Hasbro launch vote tomorrow for G1 Reissue to launch in Spring 2020 in Walmart

I can't help but wonder if these will be VS two packs, but why are two Seekers against each other? Weird.

EDIT: ah, it's a bracket with only one release?

carytheone wrote:I can't help but wonder if these will be VS two packs, but why are two Seekers against each other? Weird.

Thundercracker did turn on the Decepticons and become an ally to the Autobots in IDW (even earning a punch to the face from Skywarp).

Sabrblade wrote:

carytheone wrote:I can't help but wonder if these will be VS two packs, but why are two Seekers against each other? Weird.

Thundercracker did turn on the Decepticons and become an ally to the Autobots in IDW (even earning a punch to the face from Skywarp).

Well I made an edit as you posted this. Maybe it's a bracket leading to a second and final vote?

Would they mix their G1 Kool-Aid with IDW Flavor Aid?

carytheone wrote:I can't help but wonder if these will be VS two packs, but why are two Seekers against each other? Weird.

Because Thundercracker has been a good guy in some fiction for years but also who cares if it means you can compete the original seeker trio.

Also it won’t be a two pack, it just decides the next two rereleases. Don’t need to start putting that crap in people’s heads. That’s how people thought mirage and impact or were being released even though no one anywhere said it would be a two pack.

Frankly, I don't think any of these four are good reissue choices. Both Perceptor and Astrotrain have been reissued by Hasbro within the last decade, and making us having to pick just one between Skywarp and Thundercracker means that if either of them wins then we'll be one member short of completing the Seeker trio with Starscream.

Of these choices, the only one of these I'd actually pick if I felt absolutely compelled to pick one would be Astrotrain but ONLY if it were to come not in his original 1985 Hasbro retail deco but in the never-released prototype deco first seen in the 1985 toy magazines that the cartoon animators used for reference in coloring Astrotrain's character model, as detailed at the end in this video (beginning just after the 6:00 mark):




Yes, I am aware of that e-HOBBY exclusive "Astrotrain Proto Color Version" that was meant to evoke the prototype deco, but the shades and hues of the gray and purple were off.

Sabrblade wrote:Frankly, I don't think any of these four are good reissue choices. Both Perceptor and Astrotrain have been reissued by Hasbro within the last decade, and making us having to pick just one between Skywarp and Thundercracker means that if either of them wins then we'll be one member short of completing the Seeker trio with Starscream.

Agreed

If it's cartoon colors Astrotrain that would be an excellent choice. Maybe one with a darker purple than the Takara attempt?

Anything else and this is a snoozer.

ScottyP wrote:If it's cartoon colors Astrotrain that would be an excellent choice. Maybe one with a darker purple than the Takara attempt?

Anything else and this is a snoozer.

If they keep the current trend up, who ever wins will be just like the last few. 100% G1 less the authentic styrofoam smell. I miss that smell.


I do kind of feel they are barking up the wrong tree with the reissues though. Both in character choices and distributor. What's their endgame? Just toss shit at a wall and see what sticks?


Wasn't Preceptor just released with Blaster (I spotted that release in bulk at a few salvage stores) and some weird color variants of Astrotrain and Blitzwing?

If they really wanted to move product, put out the seeker mold in new colors like Acid Storm or Red Wing.

My usual response would be to always bet on Skywarp, but their last Seeker reissue suffered significantly from what I like to call "mushface" and I'd rather not repeat that. That said, the other options aren't particularly interesting choices, either.

I find it hard to believe that any future Walmart reissues would be limited to one character, so I'm just gonna vote Skywarp, and hope for the best, both in terms of molding issues, and further reissues beyond the fan poll character being maybe something more exciting.

The only reissues that interest me at this point are Scourge, Cyclonus, the Dinobots, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

Yet I'm fully aware of the problems already in existence regarding this group: namely that the molds are gone. One could therefore correctly infer that I'm over reissues. Sad to say. I love G1, but I'm good.

Sigh... I really really really wish it was a bad joke that they are going to sell these through Walmart again. That was literally the worst buying experience ever. I had the same item canceled 7 times before I just bought it marked up on Ebay months later...

Cyclonus and Scourge might not be lost. We know they've kept track of Hot Rod, Rodimus Prime, Galvatron, Kup, and Wheelie, so it's possible they still know where Blurr, Springer, Wreck-Gar, Cyclonus, and Scourge are.

