDW Publishing is set to debut a new "Transformers" ongoing series this June, and CBR has the exclusive first details. "Transformers: Till All Are One" is scheduled for June, from the creative team of writer Mairghread Scott and artist Sara Pitre-Durocher.

"Till All Are One" looks to pick up story threads from the Scott-written "Transformers: Windblade," which wrapped last year with issue #7. The series stars Windblade and Starscream, and starts with an unsurprisingly fragile peace between Autobots and Decepticons. Scott and Pitre-Durocher previously collaborated on a "Transformers: Combiner Hunters" story released last year.


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Transformers: Till All Are One #1—SPOTLIGHT
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PEACE IN OUR TIME! STARSCREAM and WINDBLADE have given everything to bring together CYBERTRON’s Lost Colonies into a Council Of Worlds. But when the increasingly brutal tactics of STARSCREAM’s secret police increase tension among the former DECEPTICONS… how long can the Council maintain this fragile peace?
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Mairghread Scott (w) • Sara Pitre-Durocher (a) • Priscilla Tramontano (c)
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• As OPTIMUS PRIME conquers Earth and the Lost Light explores space, life on CYBERTRON heats up!
• Fan-favorite superstars Mairghread Scott (Windblade, Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy television show) and Sara Pitre-Durocher (Combiner Hunters, Transformers) reunite!
• WINDBLADE variant cover by Sara Pitre-Durocher!
• WINDBLADE variant cover by Alex Milne!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Sigma Magnus » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:54 pm

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Well, that kinda spoils how All Hail Optimus is going to turn out...and apparently Bruticus might still happen?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:05 pm

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Sigma Magnus wrote:Well, that kinda spoils how All Hail Optimus is going to turn out...


Does it? How so? :-?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:20 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby 1984forever » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:39 pm

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Starscream's secret police would be cool if actual Transformers were used. All of the secret police look like men in grey clunky suits of armor. IMO the artists are too lazy to design any unnamed character that looks like it could actually Transform.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Star_ling » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:43 pm

While Scott writes a decent Starscream I am decidedly not a fan of her writing, at all. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt but I wish Barber was at least co writing this series.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:13 pm

Star_ling wrote:While Scott writes a decent Starscream I am decidedly not a fan of her writing, at all. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt but I wish Barber was at least co writing this series.



Nor am I. Personally I am not a fan of her writing in the slightest. I wish this was a team up book with Barber and Roberts. Let John work out the plots and have James handle personalities. She's not a bad writer but she's not a good transformers writer. Here's the first two Windblade volumes in a nutshell, "Starscream is bad, why? Because. Can you elaborate? No... He's just bad and he needs to be stopped." Sorry, I'm not a Starscream fanboy but he seriously has done nothing really awful to show he wants to build an empire like Windblade accuses him of" he's had the Enigma for a long time now and hasn't used it to build one combiner. Personally I think Starscream has changed. He's still a D-bag but he's not the monster Windblade accuses him to be. I am waiting for him to do something awful but so far he hasn't othe than be jealous of Optimus Prime.

I never believed Swindle was dead, I think Rattrap has him on life support somewhere but hey maybe he is and we'll get a new combaticon like how scoop has filled in for Scrapper. Long shot I know but you never know.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:20 pm

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1984forever wrote:Starscream's secret police would be cool if actual Transformers were used. All of the secret police look like men in grey clunky suits of armor. IMO the artists are too lazy to design any unnamed character that looks like it could actually Transform.


Edit: Got rid of the first bit I see their mention in the description my bad.



Your logic makes no sense (it never does) the badgeless are supposed to be you know secret and your not supposed to know who they are I'm pretty sure it's just armor anyways that you can't transform in.


And you think this is lazy but honestly how would you design faceless mooks better then them huh?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:22 pm

Funny how it's Hasbro's Blast Off (plus faceplate) but Takara's Vortex (four rotors) with Hasbro's colors.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:22 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
I never believed Swindle was dead, I think Rattrap has him on life support somewhere but hey maybe he is and we'll get a new combaticon like how scoop has filled in for Scrapper. Long shot I know but you never know.



