First Look at new ROTF Bumblebee Retool and More!

Who was it that argued against the idea of vehicle mode weapons? Something along the lines of, "then what is the point of transforming?"

Well, I agreed with you. Here's what we got in return.

I like the shoulder weapons. But why do we always have to sacrifice one weapon for another? Would it have been too much to ask for shoulder weapons AND his hand cannon? The combination would have sold me on this....but the lack of his other weapon is a turn off.

Hmmm this weapons in vehicle mode thing they are doing is nothing new or spectacular. Remember M.A.S.K.?

Next will be Optimus Primes weapons mode!!!

Might I suggest that they put the vehicle the right way up before taking the picture?

Serpent O - R wrote:Who was it that argued against the idea of vehicle mode weapons? Something along the lines of, "then what is the point of transforming?".

You need to be able to refuel!!! Vehicle modes to me equal, useful alternative to robot mode for disguise, speed, transport, flight, more artillery, what not, robot mode to me equals hanging out at maccadam's oil!

I'm confused, is this Bumblebee the preview figure (that one that ships with Soundwave) or is this figure being released in addition to the preview figure?

That second picture looks like a crappy McDonald's toy...


As for Bumblebee, I admit the shoulder cannons are kinda cool and there are some nice mild-alterations to the mold...But it doesn't make me want to buy ANOTHER Bumblbee (when I already have three of the previous verions of this mold)

And it seems to me that it's becoming a bit of a misnomer to call it a "Concept Camero", seeing as how the car is IN production and available to the public as the 2009-model Camero...

Speaking of which, I hope that means they'll actually be able to do some cool stunts with him in this movie since they now have more than ONE car available to work with...And they can drive it faster than 25mph...

Phenotype wrote:I'm confused, is this Bumblebee the preview figure (that one that ships with Soundwave) or is this figure being released in addition to the preview figure?

this must be a different version the preview fig doenot have cannons shit I have to buy another bumblebee thanx agin hasbro

Phenotype wrote:I'm confused, is this Bumblebee the preview figure (that one that ships with Soundwave) or is this figure being released in addition to the preview figure?

This is released in addition to the preview figure.

You just know someone is going to kitbash all the Bumblebees into some amazing matchup.

please more and better pics of the prototype animated toy

if the torso is more stable, (and i do think it looks that way) i'm sold on this figure

My Autobot army is going to consist of Optimus Prime and 2 dozen variations of Bumblebee by the time the 3rd movie comes out. I'm really glad they didn't feel the need to do this crap back in the G1 days.
Come to think of it, they don't really NEED to do this crap now!!!
Screw this toy, I'm not buying it! I think it's about time we sent a message to Hasbro that we aren't going to be their bitches any longer!
I'm sick of their crappy repaints and their basic lack of thought and effort and inability to give us products that are worth a damn.
I really hate to say it, but this toy line (the whole Trafnsformer toy line) is turning into one huge dissapointment and I think has finally reached the end of it's run. I'm to the point where I don't even want to buy Transformers for my kids anymore. I'd just as soon get them TCG's or Ben10 figures before I get them TF's.
Let's see if Hasbro can guess which finger I'm holding up now!

It looks much better then the preview BB we saw. does he actually have his right hand or does he have a gun for a hand like the preview BB has ?
either way i'm going to keep out on this BB and get the Human Alliance one instead.

Bumblebee looks cool. Probably won't get it. HA looks amazing.

i like the cybertronian design. Cool.

Cybertronian mode Ironhide? Ratchet repaint in 3 2 ....

Bumblebee looks cool, I knew it was smart to wait and see what happens before I bought one.

Finally after all these variations they got him right ! i already have 5 differnt paintjobs for this toy..why not one more ???

Bumblebee doesnt look to bad but i still dont think im going to get it. As for the Ironhide/Ratchet thing ill probably buy. If it is indeed Ironhide then its a must buy.

mmm idk which bumbles to get I'll wait for more pics but this one looks pretty sweet.

There's a little too much yellow on Bumblebee's arms, and it looks like they're using the solid blue windows of the '74 Camaro rather than the much more awesome translucent ones of the '08 Camaro model.

Still, the new guns are pretty awesome.