I would be down for a cyclonus reissue, I was gutted as a kid when the one I had finally gave in and had to be condemned to the bin. Though i was never sure if it was the target master version I had or if the target master belonged to hot rod

Even without being able to buy any of these, these are pretty poor choices.

RiddlerJ wrote:If they really wanted to move product, put out the seeker mold in new colors like Acid Storm or Red Wing.

YES!

Red Wing is never happening though. Funpub wouldn't milk the $eeker mold for it? Red Wing is dead forever

Optimutt wrote:The only reissues that interest me at this point are Scourge, Cyclonus, the Dinobots, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

Yet I'm fully aware of the problems already in existence regarding this group: namely that the molds are gone. One could therefore correctly infer that I'm over reissues. Sad to say. I love G1, but I'm good.

If they'll reverse engineer the Dino Cassettes of all things, I'd say anything is fair game again at this point. Maybe not for Walmart reissues though, I'm sure they have to keep the cost down.

Optimutt wrote:The only reissues that interest me at this point are Scourge, Cyclonus, the Dinobots, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

Yet I'm fully aware of the problems already in existence regarding this group: namely that the molds are gone. One could therefore correctly infer that I'm over reissues. Sad to say. I love G1, but I'm good.

Wait, there is something wrong with the cyclonus and scourge molds? I didnt know that.

ZeroWolf wrote:I would be down for a cyclonus reissue, I was gutted as a kid

You want me to gut Ultra Magnus?

What reissue do I want next?

How about that Bumblebee I ordered forever ago that got cancelled, walmart?

william-james88 wrote:

Optimutt wrote:The only reissues that interest me at this point are Scourge, Cyclonus, the Dinobots, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

Yet I'm fully aware of the problems already in existence regarding this group: namely that the molds are gone. One could therefore correctly infer that I'm over reissues. Sad to say. I love G1, but I'm good.

Wait, there is something wrong with the cyclonus and scourge molds? I didnt know that.

I guess that since we have never gotten a reissue of either Cyclonus or Scourge, I just assumed that the molds were lost. If they hadn't lost the molds, wouldn't they have reissued them at least once in the past 30 years?

Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

Caelus wrote:Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

Only Beast Machines Basic figures. Everything else is pretty easy to find still at decent prices.

And there is a ton of G1 stuff that was never rereleased that I wouldnt assume means lost. Like Overlord, for instance.

william-james88 wrote:

Caelus wrote:Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

Only Beast Machines Basic figures. Everything else is pretty easy to find still at decent prices.

And there is a ton of G1 stuff that was never rereleased that I wouldnt assume means lost. Like Overlord, for instance.

Overlord saw a 1991 release in Europe and Australasia with different purple plastic and rounded off shoulder spikes.

^That was technically a first release as far as that market and the European G1 line are concerned.

The Beast Wars reissues we probably most need are the Robot Masters versions of Optimus Primal and Megatron. Those are a bit thin on the ground.

Caelus wrote:Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

To be honest, not really. As much as I love Beast Wars, most of the originals are quite accessible already. If they're going to do BW I'd rather they made new figures.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Caelus wrote:Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

Only Beast Machines Basic figures. Everything else is pretty easy to find still at decent prices.

And there is a ton of G1 stuff that was never rereleased that I wouldnt assume means lost. Like Overlord, for instance.

Overlord saw a 1991 release in Europe and Australasia with different purple plastic and rounded off shoulder spikes.

Thats just the Hasbro release, and its still within the G1 era. I am talking about an actual reissue, like the ones we are talking about. A scorponok reissue would be fun too, same with the pretenders. A whole bunch of stuff was never reissued.

Pretty much anything, barring powermaster Prime, from 1987 onward could do with a re-release... I wonder if people would buy Action Masters if rereleased on the world.

Optimutt wrote:The only reissues that interest me at this point are Scourge, Cyclonus, the Dinobots, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

Yet I'm fully aware of the problems already in existence regarding this group: namely that the molds are gone. One could therefore correctly infer that I'm over reissues. Sad to say. I love G1, but I'm good.

And yet here we are with rare Dinobot cassette reissues in the Studio Series line. Never say never true believers!