If that ever turns out to be the case how about Hardtop?

You know this guy the brother and repaint of Swindle in Transformers Cybertron

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:23 pm

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Shuttershock wrote:Funny how it's Hasbro's Blast Off (plus faceplate) but Takara's Vortex (four rotors) with Hasbro's colors.



Best of both worlds I guess?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Sigma Magnus » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:51 pm

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Sigma Magnus wrote:Well, that kinda spoils how All Hail Optimus is going to turn out...


Does it? How so? :-?

"Unsurprisingly fragile peace between Autobots and Decepticons"?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby 1984forever » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:51 pm

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Deadput wrote:
1984forever wrote:Starscream's secret police would be cool if actual Transformers were used. All of the secret police look like men in grey clunky suits of armor. IMO the artists are too lazy to design any unnamed character that looks like it could actually Transform.

Edit: Got rid of the first bit I see their mention in the description my bad.
Your logic makes no sense (it never does) the badgeless are supposed to be you know secret and your not supposed to know who they are I'm pretty sure it's just armor anyways that you can't transform in.


And you think this is lazy but honestly how would you design faceless mooks better then them huh?
you're not supposed to know the secret police exist. It was never stated anywhere that we're not supposed to know who they are! And half the fandom can design secret police better than the blobs of lead IDW is trying to pass off as Transformers.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:33 pm

1984forever wrote:
Deadput wrote:
1984forever wrote:Starscream's secret police would be cool if actual Transformers were used. All of the secret police look like men in grey clunky suits of armor. IMO the artists are too lazy to design any unnamed character that looks like it could actually Transform.

Edit: Got rid of the first bit I see their mention in the description my bad.
Your logic makes no sense (it never does) the badgeless are supposed to be you know secret and your not supposed to know who they are I'm pretty sure it's just armor anyways that you can't transform in.


And you think this is lazy but honestly how would you design faceless mooks better then them huh?
you're not supposed to know the secret police exist. It was never stated anywhere that we're not supposed to know who they are! And half the fandom can design secret police better than the blobs of lead IDW is trying to pass off as Transformers.


For someone who none stop complains and acts like to troll about IDW you sure do know a lot about it. :-?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby ctrlFrequency » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:44 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
1984forever wrote:
Deadput wrote:
1984forever wrote:Starscream's secret police would be cool if actual Transformers were used. All of the secret police look like men in grey clunky suits of armor. IMO the artists are too lazy to design any unnamed character that looks like it could actually Transform.

Edit: Got rid of the first bit I see their mention in the description my bad.
Your logic makes no sense (it never does) the badgeless are supposed to be you know secret and your not supposed to know who they are I'm pretty sure it's just armor anyways that you can't transform in.


And you think this is lazy but honestly how would you design faceless mooks better then them huh?
you're not supposed to know the secret police exist. It was never stated anywhere that we're not supposed to know who they are! And half the fandom can design secret police better than the blobs of lead IDW is trying to pass off as Transformers.


For someone who none stop complains and acts like to troll about IDW you sure do know a lot about it. :-?


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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:45 pm

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1984forever wrote: you're not supposed to know the secret police exist. It was never stated anywhere that we're not supposed to know who they are! And half the fandom can design secret police better than the blobs of lead IDW is trying to pass off as Transformers.


But the Badgeless are not secret at all they just do secret deeds thier existence is not secret but what they do is their like a real life Black ops team we know they exist but we don't know everything that they do.

This looks exactly what the fandom would make in fact this design looks a lot better then what one person could make up.

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Then again you have a hate boner for everything IDW does and anything that was made after 1985 in fact I wouldn't be surprised if you liked Transformers: Deviations which most people agree is a bunch of turd.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:49 pm

Deadput wrote:
1984forever wrote: you're not supposed to know the secret police exist. It was never stated anywhere that we're not supposed to know who they are! And half the fandom can design secret police better than the blobs of lead IDW is trying to pass off as Transformers.


