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In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Posted by william-james88 Aug 22, 2016 at 1:36pm CDT 37,629 views
Fellow Seibertronian Blacklai has taken some very nice shots of the new Takara Unite Warriors Computron figure, including the bonus Takara exclusive art in the instructions as well as comparison shots between the Hasbro counterparts to each component. There are also comparison shots for the new tooling, exclusive to Takara, on Nosecone Strafe which show them next to the original molds. There are also up close images of the new head sculpts, three of which are exclusive to Takara. We can see that some of the visors and eyes have a dark outline, probably due to shadow, which was not clear on previous images. You can click here for even more images.

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version


Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

Transformers News: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version

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Re: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version (view post)
Comment by Decepticon Stryker Aug 22, 2016
Can we have comparison shots of all three Scattorshots?
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Comment by WeatherManNX01 Aug 22, 2016
In the last seven years of collecting, this is the first time picking up the Takara version of a figure. Based on the pictures, I'm not expecting any regrets.
Re: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version (view post)
Comment by Evil Eye Aug 22, 2016
Hasbro Scattershot has the nicer vehicle deco. Takara wins in every other respect.

Hasbro Afterburner's deco looks good- the green windscreen is a nice touch- but Takara wins with the new guns- also Takara's deco is more harmonious with the overall colour scheme.

Both Strafes look good. Hasbro Strafe has a nice 80s retro space fighter look to him ala Gradius. Takara Strafe has a more futuristic, elegant look to him. In robot mode, Takara looks a tad better maybe? However, what really pushes the Takara set that little bit further is the clean white as opposed to the dirty grey colour of the Hasbro offering.

Hasbro Lightspeed is possibly the worst CW redeco thus far. And in a line that has Smokescreen, CW Wheeljack and UW Dragstrip that's saying something. It doesn't look like the character and it doesn't look good. Takara Lightspeed, whilst based on a less solid mold, is pretty much a victor by default. Hasbro Lightspeed doesn't even look good as a generic- he looks like an animation error.

Hasbro Nosecone actually isn't that bad. I'd buy him as an Autobot generic. Takara Nosecone however is a clear winner as Nosecone, given the vastly superior drill, nicer colours and being based on Rook.

Hasbro Scrounge wins on account of Takara Scrounge not existing.

In terms of combined mode, Takara wins hands down. Hasbro Computron has Silverbolt's gun molded in red whilst Takara gets an original combining weapon. The colours are nicer on the Takara version and there's more original tooling (the head and chest in particular). Whilst Hasbro does have new hands and feet...they suck. The hands are lumps with zero articulation (even the hand-foot-guns had finger flaps) and the feet are completely hollow, which doesn't bode well for their stability. Granted you could fill the feet's gaping voids with fishing weights or make some metal fillers on Shapeways, but really they shouldn't have been hollow in the first place. Whilst Takara does have reused HFGs, they make better hands than the dedicated hands- as feet they aren't great but they're not much worse than the hollow messes the Hasbro one comes with. In any case, if you're getting a CW combiner you should buy the PE hands and feet (do NOT buy Nonnef's feet- they WILL break the ports) so it's something of a moot point.

So yeah. Hasbro Computron is a good source of generic Autobots (and of course Scrounge!) but for the definitive official Technobots? Buy the Takara version. Now as it happens I'm probably gonna track down a Quantron, as I'm sold on Maketoys after Guardia, but if I do go official it'll be Takara with PE hands and feet.
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Comment by DeadCaL Aug 22, 2016
Why did Takara go to all that effort only to give him the standard goofy hands and feet? The Hasbro one has a much more imposing stance at least.
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Comment by william-james88 Aug 22, 2016
DeadCaL wrote:Why did Takara go to all that effort only to give him the standard goofy hands and feet? The Hasbro one has a much more imposing stance at least.

The Hasbro ones might look better, but they are far less functional.

Delta Magnus wrote: Whilst Hasbro does have new hands and feet...they suck. The hands are lumps with zero articulation (even the hand-foot-guns had finger flaps) and the feet are completely hollow, which doesn't bode well for their stability. Granted you could fill the feet's gaping voids with fishing weights or make some metal fillers on Shapeways, but really they shouldn't have been hollow in the first place. Whilst Takara does have reused HFGs, they make better hands than the dedicated hands- as feet they aren't great but they're not much worse than the hollow messes the Hasbro one comes with.
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Comment by RiddlerJ Aug 22, 2016
On a side note, this reminds me. Has anyone heard if Takara Blast Off is getting a solo release like Groove did?
Re: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Aug 22, 2016
DeadCaL wrote:Why did Takara go to all that effort only to give him the standard goofy hands and feet?
Because the Takara one is a standard, ordinary release while Hasbro's is an uber special bells-and-whistles special treatment release.

For Hasbro, their releasing Computron is a huge deal. For Takara, their releasing Computron is just standard procedure.
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Comment by Decepticon Stryker Aug 22, 2016
RiddlerJ wrote:On a side note, this reminds me. Has anyone heard if Takara Blast Off is getting a solo release like Groove did?

