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First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack

Posted by william-james88 Jan 28, 2024 at 11:12pm CST 89,146 views
Prime vs Prime posted a review of deluxe Studio Series ROTB Wheeljack and inside it, we get a glimpse of a new never before seen Wheeljack toy. It's the Earthrise mold, but in a toon accurate deco with an opaque window. This is most probably from the upcoming 5 pack in the gen selects line which also features Hound, Trailbreaker (who we've also seen), Sunstreaker and Jazz. They should all have opaque windows and toon accurate decos.

Also, this will be the way we finally get a release of the earth mode Hound mold in Hound colours. For those unaware, it is being released in a 5 pack after the original plans for an individual release were cancelled by Target due to their poor logistics when handling previous Buzzworthy Bumblebee releases.

Below is the image of Wheeljack along with the review it comes from.

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Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Jan 28, 2024
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.


Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Rodimus Prime Jan 28, 2024
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.


Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?
No it gives it more. Rounding it off would have cut off some of the blue area.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Jan 29, 2024
Rodimus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.


Doesn't it being squared off give it less blue? With at least the remaining semi circle of blue removed from the sea of blue?
No it gives it more. Rounding it off would have cut off some of the blue area.
Indeed. Here is a crude illustration of what I mean. On the left is the official robot mode cutting of the windshield, on the right is how I wish it was cut:

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Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Emerje Jan 29, 2024
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.

Emerje
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Jan 29, 2024
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.

Emerje
See my illustration above that shows what I mean. It needed to not only be rounded, but also smaller, which would place it above the waist rather than down in front of it.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by chuckdawg1999 Jan 29, 2024
william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Found a photo of the 5-pack Wheeljack…
I like it. I was in either way, but I like it.


Is it just me or is anyone else wondering how far the aftermarket prices on the Masterpieces will drop?


I don't see how. If we are talking about Wheeljack, that MP is still the best WJ out there. Plus MP is a different scale entirely and they have licensed alt modes.


Because lately Hasbro has been giving us animation accurate figures that are "Close Enough" for most people so they can skip on the MPs. I have both versions of Wheeljack and while they're fantastic, if I had this version first I wouldn't have gotten the MP. The Masterpieces deliver in accessories and little touches that make them stand out.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by frogbat Jan 29, 2024
Yeah looks a bit better than the previous two, but not much. Never was a fan of this mould. Wheeljack, sunstreaker and mirage were a bit disappointing compared to other excellent figures we’ve had recently.

Will I get this? Probably will for hound and I liked the trail breaker, .

Waiting for the destroyed ss86 version now… also, once they release a powerglide, I’m expecting a full hoist goes to Hollywood box set,
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Emerje Jan 29, 2024
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Wow, that Wheeljack looks really ... not good. The blue completely overwhelms the figure.
Yet another reason the windshield shouldn't have been squared off on the bottom.

It's not hard to figure out, if they left it rounded it would sit far below his waist and interfere with the swivel. This is more of a compromise since it allows full articulation and it pulls the bottom of the windshield up nearly as high as it is in the cartoon even if it means changing the shape.

Emerje
See my illustration above that shows what I mean. It needed to not only be rounded, but also smaller, which would place it above the waist rather than down in front of it.

No, I get the differences, but making it smaller would have also meant making the car mode somehow smaller since it's not a fake part. Changing the shape of the windshield and roof would have meant making it too small for the car mode, it's already quite small. Only way to get the the chest right is too entirely start over again.

Emerje
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by -Kanrabat- Jan 29, 2024
The only way for that Wheeljack to have the "right" chest would have to use a fake part. It could have been possible to do, but they went the other route.

In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Emerje Jan 29, 2024
-Kanrabat- wrote:In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.

Even though I prefer the opaque windows I do wish they wouldn't use that bright blue. The cartoon used the bright blue sparingly, usually going for a pale blue.

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Emerje
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by -Kanrabat- Jan 29, 2024
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:In clear brown, that chest work, but in "cartoon" baby-blue, it's just ugly.

Even though I prefer the opaque windows I do wish they wouldn't use that bright blue. The cartoon used the bright blue sparingly, usually going for a pale blue.


Emerje


These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.

Toyhax may fix this with Reprolabels, but it should have been done since the start.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Jan 29, 2024
Here's a better example of what I mean, showing the whole windshield in its vehicle mode shape, but with the cutting for robot mode still visible. On the left is the official cutting, on the right is my suggestion:

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Or, hey, if nothing else, shaping the whole windshield like how it's shaped on the Authentics figure (which already cribs much of its design and transformation from the Earthrise figure, just made more simplified) would have been just fine:

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Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by o.supreme Jan 29, 2024
-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.


:-? For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by TF-fan kev777 Jan 29, 2024
o.supreme wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.


:-? For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.


The problem with those release were that they cell shaded the whole figures, not just the windows.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Overcracker Jan 29, 2024
Wow... not feeling Wheeljack at all, the opaque sky blue wind shield looks really odd with the squared off corners.

The issue is the rest of the car windshield needs to tuck into the shins, so not sure they could re-tool it to cut it any other way, or if it would have even been worth it to do.

Though, I'm still kind off annoyed its the only way to get Sunstreaker at a decent price.

Prepare for a flood of Wheeljacks hitting eBay once this 5 pack is released. I mean does anybody still need a Wheeljack at this point? One as awkward as Siege with opaque windows?

Somehow the squared off windshield looked less odd when done in translucent smokey black.

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Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by blackeyedprime Jan 29, 2024
thought that was just a bad digi bash, if not then it really highlights how sausages the windows are on that wheeljack figure (I only picked up netflix version because it was £7). He could definitely have done with a retool like Hound.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by -Kanrabat- Jan 29, 2024
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:These "cartoon" windows on the toys would work much better if it were à print of some "cell-shaded reflexion." Not a plain, unified color.


:-? For the 35th anniversary, Hasbro repainted some Siege figures with cell shading, offered through Walmart. I'm not sure what the overall consensus was. If they were liked or not? I don't really mind either way. I've just seen some other companies try to do it was comic book based characters (Like Batman for instance) and the fans of those lines seem pretty negative towards it.


The problem with those release were that they cell shaded the whole figures, not just the windows.


Yeah, it look weird for the whole figure. Cell-shade just the windows and it would look great.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Randomhero Jan 29, 2024
I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it. Cant wait for sunstreaker where everyone pretends it’s the first time theyre seeing his windshield on his chest…or this engine gun…or his little chinstrap/goatee.
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Jan 29, 2024
Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it.
Oh, I didn't like it back then either. I just wasn't as vocal about it at the time. :P
Re: First Look at Wheeljack from Autobot 5 Pack (view post)
Comment by Randomhero Jan 29, 2024
Sabrblade wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I feel like i traveled back to 2020 when wheeljack was first shown when everyone whined and complained about his windshield and now everyone is acting like this is the first time they’re seeing it.
Oh, I didn't like it back then either. I just wasn't as vocal about it at the time. :P



Considering how you live on the message boards and always have something to say about anything and everything I highly doubt you weren’t vocal about it 4 years ago.
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