You know what would get me excited about a G1 Perceptor reissue? A brand-spankin' new cartoon head, done in G1 toy style, so that Perceptor can finally have the face he so rightfully deserves after all of these years. How many reissues has there been of Perceptor over the years? It's time to do him up right with a new noggin' at long last.

I'm torn on Astrotrain. If they did true cartoon/prototype colors (not that silly lavender or light purple color Takara thinks makes purple cartoon accurate), not the e-Hobby colors, or if they did a straight up G1 toy color reissue (which has never been done before, then I'm game for him.

Hopefully we get some other "new" reissues that haven't been released before during the 18 year run of reissues so far.

I'm voting for Astrotrain.

Optimutt wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Optimutt wrote:The only reissues that interest me at this point are Scourge, Cyclonus, the Dinobots, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Mirage.

Yet I'm fully aware of the problems already in existence regarding this group: namely that the molds are gone. One could therefore correctly infer that I'm over reissues. Sad to say. I love G1, but I'm good.

Wait, there is something wrong with the cyclonus and scourge molds? I didnt know that.

I guess that since we have never gotten a reissue of either Cyclonus or Scourge, I just assumed that the molds were lost. If they hadn't lost the molds, wouldn't they have reissued them at least once in the past 30 years?

From observation, anything past Season 2 is a bit of a hit and miss, especially when it comes to popularity and thus demand. If the demand is there, Hasbro and TakaraTomy will go out of their way to locate the molds needed wherever they are.
For now tho they're assigned to figures/molds that have been reissued within the past 10 to 15 years because they're relatively readily accessible.

I have no interest in the jets, I have the Encore release with proper launchers so those don't interest me any. I passed on the most recent Perceptor because I don't need another Blaster and I really didn't want the funny colored Astrotrain from the other set so I'd be happy with either one getting a reissue, even if it means a plain black and white Astrotrain.

I'm surprised they aren't looking at Takara Tomy reissue they've never done before like the Combaticons, Galvatron (just pretend the gun mode doesn't exist on the packaging), Metroplex, Omega Supreme, or Skylynx. They'd be pricey, but seeing how well the Constructicons sold it should be perfectly fine.

Emerje

Hey, the Hasbro reissue jets have proper launchers too - they just have longer, bulkier gun missiles and dorky-looking small missiles as a consequence. You want improper launchers, go look at the vintage Hasbro Seekers and their launchers with springs too feeble to launch a straw wrapper (much less their missiles).

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hey, the Hasbro reissue jets have proper launchers too - they just have longer, bulkier gun missiles and dorky-looking small missiles as a consequence. You want improper launchers, go look at the vintage Hasbro Seekers and their launchers with springs too feeble to launch a straw wrapper (much less their missiles).

Speaking of improper missiles, that Perceptor's gun aint gonna launch.

Caelus wrote:Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

I would LOVE to see some Beast Wars reissues starting with gorilla Optimus Primal and T-Rex Megatron!!! It'd be a nice change of pace

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For now tho they're assigned to figures/molds that have been reissued within the past 10 to 15 years because they're relatively readily accessible.

Says who? Looks at G1 Dinosaur cassettes ...

Caelus wrote:Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

I'd be down, especially if Hasbro/Takara threw us a bone with some of the harder to find figures like X-9 Jaguar, the Blendtrons, TM2 Blackarachnia, and Killerpunch.

I personally would prefer some 1987 to 1989 reissues. As is, the only one here I would really want is Thundercracker

Seibertron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For now tho they're assigned to figures/molds that have been reissued within the past 10 to 15 years because they're relatively readily accessible.

Says who? Looks at G1 Dinosaur cassettes ...

Okay, but those aren't part of the regular reissue line.

NeonPrime wrote:

Caelus wrote:Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

I would LOVE to see some Beast Wars reissues starting with gorilla Optimus Primal and T-Rex Megatron!!! It'd be a nice change of pace

Hm.. On the one hand, those two aren't too hard to come by without being overly painful, plus as Ultra-class they're much larger than the show portrayed them; they have Shockwave syndrome. On the other hand, there's a lot of Optimus Primals out there minus accessories and even the gorilla head and we've yet to have someone fill the void Dark0v left so the likelihood of repro parts to patch them up is low and thus a fresh batch of replacements would probably be appreciated.

