Generations Dirge Photogallery with Side-by-side Gentei! Gentei! Dirge Comparison

I am so glad that I didn't bought Henkei Dirge. Nowadays I've probably had to pay with shipment above 100 of euro's. I guess I would even coughed up 60 euro's to get him. But the Generations version is way better. I've got Generation Thrust as well and I love him. The only one I am missing is Thundercracker, but I am going to repaint Starscream into him.

Here's a pic of a custom made(e-hobby black version) of Classic Starscream.

Oops here he is

if i knew hasbro was going to make an unreleased version of takara verison of dirge & thrust i would have passed up on henkie and got hasbro versions.


but there is not much differnce beteween hasbro & henkei stripes on wings and logo on the chest in bot mode i would have perferd no stripes on wings to look better but i will still buy it

So glad I skipped the Henkei version of Thrust and now Dirge. Hasbro's version are SOOOO much better.

face looks good, like the colors.

also-DIRGE!!!GRNEREJRISADFMGKNGO!!!!

*ahem* I'm definately gonna buy this guy. I've got a guy looking for a Ramjet for me, so all I'll need next is Thundercracker.

It's hard to say which ones are more superior to the other; they both look epic. I'm really into the Generations line......

I like the Henkei versions better, so still glad i bought them.

The Generations one looks better. The black details are superior.

Counterpunch wrote:The Generations one looks better. The black details are superior.

I agree with you about the black details on Dirge..

I ended up buying the Gentei Dirge for the wing mold, but honestly... Hasbro's outdone themselves. The blue is nicer, that black is fantastic especially when compared to the grey, and overall looks much cleaner. My only (minor) pet peeve is that I wish they gave him the fat missiles the Ramjet molds came with instead. Thankfully I can just switch them out with BotCon Thrust's fat missiles :3

I'm glad I didn't cave in for the Henkei version. The better Dirge will be available at a fraction of the cost.

Still not sure why the sunburst stripes on the wings are necessary, but at least they are more subdued than the Henkei.

Hoitytoity wrote:I ended up buying the Gentei Dirge for the wing mold, but honestly... Hasbro's outdone themselves. The blue is nicer, that black is fantastic especially when compared to the grey, and overall looks much cleaner. My only (minor) pet peeve is that I wish they gave him the fat missiles the Ramjet molds came with instead. Thankfully I can just switch them out with BotCon Thrust's fat missiles :3

All you ever want is fat missiles...

No Death for Prowl wrote:Still not sure why the sunburst stripes on the wings are necessary, but at least they are more subdued than the Henkei.

Because the original toy had them.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

No Death for Prowl wrote:Still not sure why the sunburst stripes on the wings are necessary, but at least they are more subdued than the Henkei.

Because the original toy had them.

I did not know that. Thank you.

I checked a pic of G1 Dirge and, lo and behold, the stripes are there, but they run parallel to the body of the jet mode and actually accentuate the figure pretty nicely, IMO.

The updated stripes are not an improvement on the original, methinks.

I call what ever is cheaper. I like Generations Dirge. I like Thrust too. I also hope that Genrations Dirge is not loose. My Thrust is pretty tight. The only seeker I hate now is Henkei Thundercracker.

Note to self: Never buy Henkei toys ever again.

Sigh.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nice comparison shots, both Gen. Thrust and Dirge will have a spot in my collection depending on this: any chance of close-ups on his face? I'm worried about the possible mold degradation shown at SDCC.

You've mentioned this before and I still don't know what mold degradation you're talking about. I do see a handpainted mess of a face on the one displayed at SDCC. The ones used at Botcon were fine if not perfect. Not trying to be argumentative but that dogs got no legs to stand mate.

Aaaaaand preordered. My wallet weeps, but my inner 10 year old rejoices.

No Death for Prowl wrote:I checked a pic of G1 Dirge and, lo and behold, the stripes are there, but they run parallel to the body of the jet mode and actually accentuate the figure pretty nicely, IMO.

Anyone for a betting pool on how long it'll take Reprolables to produce G1-correct stripes?

Flux Convoy wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nice comparison shots, both Gen. Thrust and Dirge will have a spot in my collection depending on this: any chance of close-ups on his face? I'm worried about the possible mold degradation shown at SDCC.

You've mentioned this before and I still don't know what mold degradation you're talking about. I do see a handpainted mess of a face on the one displayed at SDCC. The ones used at Botcon were fine if not perfect. Not trying to be argumentative but that dogs got no legs to stand mate.

Actually there have been pictures surface with mold degradation. Especially on his face, chin area. It has been a worry with me since the first pictures of Dirge surfaced at Botcon. Thankfully, this picture review seems to put those fears to rest.