The arms are the most significant change to the retooling. Not the cannons. It looks a LOT like the kitbash I did a year ago, by removing the arms from the top roof and having that rooftop fold inwards and snap into the back via a separate structure I had to build myself. It was complex, but made for a more accurate outcome.

There was still plenty of room in front of the doors for cannons or whatever.

Here's what I mean: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19570

- Lionel

T-Macksimus wrote:My Autobot army is going to consist of Optimus Prime and 2 dozen variations of Bumblebee by the time the 3rd movie comes out. I'm really glad they didn't feel the need to do this crap back in the G1 days.
Come to think of it, they don't really NEED to do this crap now!!!
Screw this toy, I'm not buying it! I think it's about time we sent a message to Hasbro that we aren't going to be their bitches any longer!
I'm sick of their crappy repaints and their basic lack of thought and effort and inability to give us products that are worth a damn.
I really hate to say it, but this toy line (the whole Trafnsformer toy line) is turning into one huge dissapointment and I think has finally reached the end of it's run. I'm to the point where I don't even want to buy Transformers for my kids anymore. I'd just as soon get them TCG's or Ben10 figures before I get them TF's.
Let's see if Hasbro can guess which finger I'm holding up now!

cool it man.
also take into account your talking about toys marketed for 3 year olds.
some of us feel the same way you do,but the point is that we dont do anything because hasbro has done this for years and they wont stop now.
but if they didn't have variations and recolors,even more poeple would hate the toys even more.

example:
some people(me included)dont like animated deluxe bumblebee,so i bought the activator to be in scale,but i didn't like the colors(namely the yellow),so i bought the patrol version to fit with the other autobots as far as colors go(his yellow makes him stick out)

if they didn't have variations and recolors id be completely screwed on having a bumblebee,because i hated the main version of it.

primeoptimus wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:My Autobot army is going to consist of Optimus Prime and 2 dozen variations of Bumblebee by the time the 3rd movie comes out. I'm really glad they didn't feel the need to do this crap back in the G1 days.
Come to think of it, they don't really NEED to do this crap now!!!
Screw this toy, I'm not buying it! I think it's about time we sent a message to Hasbro that we aren't going to be their bitches any longer!
I'm sick of their crappy repaints and their basic lack of thought and effort and inability to give us products that are worth a damn.
I really hate to say it, but this toy line (the whole Trafnsformer toy line) is turning into one huge dissapointment and I think has finally reached the end of it's run. I'm to the point where I don't even want to buy Transformers for my kids anymore. I'd just as soon get them TCG's or Ben10 figures before I get them TF's.
Let's see if Hasbro can guess which finger I'm holding up now!

cool it man.
also take into account your talking about toys marketed for 3 year olds.
some of us feel the same way you do,but the point is that we dont do anything because hasbro has done this for years and they wont stop now.
but if they didn't have variations and recolors,even more poeple would hate the toys even more.

example:
some people(me included)dont like animated deluxe bumblebee,so i bought the activator to be in scale,but i didn't like the colors(namely the yellow),so i bought the patrol version to fit with the other autobots as far as colors go(his yellow makes him stick out)

if they didn't have variations and recolors id be completely screwed on having a bumblebee,because i hated the main version of it.

theres mothing wrong with the yellow

cool it man.
also take into account your talking about toys marketed for 3 year olds.
some of us feel the same way you do,but the point is that we dont do anything because hasbro has done this for years and they wont stop now.
but if they didn't have variations and recolors,even more poeple would hate the toys even more.

example:
some people(me included)dont like animated deluxe bumblebee,so i bought the activator to be in scale,but i didn't like the colors(namely the yellow),so i bought the patrol version to fit with the other autobots as far as colors go(his yellow makes him stick out)

if they didn't have variations and recolors id be completely screwed on having a bumblebee,because i hated the main version of it.[/quote]

theres mothing wrong with the yellow [/quote]





i dont hate yellow,it's probably my favorite color(from all the bumblebee's everywhere)
it's just the bright yellow makes him stick out next to prowl,shockwave and grimlock
also, for FINALLY hasbro gives us a cybertron form that doesn't suck(titaniums sucked.movies were crap on wheels.cyb.mode prime looked like a red version of the movie ones)

Pre-Earth Ratchet? Pre-Earth Ironhide? Dunno... looks to me like someone painted a tortoise's legs red and dumped it on it's back...