I think for scaling purposes it would be good to see a reissue of the Robot Masters versions, since those are fairly thin on the ground. I would also like a reissue of Universe/Henkei Dinobot because he is rarespensive.

As far as these 4 characters down, I'm only interested in them if there's some dramatic change. If they're straight up reissues then, "meh" I can't really be bothered. I've already got these figures in pretty decent condition.

Give me a white & black Astrotrain and I'm there.
Give me a Perceptor with a cartoon accurate head, I'll buy it.
Thundercracker & Skywarp will probably have the painted eyes that reissue Starscream had, but that's not enough--perhaps Thundercracker w/ Buster or Skywarp with a GI Joe. Sure, then I'll buy it.

But if it's just like the original... I've got those. No thanks.

I frankly think all of these should, but I guess I'd mostly want Perceptor. Hope they also release Soundwave as well.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Okay, but those aren't part of the regular reissue line.

But they are reissues, nonetheless. The point is that they can do whatever they want to do. Perhaps they decide to bring back Dinobots, Mirage, Wheeljack, Cyclonus, Scourge, Kup, Blurr, Springer ... whoever else they feel would be a good potential fit with the current sales climate.

I'm pretty confident Perceptor will be the people's choice. Guess we'll see

Seibertron wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Okay, but those aren't part of the regular reissue line.

But they are reissues, nonetheless. The point is that they can do whatever they want to do. Perhaps they decide to bring back Dinobots, Mirage, Wheeljack, Cyclonus, Scourge, Kup, Blurr, Springer ... whoever else they feel would be a good potential fit with the current sales climate.

1. JelZe was talking about the scope of the regular reissue line and what it's currently set to, though.
2. Mini-cassettes are probably substantially cheaper and easier to go to the effort of cutting brand-new replacement molds for because of their size and simplicity, plus at this time the Dino Cassettes have the benefit of having the Soundwave's-appearance-in-the-Bumblebee-movie hype train to ride.

i vote perceptor and astrotrain the seekers have been reissued to death already

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. JelZe was talking about the scope of the regular reissue line and what it's currently set to, though.

Again, says who? Hasbro has never made this statement before, as far as I'm aware. These appear to be fan assumptions passed off as fact. All of you are welcome to come to your own conclusions and make your own assumptions, but passing off those very assumptions as fact about whether or not Hasbro has stated something seems extremely inaccurate at best. To the best of my knowledge, Hasbro has never made any public statement about their scope about a reissue line and I highly doubt any of you are aware of what Hasbro and Takara's scope actually is. If they have and I'm incorrect, please provide links. Thanks.

Ultra Markus wrote:i vote perceptor and astrotrain the seekers have been reissued to death already

Astrotrain has had a few reissues as well.

Let's go with some late G1/G2 stuff. Particularly anything that had gold plastic.
RIP Pyro.

Caelus wrote:Question - Would anyone else like to see Beast Wars reissues?

YES, specifically all the Transmetals, with different chrome that doesn't flake!

Especially Megatron with non-GPS plastic, and Rampage because rubber treads don't have the greatest longevity, and I've heard horror stories of his legs cracking too.
(And although BotCon exclusives will surely never get reissues as such, any interest in that last mold might lead to high-quality KOs to replace flaky Shokaracts)

Just made a news post about Hot Rod at 50% off on Walmart.com. Get him here while you still can: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... art/42561/

Seibertron wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. JelZe was talking about the scope of the regular reissue line and what it's currently set to, though.

Again, says who? Hasbro has never made this statement before, as far as I'm aware. These appear to be fan assumptions passed off as fact. All of you are welcome to come to your own conclusions and make your own assumptions, but passing off those very assumptions as fact about whether or not Hasbro has stated something seems extremely inaccurate at best. To the best of my knowledge, Hasbro has never made any public statement about their scope about a reissue line and I highly doubt any of you are aware of what Hasbro and Takara's scope actually is. If they have and I'm incorrect, please provide links. Thanks.

Let's face it, we're all surprised the reissues are continuing when we had all assumed this was a one-and-done thing for the Bumblebee movie. We haven't got a clue what Hasbro is thinking, for all we know there's more coming in 2019.

As far as BW reissues go, there isn't much I want that I don't already have aside from maybe Dinbot and replacements for Grimlock and Magnaboss without the GPS.

Emerje