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Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings

Posted by william-james88 Apr 21, 2017 at 2:36pm CDT 37,239 views
Here's somethign fun for you to try. Toysrus UK has some blank listings for the voyager class figures of the Transformers The Last Knight toyline and the only way to see that the pages are different from oneanother is the header (the tab on your browser). You can click on the links below and have your cursor hover over the header to see how the listings differ from one another. The listings include Voyager Bumblebee. This further confirms that it was not an error on Amazon Spain, there will actually be a voyager Bumblebee. That can, of course, mean anything from it being a new mold to it simply being the HFTD deluxe Bumblebee packaged in a voyager box and priced as such, which is what Takara has already done three years ago (pictures below).

Here are the listings. Oddly, there is no (blank) listing past Scorn, also further confirming that the mainline will only have 6 voyager figures.

So, for example, the Voyager Class would start at TRUP2459650001, which is a blank listing, but in the header it says "Tf5 Premier Voyager Ast". So that listing is for the assortment in general. It works like this for every assortment.

TRUP2459650005 "Tf5 Premier Voyager Ast Autobot Hound".

TRUP2459650006 "Tf5 Premier Voyager Ast Bumblebee".

TRUP2459650007 "Tf5 Premier Voyager Ast Scorn".

Here is below, the last (and only time) we had a movie line Bumblebee at the voyager price point, just to give you an idea at what can happen.

Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings
Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings

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Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Apr 21, 2017
Bronzewolf wrote:I was talking about the packaging. People were talking about it being a Optimus/Megatron box set. Platinum edition style.

Sorry, I didnt catch that. That would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!

Seaking of great decos though, while i was never gonna get it I cant help but feel dissapointed at how the cool deco seen at Toyfair for Leader Prime totally did not translate to the finished toy.

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They ever removed the flame details on his chest.
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Comment by Bumblebee21 Apr 21, 2017
william-james88 wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:I was talking about the packaging. People were talking about it being a Optimus/Megatron box set. Platinum edition style.

Sorry, I didnt catch that. That would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!

Seaking of great decos though, while i was never gonna get it I cant help but feel dissapointed at how the cool deco seen at Toyfair for Leader Prime totally did not translate to the finished toy.

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They ever removed the flame details on his chest.

wouldnt this be a case of aoe leader grimlock too. here they could change it at the last minute.
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by AgentK2 Apr 21, 2017
If I'm being honest, I'd be okay with a deluxe Bee in a voyager package if that means that the Bee will be a better one that it would be if it was a deluxe. For a voyager price, I presume that they'd be doing more with this figure than they would if it was for the regular deluxe price. If the extra money means they can put more paint and attention to detail without being so bound by price, then I'd be totally down for this. The Bee that we saw (not the AOE wave 1 repaint, gross) in the toyfair images looks really good in my opinion and I might even reconsider whether I get that or the Masterpiece one, need more pictures first.

If this is the case that we get better deluxes in voyager packages, then I'd totally be down. They can release what they're releasing in the deluxe lines now in the deluxe lines (which I think is decent, maybe not as good as it once was in my opinion but still, good), and make better deluxes for voyager prices to please the collectors more, and the young ones who realize that man, that later-wave Bee looks so much better than that AOE repaint (more like a depaint am I right? Up top! Sorry, I'll show myself out now).
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by ToaLeePrime Apr 21, 2017
Here's me hoping that the voyager bee will be based off that wwII design we caught a brief glimpse of in that film roll teaser. Let's be real here the new deluxe mold has pretty much nailed the new design out of the gate, and the masterpiece is unsurprisingly stunning. I'd love to have a lil truck bee though, because as much as I love ludicrous amounts of camaros, I love variety too.
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by -Kanrabat- Apr 21, 2017
TLK is finally out today at TrU.

Well, the paint of those figures do look nice, but not 1/2 or 1/3 more expensive nice. Bet most of the price increase went to the fancy packaging.

I was about to buy the 1-step TLK Hound for my Hound/Bulkhead collection. But it's 14$CAN! WITH NO PAINT! I've seen dollar stores KOs with more paint than that. Once again, 14$!

Jesus.
Who-love-his-mom-a-bit-too-much.
Christ.
#-o

Well, let's see if the voyager Optimus in the "lost-in-space" deco would ever come out. That, I'd buy right away. Along voyager Hound and Megatron. But those last two will only come out this summer. Oh well...
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Prowl4 Apr 21, 2017
Sabrblade wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:Everytime I see that bugatti I immediately think of blurr. Really wonder what the process was in choosing drift as it would've made more sense and probably added more character to such a misfit crew if it were blurr.
That wouldn't have made any more sense since the car that was used in the movie was more black than it was blue.