Looks like the Bumblebee cannons come at a cost - looks like the chest doesn'r deform any more.

Oh, well, I got all the other versions of this dude, I'm sure I can stretch to another one. How many versions of this mould have we had now?

Original
Allspark
Evolution of a Hero (Battle Damage)
Premium
Cliffjumper
Stealth
Screen Battles

and now the Cannon and preview versions from ROTF!! Will it ever stop?

nemesis-prime wrote:

primeoptimus wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:My Autobot army is going to consist of Optimus Prime and 2 dozen variations of Bumblebee by the time the 3rd movie comes out. I'm really glad they didn't feel the need to do this crap back in the G1 days.
Come to think of it, they don't really NEED to do this crap now!!!
Screw this toy, I'm not buying it! I think it's about time we sent a message to Hasbro that we aren't going to be their bitches any longer!
I'm sick of their crappy repaints and their basic lack of thought and effort and inability to give us products that are worth a damn.
I really hate to say it, but this toy line (the whole Trafnsformer toy line) is turning into one huge dissapointment and I think has finally reached the end of it's run. I'm to the point where I don't even want to buy Transformers for my kids anymore. I'd just as soon get them TCG's or Ben10 figures before I get them TF's.
Let's see if Hasbro can guess which finger I'm holding up now!

cool it man.
also take into account your talking about toys marketed for 3 year olds.
some of us feel the same way you do,but the point is that we dont do anything because hasbro has done this for years and they wont stop now.
but if they didn't have variations and recolors,even more poeple would hate the toys even more.

example:
some people(me included)dont like animated deluxe bumblebee,so i bought the activator to be in scale,but i didn't like the colors(namely the yellow),so i bought the patrol version to fit with the other autobots as far as colors go(his yellow makes him stick out)

if they didn't have variations and recolors id be completely screwed on having a bumblebee,because i hated the main version of it.

theres mothing wrong with the yellow

Sorry about that guys, glitch in the wiring. I know better, and I've preached to the converted myself more times than I can remember. It's hard to maintain ones focus when some things have become some stagnant on so many levels and the gears of progress seem to be grinding up all the wrong things in their way in the slow march forward. Just took out frustration about other cumulative stuff in the wrong area. Hard not to do when the economy and state of everything else seems to kick one in the proverbial groin.

...and yeah, at least he's still yellow. Have to give thanks for the small contants in the universe.
nemesis-prime and primeoptimus, thanks! This is what "community" is all about. I appreciate you guys. (the rest of you, too!)

This is just my "2 cents of dial-up talk" but I don't see why we CAN'T have many different variations of Bumblebee when:

Barbie has over 1000 variations, how many different version of Malibu Beach do we need? Apparently, many collectors do.

My Little Pony has over 5 variations of EACH pony (micro, small, medium, large, plushie, make-up, etc) and sometimes mixed with playsets.

Batman comes in basic action figure, stealth-type, underwater excursion, heavy-armor type, flying version, and multiple sizes.

Disney has HOW MANY variations of Mickey Mouse throughout the 90 years? Poodle-skirt-style, Flapper-style, Rapper-style, Steampunk-style, Transformers-style, how many?

The list goes on: Spiderman, Star Wars, GI Joe, WWE, etc.

- Lionel

I kinda like all the repaints and remoulds, but just to play devil's advocate to the post above...

The Barbie line is the Barbie line, it's been popular for half a century. Okay, so there are a few subsidiary characters, but the line IS Barbie. We are fans of The Transformers toyline, not The Bumblebee toyline.

Each of the Batman toys had a different gimmick. There was one that could change into Bruce Wayne, there was an underwater one, a flying one, even a few with lights and sounds. At least a bit of effort wnet into each individual version, other than just 'hey, let's slap some luminous blue paint on him and re-sell him again' as was done with the Allspark version.

The thing is, Transformers has continued for so long because of its versatility, its penchant for change and new ideas, and its good attitude towards innovation. How are Barbie dolls today any different from the ones that were being released ten years ago?

Now, I realise that there is a market for repaints (otherwise, why sell them?), and personally I contribute to that market. But I can see both sides of the argument.

Besides, remoulds and repaints aren't a new thing - just look at G1 toys such as Thundercracker, Red Alert, Targetmaster Kup, Frenzy, Smokescreen et al.

Everyone's surely used to it by now, eh?