Grey Prototype - Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Blast-Off

shajaki wrote:Y'know. The complaints about the arms in shuttle mode.... I don't get. They don't look that out of place to me. They're not at intrusive as say, a certain autobot helicopter.

I mean Blades of course.
(Primus praise Alpha Bravo)

shajaki wrote:Y'know. The complaints about the arms in shuttle mode.... I don't get. They don't look that out of place to me. They're not at intrusive as say, a certain autobot helicopter.

I mean Blades of course.
(Primus praise Alpha Bravo)

Noideaforaname wrote:They swapped the positions of the windows and circle vent thingies, making it look really un-shuttle-like.

hinomars19 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

shajaki wrote:Y'know. The complaints about the arms in shuttle mode.... I don't get. They don't look that out of place to me. They're not at intrusive as say, a certain autobot helicopter.

I mean Blades of course.
(Primus praise Alpha Bravo)

I think it might have been disappointment at not having the arms as part of the shuttle nose, like early art showed. At least, that was part of my disappointment...

Noideaforaname wrote:They swapped the positions of the windows and circle vent thingies, making it look really un-shuttle-like.

Yeah, I noticed that too. The reaction control thrusters on the nose are now above the cabin windows. That wouldn't work well for the shuttle as that space us actually used for windows to look out the top of the shuttle. It's especially helpful when using the remote arm to deal with payloads and such. I'm actually surprised at this lack of attention to detail. I've come to expect more from Takara, I guess...

I think it's a compromise to achieve the accurate look of the robot chest. It is a bit silly, but that's the sad thing about many of the G1 toy to animation model conversions-the 'engineering' of the transformation was ignored. I'd personaly also prefer a more toy accurate Blast-Off, but I admire TT for giving us the very first 'toon accurate combaticon They've done quite a lot of work for something that isn't in the MP line, imo

bvzxa wrote:I'm sick of Hasbro because they force you into their web of deceit. Price points have gone up; quality went down. Hasbro is ok for a kid who's parent(s) doesn't know better and sees "collect all 5" to make big robot.

Now here I come, a collector. What do I see, I nanny brown jet...NO WAY?!?! Another repaint without even a remolded head sculpt? Seriously damn man how many times you gonna use the jet mold now.

In the past I have given Hasbro credit for most of CHUG, with exceptions for Megatron and Astrotrain, I like what they had to offer. Only think Takara id was improve on paint and details so most changes were minor at best, exceptions again for Megatron and Astrotrain.

We get here and the Aerialbots and Stunticons were bascially the blueprint for the entire line...you see what they did now.

Also after owning Hasbro Aerialbots and owning Takars's version at the same time, the quality is just plain better.

Since we're on cost if you bought the Hasbro Aerialbot 5 minus Quickslinger, you spent $91. If you blinked and missed the release of Quickslinger, you are spending an additional $35 for him. So if you're not a fan of Alpha Bravo the better choice is Takara. The paints are a matte finish over the gloss so the details stand out more. I admit when I first got the Hasbro set I thought it was a pretty good job, but the paint apps on Takara are just right.

Again molding aside, Takara wins for value and price. As they say you get what you pay for this time around.

So if they do release right now Deluxe Groove, you know he's gonna sell out and then he's gonna go up in price if you missed the release you're going to be paying more in a sense to have accuracy for you Hasbro set.

Just like CW Devastator if you want accuracy you have to spend at least $70 for two upgrade sets to complete the look. This is just bad comedy. Takara FTW!!

This is what separates the men from the crying boys.

bvzxa wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While I am completely happy to see everyone liking Combiner Wars, objectively speaking this is not Hasbro's best line in terms of quality and value for your buck. For the same prices (counting inflation), the RID 2001 line gave us some insane engineering, heavy use of clear plastic, lots of paint, rubber wheels and projectiles. There was also the animated line which gave us amazing designs and very unique transformations. Then there was the Cybertron/Galaxy Force line which is probably the peak for style and simplicity for toys, making the toys perfect for both collectors and kids. Simple without it sacrificing anything, and loads of details (plus projectiles, clear plastic, nice paint jobs, big heavy toys, sounds and electronics ect).

