First Look at ROTB Scorponok toy Alt Mode + Japan Exclusive Toy Promotion

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We have even more Transformers Rise of the Beasts toy news coming from Japan. Firstly, the Scorponok target master two pack will be exclusive to Toysrus there, which makes sense as it is a Target exclusive in the US. This official reveal from Takara shows us the alt mode, something we didn't get from Hasbro. We see the bot's Scorpion mode and we see the weapon mode of the scorpion target master.

Also, a big product launch for a toyline in Japan means a new campaign with an exclusive repaint. For these toys, Takara is doing a promotion where they will give away a red clear repaint of the Firedrive target master figure, called "Burning Plasma Blaster", to customers who purchase 5,000 yen (tax included) or more of "Transformers Beast Awakening" related products in store.

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Re: First Look at ROTB Scorponok toy Alt Mode + Japan Exclusive Toy Promotion (2158337)
Posted by SpaceEagle on March 23rd, 2023 @ 12:03am CDT

Hoping to get those lil animal Battlemaster buds, the other stuff's cute and neat but teeny lil animals becoming weapons is even cuter and neater imo!

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 23rd, 2023 @ 12:13am CDT

I'm not sure what, but my PO on Amazon for the basic toys have pushed up to the end of the month.

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Posted by cloudballoon on March 23rd, 2023 @ 12:50am CDT

The playability of this kids-focus line is pretty good! Some even surpass the Deluxe/Studio Series versions in screen accuracy (Bee, Nightbird).

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 23rd, 2023 @ 4:30am CDT

Most of these looks very good.
I especially like the beast targetmasters.

The only thing that I don't like is that Cheetor who wear shorts in both mode. This look dumb.

Oh and those "one step" Bee and Nightbird are genius! Sure, the vehicle look damaged, but the bots are awesome for what they are.

Re: First Look at ROTB Scorponok toy Alt Mode + Japan Exclusive Toy Promotion (2158346)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on March 23rd, 2023 @ 5:46am CDT

Ok that Airazor looks good, might be nice to see it retooled into a Beast Wars Airazor as it looks even nicer than the Kingdom mold

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Posted by william-james88 on March 23rd, 2023 @ 11:53am CDT

grimdragon2001 wrote:Ok that Airazor looks good, might be nice to see it retooled into a Beast Wars Airazor as it looks even nicer than the Kingdom mold

I want it retooled (or at least give that transformation) to Terrorsaur. I really love the idea of having nice wings dissapear in robot mode, he needs that.

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Posted by cloudballoon on March 23rd, 2023 @ 1:17pm CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:Most of these looks very good.
I especially like the beast targetmasters.

The beast Targetmasters are uniformly great. Too bad they're bundled into the kids-line figures (which is pretty good tbh, but not for myself) I'd get all of them if they're sold as Core price 2-packs.

And poor Scourge. He got the short end of the design stick, his whole lower-half is OP's.

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Posted by william-james88 on March 23rd, 2023 @ 4:36pm CDT

cloudballoon wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Most of these looks very good.
I especially like the beast targetmasters.

The beast Targetmasters are uniformly great. Too bad they're bundled into the kids-line figures (which is pretty good tbh, but not for myself) I'd get all of them if they're sold as Core price 2-packs.

And poor Scourge. He got the short end of the design stick, his whole lower-half is OP's.

Cheetor, Rhinox and the crocodile target master are sold individually at least.

Re: First Look at ROTB Scorponok toy Alt Mode + Japan Exclusive Toy Promotion (2158373)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 23rd, 2023 @ 4:43pm CDT

I got charged by Amazon for something, not sure what, but it's something.

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Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2023 @ 5:55pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I got charged by Amazon for something, not sure what, but it's something.

Re: First Look at ROTB Scorponok toy Alt Mode + Japan Exclusive Toy Promotion (2158395)
Posted by M. Spector on March 23rd, 2023 @ 7:25pm CDT

i am completely obsessed with the new beast mode Target/Battle Masters, getting all of them hands down. it really helps to that the weapon modes are so weirdly good and nicely detailed?

Re: First Look at ROTB Scorponok toy Alt Mode + Japan Exclusive Toy Promotion (2158416)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 24th, 2023 @ 7:35am CDT

That Scorponok looks real nice, I am excited for that one.

I am excited for a lot of these, it looks like we are going to have some fun toys to mess with

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 24th, 2023 @ 7:46am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:That Scorponok looks real nice, I am excited for that one.

Indeed, that Scorpy is a must have.

