OptiMagnus10 wrote:MQ-9 Reaper wrote:I'm tired of it. I won't know what to believe until I see footage of the twins in a new trailer or I DON'T. I personally didn't want them back; I hated all of the humour in the second movie as it was very juvenile and made me uncomfortable when I was watching it with my family. I've never seen a more blatant stereotype than the Twins (especially aesthetically), and I just wish someone would run Wheelie over. Obviously the humour was supposed to appeal to a certain demographic - I'm 16, and I just felt offended, as if I was supposed to laugh at it just because I'm a 'young person'. ALL directors do this: once they realize that people are going to see the movie pretty much no matter what, they'll put whatever they want in there. I was greatly hoping that the Twins and Wheelie would be absent from this movie, but hey,
its not about what WE want.
Well, it seems we have something in common here. We're both 16 and hate toilet humour. But I actually liked the Twins. I think they're stereotyped, but not racist. I thought of them as "gangsta". To be honest, I know white guys that talk and act like them and black guys that don't- so I can't personally find racism. The Wheelie humping and all the sexual references could've been done away with, but hey, it is what it is. It doesn't effect the film the slightest bit for me. And yes, directors will do whatever they want. It's THEIR movie. THEY'RE the director of it. It's
not about what we want. It's what they think will sell. Unfortunately, these moviemakers have an impression that this toilet humor sells to young people. And, with the people that surround me every day, I see where they get that impression. We must also understand that Michael Bay isn't some dictator that specifies exactly how absolutely everything will go. He has writers, too, along with a myriad of other roles that come up with their own ideas.
Agreed. Directors in general, not just Michael Bay (although he doesn't help himself), use stuff that they think will sell. Bay doesn't think that teenagers and adults are going to go and see a film about transforming aliens based on toys, so he tries to make it appealing, with cars, "hot" girls and, in the second film, excessive toilet humour. I guess he assumes that that's what will sell to present day teenagers. Heck, it's like that with the Alvin and the Chipmunks movies - I saw the first one and it was terrible, ruined all of the saturday mornings of the original cartoon when I was a kid. But teenagers around me liked it (I wont go into name-calling and generalisations), because it was stupid, heartless "humour" that other teenagers seem to find funny. So I think that's the logic behind the testicle-bearing, leg-humping ROTF mess. He appears to have learnt from it though, so perhaps DOTM will be a bit better.
Anyway! I don't mind if the twins are in or out of this movie - so long as they don't get such a big role. The toys may be being made because their toys were relatively popular first time round (although Mudflap was a shelfwarmer, but we haven't seen any Deluxe toy yet). And as for the replacement buddies, maybe the Wreckers? I hate to admit it but remember that Bill Fagerbake is voicing one of them.