Plenty of blue throughout and drift hasn't been known to wear blue. Not only that but the bugatti veyron is the fastest car in the world so that'd also make me think of blurr.
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Prowl4 Apr 21, 2017
ToaLeePrime wrote:Here's me hoping that the voyager bee will be based off that wwII design we caught a brief glimpse of in that film roll teaser. Let's be real here the new deluxe mold has pretty much nailed the new design out of the gate, and the masterpiece is unsurprisingly stunning. I'd love to have a lil truck bee though, because as much as I love ludicrous amounts of camaros, I love variety too.


I think people are sleeping on bumblebee being the new prime to be honest. Just hoping mark Ryan doesn't voice him.
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Apr 21, 2017
-Kanrabat- wrote:Well, let's see if the voyager Optimus in the "lost-in-space" deco would ever come out. That, I'd buy right away. Along voyager Hound and Megatron. But those last two will only come out this summer. Oh well...

Really, did you see the final deco? It doesnt look as sexy as the first time he was revealed.

He wont come to Canada but he will be out at BBTS and Robot Kingdom so you will be able to buy him there.

Another thing, even if you wanted to buy those one steps, they wouldnt have let you. TRU's cash freezes when they scan those since they hardcoded a street date. I tried. Walmart didnt though so you can buy from them no problem.

And I mentioned before that Voyager Prime didnt have the deco in the right place. Here are some examples. There is this flimsy plastic piece that is a totally diferent colour than the rest of his body to hide the legs in truck mode and the lack of paint on it makes it stand out and not in a good way:

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Comment by william-james88 Apr 21, 2017
I forget who asked and where but Berserker is a licensed Chevrolet vehicle. The back of the box even has a licence for corvette specifically, and I dont know why. Dont know if the one steps are licenced, didnt check.
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat Apr 21, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Also, stay away from Berserker, that toy is dreadful.


Was... that intentional? :lol:

Here's a little something for you guys to think about concerning Voyager Bumblebee: what current size class would the standard Human Alliance toys fit in?
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Apr 21, 2017
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Also, stay away from Berserker, that toy is dreadful.


Was... that intentional? :lol:

Here's a little something for you guys to think about concerning Voyager Bumblebee: what size class would the standard Human Alliance toys fit in?


Ah, smart! While they are bigger than voyager, I would still put them as voyager. Using Takara once again as a precedent, their Movie the Best HA Soundwave was sold at the voyager price point.

And yes 100% intentional
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Houstonian Prime Apr 22, 2017
TLK wave 1 making its way on to shelves here in the Houston area. Picked up a few turbo changer's and legions from Wal-Mart this morning. They also had those 12" titan changers (prime & bee), and voyagers. Prices weren't as high as i thought they'd be either. One-steppers for $8, legions for $7... happy hunting!
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Comment by Bronzewolf Apr 22, 2017
Houstonian Prime wrote:TLK wave 1 making its way on to shelves here in the Houston area. Picked up a few turbo changer's and legions from Wal-Mart this morning. They also had those 12" titan changers (prime & bee), and voyagers. Prices weren't as high as i thought they'd be either. One-steppers for $8, legions for $7... happy hunting!

You bought toys from Michael Meyers?!?
Have a nice day and thank you for shopping at Walmaaaaart
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Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Houstonian Prime Apr 22, 2017
LoL!! I noticed that also.. the store manager is Michael Meyers, creepy...
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Va'al Apr 22, 2017
Via the official Facebook page for Transformers Hong Kong, we have our first spot for the Knight Armor Turbo Changers (featuring Grimlock, Optimus Prime, and Bumblebee) - figures that we have covered previously here. Check it out below!

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Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Deadput Apr 22, 2017
Pretty good cgi for just a toy commercial anyone think Prime could get that helmet in the final battle or something in the movie?

While I doubt it myself especially for the other characters they clearly already have a "model" for Optimus that could be tweaked for the actual movie Cgi like maybe he get's fully brainwashed or something since that red is the same color as that red "thing" on his left cheek.
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by DedicatedGhostArt Apr 22, 2017
Voyager Prime looks really good. Paint looks meh, but I really want a good base for customizing anyway. :D

Oh btw, is Prime's trailer hole a 5mm peg hole?
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Apr 23, 2017
The Transformers: The Last Knight toyline is being released worldwide this week and if you are curious to know what is in store if you pick up one of the only two new deluxe molds, Berserker, then I wrote a review with pictures. He is not great, but definitely a step up from Barricade, who was just too small, simple and kibble heavy for my taste. You can read that review here.