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 24th, 2023 @ 5:07pm CDT

I'll be getting the Prime and Primal Weaponizer 2-Packs tomorrow. Who's ready for a ROTB party?

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Posted by Emerje on March 24th, 2023 @ 7:32pm CDT

I need to figure out how to get my hands on that "Burning Plasma Blaster". Maybe Mandarake will end up with a bunch of them...

Also love that the Scorpion Battle Master has 5mm holes in his claws.

Emerje

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Posted by LordBludgeon on March 24th, 2023 @ 8:01pm CDT

Am I the only one who thought this Scourge was Wreck-Gar? Giving me serious Animated Wreck-Gar vibes.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 24th, 2023 @ 9:11pm CDT

LordBludgeon wrote:Am I the only one who thought this Scourge was Wreck-Gar? Giving me serious Animated Wreck-Gar vibes.

You mean the big "smash n change" who have the same frame as the Optimus?

Yeah, I can see it.

Re: First Look at ROTB Scorponok toy Alt Mode + Japan Exclusive Toy Promotion (2158504)
Posted by Ig89ninja on March 25th, 2023 @ 12:24pm CDT

I found this at my local Target, the Bumblebee and Arcee versions were also on that peg.

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Posted by william-james88 on March 25th, 2023 @ 1:55pm CDT

Ig89ninja wrote:I found this at my local Target, the Bumblebee and Arcee versions were also on that peg.

Where is your local target located?

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Posted by william-james88 on March 25th, 2023 @ 2:09pm CDT

We have reports of several toys from the Transformers Rise of the Beasts main toyline being found or now in the hands of US fans.

From our own Seibertronian, Ig89ninja, we have reports of the Beast Alliance Beast Combiners found at their local Target. Those include Bumblebee & Snarlsaber, Arcee & Silverfang and Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher, they are $21.99. We also have in hand images from TF Fan Sponge who found them at a Target in Texas and also provided the receipt with DCPI. We see through their images that the armours are interchangeable with the robots.

Ig89ninja also found the Target exclusive 3 pack that includes deluxe Nightbird, Cheetor and Wheeljack. So great news for fans of that design. That 3 pack is $59.99.

Lastly, the Optimus primal and Optimus Prime Beast Alliance Beast Weaponizers 2-Packs have come in from Amazon.com and been delievered to US fans. They were $14.94 and we have a review for Optimus Primal with Arrowstripe.

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 25th, 2023 @ 3:38pm CDT

Amazon have delayed mine until tomorrow. They're the weaponizers so I think those are the ones with the beasts that turn into guns, I think.

Good to see that three pack is out now, wish it would show up online.

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Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2023 @ 7:25pm CDT

Arcee's boobs are literal headlights.

Emerje

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Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2023 @ 8:05pm CDT

Emerje wrote:Arcee's boobs are literal headlights.

Emerje

So are Bumblebee's.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 25th, 2023 @ 8:33pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Arcee's boobs are literal headlights.

Emerje
So are Bumblebee's.

Wreck-Gar is still unbeatable in that regards. (Man, is it cold here!)

Re: First Look at ROTB Scorponok toy Alt Mode + Japan Exclusive Toy Promotion (2158543)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 26th, 2023 @ 12:17am CDT

Another one of my ROTB orders got pushed up to tomorrow, I think it's the stand alone Optimus Prime, I don't even think it comes with a weapon.

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Posted by william-james88 on March 26th, 2023 @ 10:24pm CDT

With the new Transformers Rise of the Beasts gimmick toys out now, we have a review to give you a better look at the toy in case you are curious about it.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Finally, we have some official, non-side-released, Rise of the Beasts toys to check out. Beast Combiner Optimus Primal with Skullcruncher is a fun toy, borrowing heavily from the Spark Armor concept from Cyberverse while bringing something new to the table. You really have to like the wink and a nod homage to the very first Beast Wars release from back in the day. While targeted towards younger fans, there's more than a little here for older fans as well.

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Posted by Sabrblade on March 26th, 2023 @ 10:33pm CDT

Reminds me of the larger-sized Spark Armor toys from Cyberverse.

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 26th, 2023 @ 10:35pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Reminds me of the larger-sized Spark Armor toys from Cyberverse.

You and me both.

