Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream

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Would a tiny inexpensive Optimus Primal based off of the Kingdom mold interest you? Smol Monke anyone? Well, if that sounds fun, well we have some fun news for you. Below are images of the new Authentics toys released for 2023 in Taiwan. Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal and Bumblebee will be released at the Bravo size which is similar to core class, while a brand new larger Starscream along with a repacked Optimus Prime and Bumblebee will be available in Alpha class which is in between deluxe and voyager sized. For an idea of scale, you can check out the image of the boxes below. That Primal may be small and cheap but he does have a cute feature where his two guns can be used in his fists or as shoulder canons like in the cartoon. This is unrelated to the Rise of the Beasts film and serves more as a classic Optimus Primal made to be affordable for families shopping at places like Family Dollar. In Canada, these have been available at Canadian Tire.

We thank Zodiac1968340 who posted images here along with this post from CL Hobby.

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Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153026)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2023 @ 6:57pm CST

That Primal looks very, VERY good.
If I chance uppon it at Canadian Tire, I'll be sure to pick him up.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153027)
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2023 @ 7:23pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Primal looks very, VERY good.
If I chance uppon it at Canadian Tire, I'll be sure to pick him up.

Same here

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153028)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on January 4th, 2023 @ 7:30pm CST

It's funny how despite the whole point of Evergreen TFs being they can show up in ANY store with even the tiniest toy section, so many specific figures somehow end up being indigenous to just one chain, determined largely by country or even state/province.

Hope Primal comes Stateside, but if any Canadian Seibertronians want to trade for Authentics Arcee, just let me know and I'll find you one with the best paint job possible!

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153030)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2023 @ 7:58pm CST

Man, he actually looks pretty neat.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153037)
Posted by Cheetron on January 4th, 2023 @ 8:06pm CST

I haven't said this about a toy in what feels like forever, but I want primal. Bad. Lol

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153060)
Posted by Emerje on January 5th, 2023 @ 2:18am CST

Really like Starscream, it's a better looking figure than the Bravo version with the flat cockpit. He really looks a lot like the control art, just needs some more colors.

Primal looks great, though the blue on his chest looks like it was done with a spray can, lots of over paint. I wonder if he's too big to stand next to the small Transmetal Primal released in Japan.

Emerje

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153066)
Posted by griftimus prime on January 5th, 2023 @ 8:20am CST

primal looks alright

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153088)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on January 5th, 2023 @ 3:56pm CST

While I think it's weird this guy isn't seeing a Legacy release, I want him nonetheless. He'll look great next to my Core collection. I'm honestly hoping Hasbro keeps releasing characters in the Core class no matter the line, they're an excellent way to build up entire armies of figures when one can only afford the occasional larger figure.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153096)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on January 5th, 2023 @ 5:37pm CST

This is one of the few authentics toys I can appreciate. Kids toys can be good, see! But one question, why does he have guns instead of swords? Thinking like a kid swords would be cooler because they are unique for tfs.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153111)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 5th, 2023 @ 7:02pm CST

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:This is one of the few authentics toys I can appreciate. Kids toys can be good, see! But one question, why does he have guns instead of swords? Thinking like a kid swords would be cooler because they are unique for tfs.

That's because his shoulder canons serves a dual purpose here. So no extra budget for the swords.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2153118)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on January 5th, 2023 @ 8:24pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:This is one of the few authentics toys I can appreciate. Kids toys can be good, see! But one question, why does he have guns instead of swords? Thinking like a kid swords would be cooler because they are unique for tfs.

That's because his shoulder canons serves a dual purpose here. So no extra budget for the swords.

Still prefer the spinal swords.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2154040)
Posted by william-james88 on January 18th, 2023 @ 10:13pm CST

While the Authentics line is not covered heavily since it isn't part of any reveals and is not even meant for big box retailers, the Optimus Primal toy did interest fans since it works with the core class collection Hasbro has been setting up in the Generations lines. However, as you will see below, this is not a core class toy, size wise. It is between the core class and deluxe class, being almost as big as a Studio Series Bumblebee toy. We have two reviews below to give you a better look at the figure. We don't have more info regarding his availability since there is no set rule for where figures like these may end up or when they will show up in various markets.

