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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:43 am

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
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Sunstar wrote:I only chose her because of what she did with that badgeless - it seemed brutal.

G1 had more than enough suggestions that the bots were the aggressors Basically off topic - so using spoiler tag

My points being (G1 cartoon based)

Autobots fired the first shots at the Decepticons – Starscream only meant to bury the ark's entrance.
Autobots attempted to keep the Decepticons on Earth.
Autobots took fuel from the humans and never left to go back to Cybertronian
Autobots continuously keep the Decepticons away from energy (and as a result starving them forcing them to take action)

The Decepticons may have attacked human built stuff, but the humans attacked the Decepticons and they defended themselves. The Autobots swooped in, drove them off and said the “Decepticons are bad, but we are good.”

Decepticons and Autobots unite to fight off unicron. Bots are victorious, Decepticons exiled to starve to death on Charr - and they wonder why they rise up to fight the Autobots.


Even if they did a reboot - which would suck because this was pretty glorious. And as for anything in this franchise, you can pick and choose what you love and dislike. I sure as heck love this <3

These are good points and in dear of going further off-topic...When you get really into it, the 80s toon was just black and white, the Autobots were the good guys and decepticons bad guys (after all if you didn't think of yourselves as bad guys, why call yourself a name along the lines of deception?) If you delve deeper into the g1 toon, far more than you should you come across a few problems like why the War lasted as long as it did if the Autobots could beat them week in and week out? At the end of S2 it would of been impossible for Megatron to take over a scrap yard then all of Cybertron, yet that's what happened thanks to off screen magic.

Guess that's neither here or there with regards to taao :-P
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Sunstar » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:27 pm

Motto: "All hail Lord Starscream"
Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
I love hte route they went with Starscream though, because it was along the lines of what I was thinking he could or would do. Its not far off the mark of my writing anyway.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:31 pm

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Sunstar wrote:I love hte route they went with Starscream though, because it was along the lines of what I was thinking he could or would do. Its not far off the mark of my writing anyway.

I wouldn't mind a minseries that looked at starscreams early origins, what he was like before he got introduced to megatron
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby snavej » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:45 am

He must have been angry about Autobot corruption but he wasn't able and/or willing to start his own revolution. I guess that he had some power already but he probably wanted more. When Megatron's fury went nuclear (literally), Starscream took his chance and attacked Autobots with full force. Starscream was an ultra-ambitious chancer. He became ruler of the reformatted Cybertron. However, he's just changed his approach radically again by coming clean on past crimes. As for his future, we shall see.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Sunstar » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:23 am

Motto: "All hail Lord Starscream"
Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
I know it more relates to OP than TAAO but, the fact he has knowlege of something going on outside might really make scoop realise there is something real about him - even if star is for some reason being haunted. Scoop is going to go outside and think.. how the hell does he know?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Z3ROhour » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:40 pm

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snavej wrote:Actually, jail is no defence against magic.



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Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Volume 3 TPB

Postby Va'al » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:48 am

Motto: "Till All Are Pun!"
One of the shortest but hard hitting series of Transformers comics from IDW Publishing sees this week the release of its third and final collected trade paperback volume, and we have a full preview courtesy of the publisher directly - check out the opening pages of Till All Are One volume 3, containing the last arc of the series (issue 9-12) and the Annual 2017.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:55 am

Motto: "It doesn't matter which universe or timeline you’re from. If you’re dedicated to defending it, you’re on my side."
Weapon: Fusion Cannon
Wow, I have never really read any of the IDW comics, only the first issue of All Hail Megatron and the Shockwave Spotlight, but dang if I want to start buying these now, they're incredible! Who knew "Autobot Starscream" would be such a good character from just these scraps of a comic! I was in love with these comics, and now my love has jumped to a totally new level! Can't wait for the Unicron finale! :michaelbay: ;)^ :POPCORN: :APPLAUSE:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:56 am

Nathaniel Prime wrote:Wow, I have never really read any of the IDW comics, only the first issue of All Hail Megatron and the Shockwave Spotlight, but dang if I want to start buying these now, they're incredible! Who knew "Autobot Starscream" would be such a good character from just these scraps of a comic! I was in love with these comics, and now my love has jumped to a totally new level! Can't wait for the Unicron finale! :michaelbay: ;)^ :POPCORN: :APPLAUSE:



He’s not an autobot. He’s just none aligned.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:32 am

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
Weapon: Twin Shoulder-Mounted Rocket Launchers
Nathaniel Prime wrote:Wow, I have never really read any of the IDW comics, only the first issue of All Hail Megatron and the Shockwave Spotlight, but dang if I want to start buying these now, they're incredible! Who knew "Autobot Starscream" would be such a good character from just these scraps of a comic! I was in love with these comics, and now my love has jumped to a totally new level! Can't wait for the Unicron finale! :michaelbay: ;)^ :POPCORN: :APPLAUSE:

Scott did a good job with Starscream, keeping him a smarmy self centered con with delusions of granduer and still making a chsracter you almost want to support. The finale to his arc was kinda eh in how it was handled, but it really drove home a very interesting point about Starscream, and the nature of Cybertronians, and how they see their body image.