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Posted by william-james88 on March 26th, 2023 @ 10:57pm CDT

This is more of a clarification than news, but judging from the comments on social media, it seems it bears to be mentioned. While a multipacks of deluxe class figures for the Transformers Rise of the Beasts line have been revealed and even found, we are still getting the same deluxe figures as individual releases. Not only have we had listings for the single deluxe releases, but we also have shipping manifests showing that these single releases have arrived at US ports. This was confirmed by TFW2005 user Silver Optimus.

Which means that on Target shelves, you will have deluxe class toys from the 3 packs that will also be on shelves sold individually at the same time. If anyone is curious as to why Target would get have the same items on shelves at the same time, it is most probably due to the film delays. While the individual deluxe releases (by that I mean the non SS deluxe Airazor, and the Wheeljack with glasses toy we've seen) were all scheduled for a 2022 release, Hasbro is only distributing them now. The Target exclusive 3 packs may have always been scheduled for 2023 (since 2022 still had a steady stream of Buzzworthy Bumblebee releases) and now everything is coming to shelves at the same time. There should be no difference between the decos. What is happening here is the same thing that happened with the Cyberverse deluxe 3 pack, except since that one was released as scheduled, the 3 pack was released after the individual releases.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 27th, 2023 @ 4:36am CDT

Toys R Us charge a whopping 30$CAN more for that Cyberverse 3 pack than if the deluxes were individually sold. Meaning you pay for a "phantom" deluxe.

So I wonder what the price of the individual ROTB deluxes will be and how much that 3 pack would cost at Toys R Us? That is, if they bother ordering the damn thing in the first place.

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 27th, 2023 @ 12:20pm CDT

I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 27th, 2023 @ 12:33pm CDT

Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster? :lol:

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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 27th, 2023 @ 12:35pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

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Posted by william-james88 on March 27th, 2023 @ 12:36pm CDT

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster?

If you mean that Crocodile, then no, I am going gaga over it too

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 27th, 2023 @ 12:45pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who's going gaga over the Targetmaster?

Which one? There are several out now with more to come.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 27th, 2023 @ 12:56pm CDT

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 27th, 2023 @ 1:32pm CDT

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:/:)

I would be more into it if that mold didn't get reused so much during Siege. Surprised Takara aren't rolling out those Gashapon Microns from Prime.

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Posted by Emerje on March 27th, 2023 @ 8:51pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 27th, 2023 @ 8:55pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje

Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.

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Posted by Emerje on March 28th, 2023 @ 8:44am CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje

Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.

Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 28th, 2023 @ 10:17am CDT

Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think even if everything was released as it was supposed to, Target would still have the single packed figures on the shelves at the same time as the 3-pack. I wish Target would get this stuff up online.

Why the target online shopping is so difficult is beyond me. I want this stuff online too so I can get it. My local target is not good for exclusives

I've always believed that stores like Target and Walmart have less than desirable online experiences is because they don't want to diminish their brick and mortar sales.

It's strange though since this seems to be a problem unique to toys. Anything else sold in stores I can order online and pick up the same day, but for toys they seem to actively limit what you can buy. I've lost track of the number of times Target has had something listed as in stock at a local store and refused to let me add it for pickup or refused to let me do site to store. Walmart at least will leave most listings active even when they're sold out, but Target removes listings pretty regularly even when you know something is in stock in a local store. Frustrating.

Emerje

Because toys are often destination purchases, meaning you only buy them when you have/want to and thus will bring you into the store and thus may lead you to buying something else from another department.

Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje

They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 28th, 2023 @ 11:49am CDT

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Posted by Emerje on March 28th, 2023 @ 8:35pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje

They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.

Manga does have that pull and it follows the same demographic. In fact it pretty regularly shows up in the weekly ads to get people into stores to buy it, including this week:

target manga.JPG

My local store has one full shelf section dedicated to it.

Emerje

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 28th, 2023 @ 9:24pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Same is true for media, but they have a full selection of games, movies and books on the site. If you go on Target and search Manga you'll find 26 pages, most of which are in stock and "not available in stores" despite having a fair selection in stores, too. If they can do that with media then they're just as capable of doing it with toys.

Emerje

They could, but I think different items have different theories behind them. Remember, they still believe that kids drive toy sales, thus it's kids looking for toys that bring parents into the store and then hopefully they have the attitude of "While I'm here..." I don't think Manga has that pull. By the way, not that I really look, but I never see Manga at my Target.

Manga does have that pull and it follows the same demographic. In fact it pretty regularly shows up in the weekly ads to get people into stores to buy it, including this week:

target manga.JPG

My local store has one full shelf section dedicated to it.

Emerje

It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.

Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.

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Posted by Sabrblade on March 28th, 2023 @ 10:02pm CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.