From TF fan France who posted on Botposting.

Authentics bravo class Optimus Primal.
He's... actually pretty good. I expected this to be very hollow and weightless like the other ones from the same toyline, but no. It's the opposite.
He has a decent amount of articulation, NONE of the pieces have fallen off, he doesn't look very hollow except on his legs and a little on the arms, and he actually has weight.
The painting and sculpting are good.
The arms and legs can bend and because they're on a balljoint they can also swivel. The head can only look from side to side in robot mode and the gorilla head can only look up and down.
For the accessories he has two blasters which are stored on his back.
He unfortunately doesn't have his two swords.
I'd say it's a good Optimus Primal for those looking for cheap.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2154044)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 18th, 2023 @ 11:29pm CST

The hollow bits are less incongruous than I thought. The bot looks great, the gorilla looks great, and that transformation is quick and easy. If I ever see it at Canadian Tire, I'll pick him up for sure.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2154049)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on January 19th, 2023 @ 3:33am CST

I know producing reprolabels for evergreen figures would kind of defeat the point pricewise, but this Primal's chest is like a blue canvas BEGGING to be embellished! Have toyhax ever done that for Authentics?

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2154050)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 19th, 2023 @ 4:30am CST

Bumblevivisector wrote:I know producing reprolabels for evergreen figures would kind of defeat the point pricewise, but this Primal's chest is like a blue canvas BEGGING to be embellished! Have toyhax ever done that for Authentics?

No sets for any Authentics toys so far.

Not even 3D printed filler pieces or upgrade kits exist for any and those seriously needs them. Sure, those would also defeat the point of Authentics, but some designs are really good and could deserves the upgrade.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2154062)
Posted by Emerje on January 19th, 2023 @ 9:34am CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:I know producing reprolabels for evergreen figures would kind of defeat the point pricewise, but this Primal's chest is like a blue canvas BEGGING to be embellished! Have toyhax ever done that for Authentics?

No sets for any Authentics toys so far.

Not even 3D printed filler pieces or upgrade kits exist for any and those seriously needs them. Sure, those would also defeat the point of Authentics, but some designs are really good and could deserves the upgrade.

Shame that because some figures like Barricade are really good but terribly painted. He'd really benefit from window and door decals.

Emerje

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2154126)
Posted by TulioDude on January 20th, 2023 @ 5:38pm CST

He looks pretty good! Its an official downsizing of the Kingdom mold, it makes me wish to see
other charactes and molds receive the same "Authentics" treatment.

Day 1116 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2173253)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 6th, 2023 @ 6:07pm CST

Here's a video review of the Transformers Authentics Bravo Class OPTIMUS PRIMAL by Soundwave 8084 on YouTube:

This may be the best Bravo so far.

I NEED IT! :-(

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2173259)
Posted by Emerje on November 7th, 2023 @ 1:10am CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:This may be the best Bravo so far.

I NEED IT!

You might be right, that looks really good and big for a Bravo. Definitely need to keep an eye for these at the usual suspects (Five Below and Big Lots).

Emerje

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187667)
Posted by william-james88 on January 19th, 2025 @ 1:56pm CST

The Authentics Titan Changer line is still trucking along. It offers a very affordable option for popular Transformers characters at a larger scale with easy transformations. Shockwave will be joining the ranks as we can see from this listing from Hasbro. While it is the evergreen design, it's basically G1 Shockwave and while the alt mode is meant to be like the Siege toy (kinda), G1 fans will see how easily you can bring the arms down and basically make him a lazer gun.

Below you will see photos showing the robot mode, alt mode and even the converting instructions, enjoy!

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187669)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 19th, 2025 @ 2:08pm CST

"Transforms from Robot Mode to Nap Mode and back."