Since you mentioned the Spotlights, I reccomend "Jazz" (especially with Predaking coming soon) and "Prowl". Prowl's Art Style is either you love it or hste it, but its a great one shot story for Prowl. "Cliffjumper" too

Also, the Wreckers. Moreso the first than rhe second, but both are awesome
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:07 pm

Flashwave wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:Wow, I have never really read any of the IDW comics, only the first issue of All Hail Megatron and the Shockwave Spotlight, but dang if I want to start buying these now, they're incredible! Who knew "Autobot Starscream" would be such a good character from just these scraps of a comic! I was in love with these comics, and now my love has jumped to a totally new level! Can't wait for the Unicron finale! :michaelbay: ;)^ :POPCORN: :APPLAUSE:

Scott did a good job with Starscream, keeping him a smarmy self centered con with delusions of granduer and still making a chsracter you almost want to support. The finale to his arc was kinda eh in how it was handled, but it really drove home a very interesting point about Starscream, and the nature of Cybertronians, and how they see their body image.

Since you mentioned the Spotlights, I reccomend "Jazz" (especially with Predaking coming soon) and "Prowl". Prowl's Art Style is either you love it or hste it, but its a great one shot story for Prowl. "Cliffjumper" too

Also, the Wreckers. Moreso the first than rhe second, but both are awesome


The art is great in Prowl is great the story however is regarded as one of the most hated and controversial stories in IDW due to it trying to justify Prowls change in character in the ongoing. The writer says it was never intended to be a spotlight and was to be a flashback in the second to last volume of the ongoing ‘police action’. It feels like a shoehorned excuse personally. I don’t mind the spotlight but I know a lot of people hated it and accused Schmidt and Costa trying to appease the crowds that like prowl from Spotlight Iup and All hail megatron 15 but backlashed when the story came out and didn’t do actually do anything.

It was handled a lot better by Barber in RID with prowl admitting he tried to change but just couldn’t adjust due to the erratic nature of humans and fellow cybertronians.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Sunstar » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:58 pm

Motto: "All hail Lord Starscream"
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there is a boat load of irony and foreshadowing in those pages alone.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:54 pm

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
Weapon: Twin Shoulder-Mounted Rocket Launchers
Randomhero wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:Wow, I have never really read any of the IDW comics, only the first issue of All Hail Megatron and the Shockwave Spotlight, but dang if I want to start buying these now, they're incredible! Who knew "Autobot Starscream" would be such a good character from just these scraps of a comic! I was in love with these comics, and now my love has jumped to a totally new level! Can't wait for the Unicron finale! :michaelbay: ;)^ :POPCORN: :APPLAUSE:

Scott did a good job with Starscream, keeping him a smarmy self centered con with delusions of granduer and still making a chsracter you almost want to support. The finale to his arc was kinda eh in how it was handled, but it really drove home a very interesting point about Starscream, and the nature of Cybertronians, and how they see their body image.

Since you mentioned the Spotlights, I reccomend "Jazz" (especially with Predaking coming soon) and "Prowl". Prowl's Art Style is either you love it or hste it, but its a great one shot story for Prowl. "Cliffjumper" too

Also, the Wreckers. Moreso the first than rhe second, but both are awesome


The art is great in Prowl is great the story however is regarded as one of the most hated and controversial stories in IDW due to it trying to justify Prowls change in character in the ongoing. The writer says it was never intended to be a spotlight and was to be a flashback in the second to last volume of the ongoing ‘police action’. It feels like a shoehorned excuse personally. I don’t mind the spotlight but I know a lot of people hated it and accused Schmidt and Costa trying to appease the crowds that like prowl from Spotlight Iup and All hail megatron 15 but backlashed when the story came out and didn’t do actually do anything.

It was handled a lot better by Barber in RID with prowl admitting he tried to change but just couldn’t adjust due to the erratic nature of humans and fellow cybertronians.

I thought it was great, the willingness to throw themselves down in front of harms way for an inferior species, and despite being an endangered species themselves, really jelps define what being an Autobot means.

And I am sorry, but I can not condone the marionette looking mouth Prowl has in there. There have been thousands of better looking Prowl heads drawn before and since. Its nice though that he is definately the Universe Prowl model
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Re: IDW Transformers: Till All Are One Discussion Thread

Postby AlphaBass » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:51 am

The interplay between Starscream and Bumblebee has always been a highlight of mine.
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