I agree with everyone else, the Generations version is far superior. My only pet peeve is that the yellow on his shoulders is missing now (replaced with more of the new black). Everything else is a huge improvement, though. Dirge has never been one of my favorite 'Cons, but I'm glad they're giving the Coneheads some attention in the Generations line. Now all we need is Ramjet, and we're set for a Conehead Deluxe 3-pack (yeah, keep dreaming, I know). I gotta say, though - nothing beats the Cybertron Starscream repaint for Dirge in the Universe 2.0 line (packaged with Roadbuster). He just oozes menace and evil in that mold, truly owning up to his name.

I will be very happy to acquire the Generations version. Henkei has some true winners compared to the Hasbro iterations, but not in this case. And not in the case of Thrust either. I am very happy with what Hasbro is doing with these.

OK... so I DID buy all the Henkei coneheads, from Starscream to ghost Starscream and all the Henkei seeker molds in between. And I too have to admit, the colors on this version of Dirge do look better than the ones on my expensive Henkei version. The same is true for Generations Thrust compared to Henkei Thrust, by the way...
Anyhow, I feel this is great news: my Henkei seekers can all stay MOSC, while these Generations versions are excellent for displaying!

amcgrath929 wrote:Actually there have been pictures surface with mold degradation. Especially on his face, chin area. It has been a worry with me since the first pictures of Dirge surfaced at Botcon. Thankfully, this picture review seems to put those fears to rest.

Would you mind linking to the pics? I was at Botcon in person, it looked fine. Again I'm not arguing with you guys, I simply want to see what's getting people so worried. At this point, I honestly don't know what either of you are talking about.

Flux Convoy wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Actually there have been pictures surface with mold degradation. Especially on his face, chin area. It has been a worry with me since the first pictures of Dirge surfaced at Botcon. Thankfully, this picture review seems to put those fears to rest.

Would you mind linking to the pics? I was at Botcon in person, it looked fine. Again I'm not arguing with you guys, I simply want to see what's getting people so worried. At this point, I honestly don't know what either of you are talking about.

It was the one shown at SDCC, not BotCon. To me, it always looked like the test-shot face melting shenanigans they like to pull.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Actually there have been pictures surface with mold degradation. Especially on his face, chin area. It has been a worry with me since the first pictures of Dirge surfaced at Botcon. Thankfully, this picture review seems to put those fears to rest.

Would you mind linking to the pics? I was at Botcon in person, it looked fine. Again I'm not arguing with you guys, I simply want to see what's getting people so worried. At this point, I honestly don't know what either of you are talking about.

It was the one shown at SDCC, not BotCon. To me, it always looked like the test-shot face melting shenanigans they like to pull.

"Eww, I don't want your face, it's all gooey"

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Actually there have been pictures surface with mold degradation. Especially on his face, chin area. It has been a worry with me since the first pictures of Dirge surfaced at Botcon. Thankfully, this picture review seems to put those fears to rest.

Would you mind linking to the pics? I was at Botcon in person, it looked fine. Again I'm not arguing with you guys, I simply want to see what's getting people so worried. At this point, I honestly don't know what either of you are talking about.

It was the one shown at SDCC, not BotCon. To me, it always looked like the test-shot face melting shenanigans they like to pull.

Agreed. I'd say you're right on the money there.

Oh man, the Generations Dirge makes the Takara release look like poop. That's a switch.

Anyway, I may pick this guy up even though I got the Botcon one years back. Dare I say, I may like this one better than Botcon due to the new wing design?! *gasp!* Should I sell my Botcon Dirge????

Wow! A rare event indeed, Hasbro topped Takara! Generations Dirge is indeed a better representation of the character than Henkei. Hurray for less-money-for-the-best-version!

Pyrostrata wrote:Wow! A rare event indeed, Hasbro topped Takara! Generations Dirge is indeed a better representation of the character than Henkei. Hurray for less-money-for-the-best-version!

Not quite so rare. Hasbro's Animated is far better IMO. Hasbro's MP seekers have been nicer as well without having to apply stickers to things as a plus. They get it right nearly as often as Takara. Nearly.

Flux Convoy wrote:

Pyrostrata wrote:Wow! A rare event indeed, Hasbro topped Takara! Generations Dirge is indeed a better representation of the character than Henkei. Hurray for less-money-for-the-best-version!

Not quite so rare. Hasbro's Animated is far better IMO. Hasbro's MP seekers have been nicer as well without having to apply stickers to things as a plus. They get it right nearly as often as Takara. Nearly.

I have to agree with you on this. It isn't as rare as people make it out to be.