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187670)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 19th, 2025 @ 2:10pm CST

I appreciate the Authentic line for what it is and some of these figures are pretty nice.

But that Shockwave "transformation"...

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187674)
Posted by cloudballoon on January 19th, 2025 @ 3:19pm CST

This is illogical. Shockwave would never do the "Trust Fall" and leave his fate to anyone.

But other than that hilarity (but par for the course of the Titan Changer line, so no surprise nor sad/angry about it), it's actually a really good looking Shockwave.

FInally, wow, the money saved for the box art recycling Siege's must've saved Hasbro a tidy sum!

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187679)
Posted by Cheetron on January 19th, 2025 @ 7:09pm CST

He looks good. But do his knees bend or just turn?

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187680)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 19th, 2025 @ 7:16pm CST

Cheetron wrote:He looks good. But do his knees bend or just turn?

Doesn't look like they bend, so I doubt it. This line isn't known for including articulation that isn't necessary for transformation.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187681)
Posted by cloudballoon on January 19th, 2025 @ 11:13pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Cheetron wrote:He looks good. But do his knees bend or just turn?
Doesn't look like they bend, so I doubt it. This line isn't known for including articulation that isn't necessary for transformation.

But the upper legs are grey & lower legs are purple plastics. So there should be a joint there. Would be mighty stupid of Hasbro not to put ball joints at the knees rather than mushroom/pin joints.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187682)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 19th, 2025 @ 11:15pm CST

cloudballoon wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cheetron wrote:He looks good. But do his knees bend or just turn?
Doesn't look like they bend, so I doubt it. This line isn't known for including articulation that isn't necessary for transformation.

But the upper legs are grey & lower legs are purple plastics. So there should be a joint there. Would be mighty stupid of Hasbro not to put ball joints at the knees rather than mushroom/pin joints.

Yes, each leg is two pieces in order to let the lower legs rotate at the "knee" for the transformation.

Ball joints aren't used in these "shampoo bottle" lines.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187683)
Posted by cloudballoon on January 20th, 2025 @ 4:02am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cheetron wrote:He looks good. But do his knees bend or just turn?
Doesn't look like they bend, so I doubt it. This line isn't known for including articulation that isn't necessary for transformation.

But the upper legs are grey & lower legs are purple plastics. So there should be a joint there. Would be mighty stupid of Hasbro not to put ball joints at the knees rather than mushroom/pin joints.
Yes, each leg is two pieces in order to let the lower legs rotate at the "knee" for the transformation.

Ball joints aren't used in these "shampoo bottle" lines.

I see. That's too bad for articulation. Wouldn't add any cost to production to do so, I think, but I guess having mushroom joints at the knees help with the figure's stability.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187685)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 20th, 2025 @ 5:33am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Ball joints aren't used in these "shampoo bottle" lines.

Each and every bots of this line have ball joints. Even the Shockwave above, who have them in the shoulders. They just are not all over the figure.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187690)
Posted by Whifflefire on January 20th, 2025 @ 10:43am CST

Major Deja vu of discussions about the Cyber Battalion Shockwave from 2018 with the same knee quirk.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187694)
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 20th, 2025 @ 1:12pm CST

Cybertronian spanner mode?

Bulkhead I needed that! said no Wheeljack ever.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187695)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 20th, 2025 @ 1:16pm CST

Whifflefire wrote:Major Deja vu of discussions about the Cyber Battalion Shockwave from 2018 with the same knee quirk.

At least, this one make some efforts to look like an actual spaceship.

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187698)
Posted by DeathReviews on January 20th, 2025 @ 2:10pm CST

That's ONE of the laziest 'transformations' what I ever did see. It really is just the robot mode keeled over on its back. Glad I don't collect any of THESE things - I experience enough disappointment already...

Re: Images of Upcoming New Core Sized Optimus Primal and Alpha Starscream (2187754)
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 21st, 2025 @ 12:12pm CST

news article out in UK how half the toy sales last year were toys under £15, maybe thats why hasbro makes messes like this when they could be releasing deluxes back at ye olden day prices