First Look at Selects G2 Swoop and Sludge Set

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Following up the recent Selects G2 set of Snarl and Slug, we have our first look at the second set consisting of G2 Swoop and Sludge. Both figures are based on figures unreleased in the original G2 line similar to the yellow G2 Grimlock we got in the Walmart Toxitron capsule line. Of particular note, Swoop now features a new head based on the original toy. As per usual these Selects figures will be made available through fan channels, though pre-orders and release date haven't been announced as of yet. More info as we get it!

The following images come via TFW2005 user XenoXX121.

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Comment by megatran 1 day 6h ago

Silly question. Why wasn't the og G2 of these toys ever released back in the day?

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Comment by chuckdawg1999 1 day 6h ago

megatran wrote:Silly question. Why wasn't the og G2 of these toys ever released back in the day?

The G2 line didn't set the world on fire so Hasbro cut its losses.

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Comment by Sabrblade 1 day 5h ago

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
megatran wrote:Silly question. Why wasn't the og G2 of these toys ever released back in the day?

The G2 line didn't set the world on fire so Hasbro cut its losses.

Yeah. G2 struggled because it couldn't compete against the new hotness of the time, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.

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Comment by chuckdawg1999 1 day 5h ago

I don't even think it's that. Transformers lasted WAY longer than most lines do, people were ready to move on.

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Comment by Emerje 1 day 5h ago

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't even think it's that. Transformers lasted WAY longer than most lines do, people were ready to move on.

People had already moved on, G2 was supposed to be the comeback. But these weren't making the cut after the brand moved to doing new molds instead of bringing back old ones.

Emerje

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Comment by Sabrblade 1 day 5h ago

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't even think it's that. Transformers lasted WAY longer than most lines do, people were ready to move on.

Transformers did die for a couple of years after 1990 in the US, with G2 fully starting up in 1993.

G2 was started as an attempt to revitalize the brand after its post-1990 US absence, but it couldn't cut the muster after just two years, ending prematurely in 1995, with the brand being given to Kenner to try something new with it. Had Kenner not reinvented it from the ground up as Beast Wars, the Transformers brand would have simply been put out to pasture.

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Comment by -Kanrabat- 1 day 5h ago

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't even think it's that. Transformers lasted WAY longer than most lines do, people were ready to move on.
Transformers did die for a couple of years after 1990 in the US, with G2 fully starting up in 1993.

G2 was started as an attempt to revitalize the brand after its post-1990 US absence, but it couldn't cut the muster after just two years, ending prematurely in 1995, with the brand being given to Kenner to try something new with it. Had Kenner not reinvented it from the ground up as Beast Wars, the Transformers brand would have simply been put out to pasture.

Beast Wars was Kenner's idea?
Damn!

When the G1 nostalgia becomes too stale, maybe Hasbro should commission another company to work on Transformers again.
They should look into South Korea. Lately, they are releasing bangers.

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Comment by Sabrblade 1 day 4h ago

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't even think it's that. Transformers lasted WAY longer than most lines do, people were ready to move on.
Transformers did die for a couple of years after 1990 in the US, with G2 fully starting up in 1993.

G2 was started as an attempt to revitalize the brand after its post-1990 US absence, but it couldn't cut the muster after just two years, ending prematurely in 1995, with the brand being given to Kenner to try something new with it. Had Kenner not reinvented it from the ground up as Beast Wars, the Transformers brand would have simply been put out to pasture.

Beast Wars was Kenner's idea?
Damn!

When the G1 nostalgia becomes too stale, maybe Hasbro should commission another company to work on Transformers again.
They should look into South Korea. Lately, they are releasing bangers.

Hasbro had acquired Kenner by then, so Kenner was (and currently still is) just a subsidiary of Hasbro instead of a separate company.

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Comment by chuckdawg1999 1 day 4h ago

Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't even think it's that. Transformers lasted WAY longer than most lines do, people were ready to move on.
Transformers did die for a couple of years after 1990 in the US, with G2 fully starting up in 1993.

G2 was started as an attempt to revitalize the brand after its post-1990 US absence, but it couldn't cut the muster after just two years, ending prematurely in 1995, with the brand being given to Kenner to try something new with it. Had Kenner not reinvented it from the ground up as Beast Wars, the Transformers brand would have simply been put out to pasture.

Beast Wars was Kenner's idea?
Damn!

When the G1 nostalgia becomes too stale, maybe Hasbro should commission another company to work on Transformers again.
They should look into South Korea. Lately, they are releasing bangers.
Hasbro had acquired Kenner by then, so Kenner was (and currently still is) just a subsidiary of Hasbro instead of a separate company.

Hasbro developed Beast Wars, they slapped the Kenner name on the packaging in case the line failed. That way they wouldn't get the stink on them.