There are lots more lines like this and the year 2010 was just insane. I cant believe that 6 years ago you could get HFTD Leader Starscream for the same price people are getting Leader Megatron or Ultra Magnus today, it feels like another era. Hell, forget Magnus, he cost the same as CW Leader Starscream. I think I am going to start a fit, call the men in the white coats!

While CW is a super fun line with an excellent combiner port system, there is less value when looking at the diversity in designs and materials, plus the lack of added value for the leader class toys. Doesnt mean its a bad line at all, it is leagues better than FOC. But I would not call this the golden age either. It was discussed more in depth here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=105951&p=1747589&hilit=golden+age#p1747479

In short, think about it guys, Classics Prime is a better voyager Prime figure than CW Prime and that toy came out 10 years ago.

You are speaking of RID, that was all Takara designs from one year before with Car Robots or "Transformers 2000" as it was unofficially dubbed on the internet because Car Robots would show up with Carrots in searches.

The RID versions of X-Brawn, Prowl , and Sideburn differ from their Takara counterparts. With X-Brawn he lacked tailights and headlights in car mode. The paints were ok but not quite as clean as the Takara versions. I was pissed. Fire Convoy and RID Prime are the same except the reds are darker on Fire Convoy, but they filled in the hole on the matirx for RID Prime.

CW is a repaint fest of the same 10 molds for the deluxes, and the same 4 voyager molds also share the same. Takara has made the line a bit more enjoyable with all the proper characters and added paint apps.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Genericon #378 wrote:

bvzxa wrote:

william-james88 wrote:While I am completely happy to see everyone liking Combiner Wars, objectively speaking this is not Hasbro's best line in terms of quality and value for your buck. For the same prices (counting inflation), the RID 2001 line gave us some insane engineering, heavy use of clear plastic, lots of paint, rubber wheels and projectiles. There was also the animated line which gave us amazing designs and very unique transformations. Then there was the Cybertron/Galaxy Force line which is probably the peak for style and simplicity for toys, making the toys perfect for both collectors and kids. Simple without it sacrificing anything, and loads of details (plus projectiles, clear plastic, nice paint jobs, big heavy toys, sounds and electronics ect).

There are lots more lines like this and the year 2010 was just insane. I cant believe that 6 years ago you could get HFTD Leader Starscream for the same price people are getting Leader Megatron or Ultra Magnus today, it feels like another era. Hell, forget Magnus, he cost the same as CW Leader Starscream. I think I am going to start a fit, call the men in the white coats!

While CW is a super fun line with an excellent combiner port system, there is less value when looking at the diversity in designs and materials, plus the lack of added value for the leader class toys. Doesnt mean its a bad line at all, it is leagues better than FOC. But I would not call this the golden age either. It was discussed more in depth here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=105951&p=1747589&hilit=golden+age#p1747479

In short, think about it guys, Classics Prime is a better voyager Prime figure than CW Prime and that toy came out 10 years ago.

You are speaking of RID, that was all Takara designs from one year before with Car Robots or "Transformers 2000" as it was unofficially dubbed on the internet because Car Robots would show up with Carrots in searches.

The RID versions of X-Brawn, Prowl , and Sideburn differ from their Takara counterparts. With X-Brawn he lacked tailights and headlights in car mode. The paints were ok but not quite as clean as the Takara versions. I was pissed. Fire Convoy and RID Prime are the same except the reds are darker on Fire Convoy, but they filled in the hole on the matirx for RID Prime.

CW is a repaint fest of the same 10 molds for the deluxes, and the same 4 voyager molds also share the same. Takara has made the line a bit more enjoyable with all the proper characters and added paint apps.

I don't want to start a war or anything, but......Takara does use the Combiner Wars molds. More then once.

And for the exact same reason as hasbro, their public wants all the cool additional heads/figures; we piss and moan, but forget that until now, they had to import rook, offroad, a/b, cyclonus, and any others that they wanted, that's not to mention all of the gen molds that TT skipped (sky shadow, among others), but the fact that they're doing the exact same combiner teams as hasbro means that they will be repainting just as many figures as hasbro did, in fact they did it first with slingshot and neck-brace, so I don't wanna hear it

shajaki wrote:Y'know. The complaints about the arms in shuttle mode.... I don't get. They don't look that out of place to me. They're not at intrusive as say, a certain autobot helicopter.

I mean Blades of course.
(Primus praise Alpha Bravo)