First Look at Legacy Blaster, Iguanus, Skywarp and Hot Rod + More Official Images of Today's Reveals

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Overall, I'm more surprised that we didn't see the second voyager and leader, or any core class figures. Is there another event coming up? Cause if Wave 1 comes out December like the other lines, that's not too much time? Or is Wave 1's missing voyager and leader Soundwave and Galvatron refreshes? Cause they don't tend to show off the refreshes for the lines

This Legacy line is not due out until 2022, even with early retail releases. In winter 2021, you are getting the next wave of Kingdom which is still not finished.

Mindmaster wrote:IIRC, either Blaster or Armada Starscream are supposed to be the second Voyager (the other being Wave 2) but I guess they held off on them and the Cores for a later time. BBTS has listings for Bulkhead and a “mystery figure”.

It's Blaster. This Mystery figure shit is nonsense, just reveal the damn figures Hasbro.

Oof.

In the last couple of days I made my feelings known regarding Bulkhead and Skids. Now, for the rest that I see featured in this thread. Keep in mind, this is just my opinion. If you like them, fine. It's your money. Suffice it to say I am underwhelmed. It seems that most of these figures suffer from 1 of the modes being subpar in order to accommodate the other mode.

The bot modes on Dragstrip and Optimus look good, the vehicle modes not so much. The CW version of Dragstrip is clearly superior overall. The only reason to get this one is to display the Stunticons both separately and combined. I never cared for G2 Prime, so this will be a pass.

Arcee is definitely an overall downgrade from the TFP deluxe, the only positive I can think of is that she doesn't have the original's back kibble. But they gave her a flat chest and a blank face, which is a bummer.

Kickback looks good in both modes, but I'm very happy with the Prime Wars version, so he's not needed. If you like him, great.

And Galvatron to me is just a waste of plastic and leader spot in the line. But if you like him, good for you.

I'm still looking forward to the rest of the reveals, but my expectations have been heavily grounded. Bring on the rest of the BW figures, and maybe Blaster. Otherwise, it's money saved.

Also, just a reminder, there are a lot of shipping and supply delays right now, in the US at least, due to the inefficient response of the inept current federal government to this "pandemic," so it's quite possible that what we're used to as far as the timeline of new figures hitting shelves will not be the same for this holiday season.

And finally, a response to a specific post by Cyber Bishop from page 40:

You chided some of us who complain about this new line (me being 1 of those), so here's my answer. Just because Hasbro keeps putting stuff out for the "older demographic," doesn't mean we should accept that stuff automatically out of fear that we won't see anymore. Especially when they're seriously dropping the ball design-wise. If this Legacy line fails, what makes you think they will simply regress to making simple kiddie toys, as you said? It seems Hasbro is just taking it for granted that we buy everything they give us, just for this reason. And to me it seems this is causing them to slack not only on quality but innovation as well, especially when prices are going up.

So yeah, as a member of the "older demographic," I am a bit unhappy and unsatisfied with what we've been getting. Sure, it's my choice to buy the figures or not, but no one (not Hasbro or fellow fans) can tell me that I am ungrateful for not validating their lack of progression in design and production with my wallet. And maybe a financial failure of this new line will wake them up to how stagnant they are becoming and they will actually focus on other continuities besides G1. And shoehorning characters from other continuities into G1 doesn't count. It might give a new facet to G1, but so far the 2 examples (Arcee and Bulkhead) have done major disservice to the source material.

Looks like those 3rd party kit makers are gonna have PLENTY to work with next year...

There is another way to look at the price of this Ravage 2-pack: It's less than one-sixth the price of the cheapest Beast Wars X-9 Metals Jaguar currently on eBay.

Sabrblade wrote:There is another way to look at the price of this Ravage 2-pack: It's less than one-sixth the price of the cheapest Beast Wars X-9 Metals Jaguar currently on eBay.

Feel like comparing a modern release, even an exclusive like this, to a Japan-only release from 20+ years ago is a little misrepresentative.

It's overcharging for a figure because they think they can. At that price, it's largely scalper bait. Others can justify it to themselves however they want, it's a bad price point for a deluxe figure.

Laser Optimus looks AMAZING, but if he doesn't have a picture of himself burning down a forest on his trailer is he really worth getting?

grimdragon2001 wrote:On Dragstrip, the G1 toy's combiner peg was on the bottom of the car or Dragsrtip's back. Given that this new toy is based on G1, its possible the combiner peg is simply on his back, out of view. It could still be the Combiner Wars peg, wont know for sure until we see how it combines.

Come on, man, there is a video out there showing all the reveals, that's what this whole discussion is about. And in it, we see the back, so it is not out of view. Before posting about what may be out of view, just check the video to be sure if that's the case or not.

Prediction: Blaster wasn't revealed because he's still going to be part of Kingdom wave 5 with Pipes and Slammer (we can assume it still exists since even the earliest Wave 1 figure in Bulkhead doesn't come out until May 2022), and they just decided not to reveal wave 5 for whatever reason.


Anyway, Legacy is looking pretty great so far. All of the figures look cool, but Prime and maybe Arcee are the only ones I'm interested in buying. Can't wait until they reveal Blaster, he's my #2 want from Legacy after Minerva

So my buys from this will be lighter than any other line since I began collecting Generations in 2014.
From wave 1, I will get Kickback and Dragstrip and that's it from this presentation. Might get the cores and Blaster if I don't have him yet. I will get the Lazer Prime mold as Black Convoy simply because I find it fun that the best known version of that classic mold is a repaint, making it a character of it's own. And it will be fun to superimpose that with the other Scourge we are getting in 2022 for ROTB.

I felt honored to finally be able to make Bulkhead look like he belongs in our G1 universe!

I think having an unified aesthesic for all different versions Transformers to be able to interact in single toyline is good,however,I don't think calling it "G1 Universe" is the right way to go about it.

william-james88 wrote:

Seeing Optimus Prime and Megatron in the top...is Megatron the WFC Trilogy version?
If the storyline continues from where Kingdom left off my interest is increased.

Never had a Prime Arcee,might be worth to get her for the collection.

Does anyone else think that both Laser Optimus and Arcee's blades look too round?