But the Badgeless are not secret at all they just do secret deeds thier existence is not secret but what they do is their like a real life Black ops team we know they exist but we don't know everything that they do.

This looks exactly what the fandom would make in fact this design looks a lot better then what one person could make up.

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Then again you have a hate boner for everything IDW does and anything that was made after 1985 in fact I wouldn't be surprised if you liked Transformers: Deviations which most people agree is a bunch of turd.


Plus literally the first issue they are introduced, Starscream explains that they are badgeless and faceless so they can "enforce the law" without fear of reprisals in their off hours. So this is probably 84ever talking out his aft again.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:53 pm

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Shuttershock wrote:Plus literally the first issue they are introduced, Starscream explains that they are badgeless and faceless so they can "enforce the law" without fear of reprisals in their off hours. So this is probably 84ever talking out his aft again.



But why is he here I thought he hates IDW Is he just a troll then?


I hate Beast Wars but I'm not going around every BW thread to say how awful the designs are (Not my actual problem)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby RevTibe » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:15 pm

Randomhero wrote:Here's the first two Windblade volumes in a nutshell, "Starscream is bad, why? Because. Can you elaborate? No... He's just bad and he needs to be stopped." Sorry, I'm not a Starscream fanboy but he seriously has done nothing really awful to show he wants to build an empire like Windblade accuses him of he's had the Enigma for a long time now and hasn't used it to build one combiner. Personally I think Starscream has changed. He's still a D-bag but he's not the monster Windblade accuses him to be.
...Did we read the same comics, because in the first Windblade volume the big reveal was that Starscream wasn't the bad guy. Yes, most characters generally think he's up to no good (he is infamous, after all), but volume 1 ends with Windblade concluding that it's better to cooperate with him.

As for the empire-building accusation - Starscream is legendarily power-hungry. We've seen it throughout IDW, and volume 1 made a point of Windblade spending much of her time talking to 'bots familiar with that legacy of greed and treachery. While flawed, (story seemed far too compressed - I'd imagine this is related to it being announced as an ongoing then shifting to a miniseries) volume 2 handled the Starsceam / Windblade dynamic quite well - shifting from competitive to tensely cooperative as the situation changed.

(Also, on the note of Starscream and awfulness, remember when he sicced Menasor on Caminus? Added an angry 'con to Menasor to make it more unstable? Tore the place up, killed a lot of innocent natives? 'Scream's still a monster, just less public about it.)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:43 pm

RevTibe wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Here's the first two Windblade volumes in a nutshell, "Starscream is bad, why? Because. Can you elaborate? No... He's just bad and he needs to be stopped." Sorry, I'm not a Starscream fanboy but he seriously has done nothing really awful to show he wants to build an empire like Windblade accuses him of he's had the Enigma for a long time now and hasn't used it to build one combiner. Personally I think Starscream has changed. He's still a D-bag but he's not the monster Windblade accuses him to be.
...Did we read the same comics, because in the first Windblade volume the big reveal was that Starscream wasn't the bad guy. Yes, most characters generally think he's up to no good (he is infamous, after all), but volume 1 ends with Windblade concluding that it's better to cooperate with him.

As for the empire-building accusation - Starscream is legendarily power-hungry. We've seen it throughout IDW, and volume 1 made a point of Windblade spending much of her time talking to 'bots familiar with that legacy of greed and treachery. While flawed, (story seemed far too compressed - I'd imagine this is related to it being announced as an ongoing then shifting to a miniseries) volume 2 handled the Starsceam / Windblade dynamic quite well - shifting from competitive to tensely cooperative as the situation changed.

(Also, on the note of Starscream and awfulness, remember when he sicced Menasor on Caminus? Added an angry 'con to Menasor to make it more unstable? Tore the place up, killed a lot of innocent natives? 'Scream's still a monster, just less public about it.)