Now onto Berserker!

As I said, a definite step up from Barricade in terms of several problems I had. Firstly, he is literally a step up by being a tad bit taller and more in line with what I expect from a deluxe.

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Secondly, the deco and paint apps don't leave me wanting that much more. It's not like there are places which badly need paint and nothing seems cheap. I especially like the asymetrical "X" on his chest. It looks like war paint, lending to his more barbarian and predatory design. All his claws (feet and hands) are painted too to distinguish them from the rest of his hands and feet. The silver highlights on his face give him a nice premium feel as well.

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Lastly, there is a major improvement over barricade (and other shellformers) in how well the shell folds away. This isn't anything close to the genius of Prime Vehicon, but it is better than TLK Barricade, the AOE Leader Optimus Primes and the movie Sideswipe toys we have gotten in the past. There is a lot of compressing and folding to have as little car parts showing as possible.

Personally though, while it's an improvement over other shellformers, it also becomes the figure's downfall. Since the ROTF line, Takara has improved on its engineering for robots which don't show much of their alt mode. Instead of creating a back pack, the found new techniques that involve either turning the figure inside out (AOE Voyager Hound and Optimus Prime) or fully compressing a backpack (Voyagers AOE Galvatron and TLK Optimus Prime) and minimizing alt mode kibble on the robot. However, here they went the old way which means you have all these overlapping panels all across his back (and protruding above his head) plus some really random looking car details along his arms, like movie Leader Ironhide. Also, the car panels that rest on the back of his legs dont fold flush, which is a bit of a bummer, since it brings further attention to kibble that shouldn't be there.

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Oh, speaking of those arm car parts, here's a new complaint: glue is missing. They are "stuck" to the arms due to friction but can drop to the floor at any given instant and will be sure to come off during transformation. Then again, I did complain about them looking random in robot mode so them not being glued means you could remove them no problem for him to look more like the Dreadwind character model. But he probably isn't in the movie anyway (at least not looking like this) so what is the point either way? Moving on, these are not the only parts to come off, the head is really loose and will also come off easily.

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Aside from the car parts clashing with the rest of the figure, the robot mode isn't bad at all. Nice articulation and very expressive.

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The shellforming nature of the figure does come to bite it in the butt when you start transforming it. He is actually quite simple but because he has more seperate panels than need connecting than any transformer I can remember (even more than Leader Sentinel Prime), it becomes a very frustrating transformation. There is a lot of panel massaging and multiple panels clipping onto one another at once from different parts. So clipping another panel can undo the previous ones. One odd thing I noticed while transforming was that he has a hole under his crotch and it doesn't serve for anything (maybe a stand? but it looks too small). A little distracting.

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The shellforming nature means almost none of the robot is visible in car mode and they do succeed here (some robot parts show in the back). You have some panel lines but nothing egregious and if it is transformed correctly, it will all stay together tightly with no gaps. The vehicle appears to look puny at first but it is as long as any other deluxe vehicle. It just looks small because the type of car is usually bigger than a car for a deluxe Transformer. One really cool thing no one has mentioned is how this brings back the pins for the wheels rather than the pressure pegs. He rolls nicely.


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In the end, if you were ok with shellformers from the ROTF era, this is pretty much the same thing with a more finicky transformation and parts that fall off. Still, you get a nice looking robot mode and vehicle mode that look nothing like eachother. I personally preffer it to his other new mold wavemate, Barricade, simply because they do a better job with the back pack, deco and don't overly simplify the transformation. However, I still remain unimpressed with this line so far due to its lack of anything new or smart in terms of engineering.
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat Apr 23, 2017
One quick question: what figure does the axe come from?
Re: Further Confirmation of Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Bumblebee and other Blank Listings (view post)
Comment by Deadput Apr 23, 2017
Once again the vehicle that Berserker turns into was on set briefly.

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I only ever saw this on Tfw2005 and I can't find the image anymore and yes this is stuff from TLK filming.

Why would Hasbro make two new molds for Berserker as in the one step changer and the deluxe and both of them have that red X which seems kind of random even this model has it on his chest

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Before people go like "He was in the trailer!" No he was not that was Hooligan who turns into a Rusty van and uses the Crowbar model as a base and not the Crankcase model like Berserker does.
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