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Comment by Emerje 1 day 1h ago

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hasbro developed Beast Wars, they slapped the Kenner name on the packaging in case the line failed. That way they wouldn't get the stink on them.

Not true. At the time Hasbro had moved all of their boys toy lines to Kenner, they were still an active company and responsible for everything. They were only used as a label after 2000.

Emerje

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Comment by -Kanrabat- 22 hours ago

Regardless, I wonder what would be the next "Beast Wars," meaning the next line that would revitalise Transformers with fresh ideas, and most of all, ORIGINAL characters for once? :-?

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Comment by nwr_levi 18 hours ago

I wonder if anyone else has noticed a certain someone on the box of G2 Swoop and Sludge. :-P

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Comment by Emerje 16 hours ago

nwr_levi wrote:I wonder if anyone else has noticed a certain someone on the box of G2 Swoop and Sludge.

I don't see anybody.

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This is why giving proper credit is important, never know what kind of secret water marks may be lurking.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Regardless, I wonder what would be the next "Beast Wars," meaning the next line that would revitalise Transformers with fresh ideas, and most of all, ORIGINAL characters for once?

I doubt the current people running Hasbro would ever take a chance on something new to that scale. Like back then the brand would have to be on its last legs and handed off to somebody else to inovate.

Emerje

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Comment by Sabrblade 16 hours ago

-Kanrabat- wrote:Regardless, I wonder what would be the next "Beast Wars," meaning the next line that would revitalise Transformers with fresh ideas, and most of all, ORIGINAL characters for once?

In addition to what Emerje said above, the closest comparison to that that we've gotten in recent years was BotBots. And before that, arguably Rescue Bots.

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Comment by kuhlio 14 hours ago

I feel the problem is, as a fandom we generally want what we already have had upgraded.

For example- Earthspark tried to give us new characters--- and its widely fallen on its face. Closest we have had was the Prime crew, or maybe even RID 2015 to a certain extent. Recue Bots seem to have a some legs, but by far and large, even when we get something new like the Hot Wheels Crossovers, or the new Stranger Things figures, we see the reveals and immediately play "repaint this into x or y"

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Comment by -Kanrabat- 9 hours ago

Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Regardless, I wonder what would be the next "Beast Wars," meaning the next line that would revitalise Transformers with fresh ideas, and most of all, ORIGINAL characters for once?
In addition to what Emerje said above, the closest comparison to that that we've gotten in recent years was BotBots. And before that, arguably Rescue Bots.

When "serious" fans mock Rescue Bots, I cringe into a pretzel. This line have some serious bangers and they are an amazing introduction to Transformers for the next generation. And furthermore, the original characters of Rescue Bots are trickling down into Generations! I find this amazing.

My only complain about Rescue bots is the fact that it's all about the same 5 or 8 characters and they just don't seems to settle on a single altmode.

As for Botbots, I never got into the line and I see it as some novelty thing. However, I'm sure some ideas will carry over for some minicons or even bigger bots down the line. :-?

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Comment by megatran 6 hours ago

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't even think it's that. Transformers lasted WAY longer than most lines do, people were ready to move on.
Transformers did die for a couple of years after 1990 in the US, with G2 fully starting up in 1993.

The G1 animation TV series, which was a glorified TV advertisement, ended by then, too. Now, it could be the case of which led to what; the chicken or the egg story. Perhaps the show ended (prematurely) because of flagging toy sales & interest.

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Comment by Sabrblade 6 hours ago

megatran wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't even think it's that. Transformers lasted WAY longer than most lines do, people were ready to move on.
Transformers did die for a couple of years after 1990 in the US, with G2 fully starting up in 1993.

The G1 animation TV series, which was a glorified TV advertisement, ended by then, too. Now, it could be the case of which led to what; the chicken or the egg story. Perhaps the show ended because of flagging toy sales & interest.

The G1 cartoon ended because it had simply run its course in syndication. 98 episodes was more than enough for TV networks to play in reruns for years on end. It also lost steam by 1987 since it couldn't compete with the new hot fads of the time: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, DuckTales, and the Nintendo Entertainment System. The three-episode fourth season didn't generate enough viewership to warrant production on another full-season's worth of episodes.

But even after the G1 cartoon died, the toyline continued for three more years until 1990 without any need of a cartoon to support, while the Marvel Comics ran for three-and-a-half more years until mid-1991. The comics in particular really took off once the cartoon ended since Simon Furman took over as writer of the US issues from Bob Budiansky, and Furman really kicked things up a notch first with his four-part "return of Megatron" story arc, his 16-issue Unicron storyline, and the final five issues that brought the story to a close (due to Marvel executives deciding to pull the plug on the comic series since the toyline was basically over and the sales weren't as high as they'd have liked them to be, when the sales numbers for the Transformers Marvel comics at the time were doing even better than most comic sales of today).

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Comment by chuckdawg1999 6 hours ago