Remember the ending of volume one when it was revealed Starscream wasn't the villain of it but Chromia was? She bombed an area of Metroplex, killing a lot of innocent people and then tried to spacebridge Metroplex back to Caminus which would have killed hundreds more Cybertronians and it ended with Winblade just slapping Chromias hands and saying "do it again and we can't be friends" wow...

Seriously the Plot of Windblade was "grrr Starscream is bad, we need to stop him! Why? Because a bunch of people at blurs bar say he is! Grrrr! We have to stop Starscream!" And then it was revealed he wasn't the villain of that series. How did that end? With Windblade making a deal with him to use the spacebridge if they cover up Chromia killing a bunch of people.

Chromia: I killed a bunch of people
Windblade: -GROAN- that's alright I guess just don't do it again please...

Seriously, that series was really bad.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby RevTibe » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:11 pm

Randomhero wrote:
RevTibe wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Here's the first two Windblade volumes in a nutshell, "Starscream is bad, why? Because. Can you elaborate? No... He's just bad and he needs to be stopped." Sorry, I'm not a Starscream fanboy but he seriously has done nothing really awful to show he wants to build an empire like Windblade accuses him of he's had the Enigma for a long time now and hasn't used it to build one combiner. Personally I think Starscream has changed. He's still a D-bag but he's not the monster Windblade accuses him to be.
...Did we read the same comics, because in the first Windblade volume the big reveal was that Starscream wasn't the bad guy. Yes, most characters generally think he's up to no good (he is infamous, after all), but volume 1 ends with Windblade concluding that it's better to cooperate with him.

As for the empire-building accusation - Starscream is legendarily power-hungry. We've seen it throughout IDW, and volume 1 made a point of Windblade spending much of her time talking to 'bots familiar with that legacy of greed and treachery. While flawed, (story seemed far too compressed - I'd imagine this is related to it being announced as an ongoing then shifting to a miniseries) volume 2 handled the Starsceam / Windblade dynamic quite well - shifting from competitive to tensely cooperative as the situation changed.

(Also, on the note of Starscream and awfulness, remember when he sicced Menasor on Caminus? Added an angry 'con to Menasor to make it more unstable? Tore the place up, killed a lot of innocent natives? 'Scream's still a monster, just less public about it.)


Remember the ending of volume one when it was revealed Starscream wasn't the villain of it but Chromia was? She bombed an area of Metroplex, killing a lot of innocent people and then tried to spacebridge Metroplex back to Caminus which would have killed hundreds more Cybertronians and it ended with Winblade just slapping Chromias hands and saying "do it again and we can't be friends" wow...

Seriously the Plot of Windblade was "grrr Starscream is bad, we need to stop him! Why? Because a bunch of people at blurs bar say he is! Grrrr! We have to stop Starscream!" And then it was revealed he wasn't the villain of that series. How did that end? With Windblade making a deal with him to use the spacebridge if they cover up Chromia killing a bunch of people.

Chromia: I killed a bunch of people
Windblade: -GROAN- that's alright I guess just don't do it again please...

Seriously, that series was really bad.
Yeah, not properly addressing Chromia's bombing in later issues is unquestionably a flaw, but I find it mystifying that you consider the anti-Starscream sentiment unwarranted. He was second in command to a brutal, tyrannical genocidal army that has killed billions, and even other members of that army think he's an untrustworthy lowlife.

Further, the series made it quite clear that the deal she cut with Starscream was not focused on protecting her or Chromia, but on ensuring a route to what Windblade believed a brighter future - the whole arc of the idealistic Windblade having to make severe shortterm moral compromises to support her ideals' longterm goals.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Rainmaker » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:29 pm

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Who's the con next to Arcee and where's Swindle?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:37 pm

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Rainmaker wrote:Who's the con next to Arcee and where's Swindle?


That's Elita 1 Arcee is with Optimus.


Swindle was killed in the final issues of Windblade.
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Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?

Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.


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