It's all because big corporations in the West still refuse to see comic books and animation as anything more than just "for kids". Unless it's explicitly pornographic, or something like Family Guy and South Park. Then they'll recognize it as "mature content". Sadly, there's no in-between. It's either one extreme or the other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.

Unfortunately, the problem with how comics and animation are viewed in the West is the exact same problem with how Transformers is viewed in Japan. In other words, Japan sees Transformers media as kids stuff aimed primarily at a very young audience, hence why every single Japanese-made Transformers anime (The Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Beast Wars Second, Beast Wars Neo, Car Robots, Legends of the Microns, Superlink, Galaxy Force, and Go!) have all been made with a grade school-aged audience in mind, and why many Japanese Transformers dubs (G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Animated, Prime, and Robots in Disguise 2015) have been dumbed down from their original English versions. It's all because of the belief in Japan that piloted robots are for more grown up audiences while living robots are goofy kiddie stuff.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 28th, 2023 @ 10:12pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:It's bizarre that Manga )and Anime) is still considered a "kid thing" in the West, despite being mainstream for at least 20 years over here. Plus, it's also just a medium to convey stories for ALL ages and ALL genres.
It's all because big corporations in the West still refuse to see comic books and animation as anything more than just "for kids". Unless it's explicitly pornographic, or something like Family Guy and South Park. Then they'll recognize it as "mature content". Sadly, there's no in-between. It's either one extreme or the other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made. Something with a high budget left to the Japanese creators would be perfect.
Unfortunately, the problem with how comics and animation are viewed in the West is the exact same problem with how Transformers is viewed in Japan. In other words, Japan sees Transformers media as kids stuff aimed primarily at a very young audience, hence why every single Japanese-made Transformers anime (The Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Beast Wars Second, Beast Wars Neo, Car Robots, Legends of the Microns, Superlink, Galaxy Force, and Go!) have all been made with a grade school-aged audience in mind, and why many Japanese Transformers dubs (G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Animated, Prime, and Robots in Disguise 2015) have been dumbed down from their original English versions. It's all because of the belief in Japan that piloted robots are for more grown up audiences while living robots are goofy kiddie stuff.

It's hilarious to see the "same problem" being flipped over East-West. :lol:

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Posted by Till-all-R1 on March 28th, 2023 @ 10:51pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:It's all because big corporations in the West still refuse to see comic books and animation as anything more than just "for kids". Unless it's explicitly pornographic, or something like Family Guy and South Park. Then they'll recognize it as "mature content". Sadly, there's no in-between. It's either one extreme or the other.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, it's not rare for Western IPs to have a manga adaptation so maybe a Transformers manga or anime that would be well made and is not a parody could be made.

I've yet to see a Western adaptation that has been any good anyway, either direct Japanese or even a Korean adaptation are generally much better. Maybe because they have a better understanding of the source material, or the western version has to be altered and watered down so much to appeal to a general movie going audience.

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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 28th, 2023 @ 10:54pm CDT

All these years and I can't get over that transformers is still considered kid friendly even though there's death and violence in the shows.

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Posted by Sabrblade on March 28th, 2023 @ 11:16pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:All these years and I can't get over that transformers is still considered kid friendly even though there's death and violence in the shows.

Japan is also very lenient about what they let their younger audiences view. They're nowhere nearly as Puritanical as the U.S. is.

Dragon Ball Z, for instance, had lots of blood and violence in it, yet was still considered a kids anime. Its original Japanese ending theme songs being super silly and cutesy are a testament of that.

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 29th, 2023 @ 4:33am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:All these years and I can't get over that transformers is still considered kid friendly even though there's death and violence in the shows.
Japan is also very lenient about what they let their younger audiences view. They're nowhere nearly as Puritanical as the U.S. is.

Dragon Ball Z, for instance, had lots of blood and violence in it, yet was still considered a kids anime. Its original Japanese ending theme songs being super silly and cutesy are a testament of that.

Hokuto No Ken (Fist of the North Star) was also a "kid anime" way back in the early 1980's.
In France, they dubbed the series and aired the episodes on TV without censor. But after a few episodes, there were complains for some reasons. :lol:

If the ROTB movie is well received, I'd love to have a cartoon series based on that movie. Especially if it focus on the :MAXIMAL:

VS the Terrorcon (or something.) No current year politics, brilliant writing like the original BW series, and a budget to make the CGI episodes look "real enough".

But I think I'm asking for the Moon with this.

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