Unfortunately I think it's an exclusive to the Bruticus set. Unless a third party decides to send some help our way. Or if Takara decides to be generous, which they have been with Groove so there is a small chance.
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Comment by william-james88 Aug 22, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:
DeadCaL wrote:Why did Takara go to all that effort only to give him the standard goofy hands and feet?
Because the Takara one is a standard, ordinary release while Hasbro's is an uber special bells-and-whistles special treatment release.

For Hasbro, their releasing Computron is a huge deal. For Takara, their releasing Computron is just standard procedure.

Interesting way to look at it, and it makes sense since his Hasbro release is unlike any other standard Scramble City release.

RiddlerJ wrote:On a side note, this reminds me. Has anyone heard if Takara Blast Off is getting a solo release like Groove did?

There is currently no indication that he will get a Hasbro release.
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Comment by Sabrblade Aug 22, 2016
Image

Father's Day! Featuring Energon Cake and Energon Champagne.

The girl seen here is Sue, daughter of Marissa Faireborn, who apparently got busy with Dirk Manus after all.
Re: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version (view post)
Comment by Kurona Aug 22, 2016
Oh huh, I didn't notice Takara Scattershot had his robot mode chest remolded too. That's pretty cool.

But yeah, I still love the Takara version way more. For a lot of other combiners it's often a bit of uncertainty which company's is better in my eyes, but Computicon is just better in every way aside from not having Scrounge.
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Comment by william-james88 Aug 22, 2016
Kurona wrote:Oh huh, I didn't notice Takara Scattershot had his robot mode chest remolded too. That's pretty cool.


His knees too

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Re: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version (view post)
Comment by Kurona Aug 22, 2016
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Oh huh, I didn't notice Takara Scattershot had his robot mode chest remolded too. That's pretty cool.


His knees too

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Not bad at all. It's the subtle little changes that really help and make this set good. AS WELL AS A NEW COMBINER HEAD
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Comment by o.supreme Aug 22, 2016
I know this probably sounds like an overly simplistic question...But I wonder if anyone from Hasbro or Takara has ever been asked why their design teams do not work together? Especially since their product is manufactured in the same place. I know there are probably a lot of obstacles that maybe would make it not-so-appealing. But in this day and age, all those obstacles can be overcome. Sure, perhaps even 20 years ago when online shopping was just in its infancy, and fandom on both sides were jus barely starting to connect, most would have no idea, or care about differences in toys from other regions. But now things are different, and the differences in Hasbro's Computron and Takara's is a prime (no pun intended) example. Thanks to 3rd party vendors, fans have more access than ever before to Takara's product (often favoring it for one reason or another). But Takara does not profit from purchases made by non-Japanese consumers, and one could argue that Hasbro's profit it effected by so many consumers choosing "foreign" product over their own. Yet...if both teams had worked together on this project (for good or ill) , there would be only one, and at least, the argument of "which is better" would not have to be debated.
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Comment by Hellscream9999 Aug 22, 2016
o.supreme wrote:I know this probably sounds like an overly simplistic question...But I wonder if anyone from Hasbro or Takara has ever been asked why their design teams do not work together? Especially since their product is manufactured in the same place. I know there are probably a lot of obstacles that maybe would make it not-so-appealing. But in this day and age, all those obstacles can be overcome. Sure, perhaps even 20 years ago when online shopping was just in its infancy, and fandom on both sides were jus barely starting to connect, most would have no idea, or care about differences in toys from other regions. But now things are different, and the differences in Hasbro's Computron and Takara's is a prime (no pun intended) example. Thanks to 3rd party vendors, fans have more access than ever before to Takara's product (often favoring it for one reason or another). But Takara does not profit from purchases made by non-Japanese consumers, and one could argue that Hasbro's profit it effected by so many consumers choosing "foreign" product over their own. Yet...if both teams had worked together on this project (for good or ill) , there would be only one, and at least, the argument of "which is better" would not have to be debated.

They do, except that all of hasbro's designs have to stay within a budgetary restriction, which doesn't seem very high at this point, whereas TT will produce a figure and then market it at the price needed to manufacture it, if they're not satisfied with the hasbro design. This is why the price's for their products tend to be all over the place as compared to hasbro's standard prices.
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Comment by RAR Aug 22, 2016
I suppose the Hasbro Lightsteed (Lightspeed) is a good stand in for the Motorvator Lightspeed.

It may take me a while But I will try to get both sets I'll also try to get Quantron and the forthcoming Machine Boy version too. If I happen to trip over the other ones I'll consider that/those too.

Quantron I'd like for the individual robot modes though as I like them a lot.
I like CW/UW enough to have an interest in them but not enough to change my planned order of buying which is for the next couple of months going to be very Third Party, add ons & KO focused - Then I'll try to get some UK stuff if and when it shows up say November time.

People tend to dump older lines so I'm already seeing people off-loading CW so I have no huge need to chase it yet it is ultimately a Novelty line that may or may not have medium term interest depending on what they do with Prime Wars part 3.

I might like them more long term though as I slowly chip away at them with add ons and such. at the moment most of them don't really stand up to replacing the classics versions - besides they are likely to spend long periods all combined anyway.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal Aug 22, 2016
Really really really cannot wait for this set to come out. I am hyped for it!
Re: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version (view post)
Comment by Fox Thiagarajan Aug 22, 2016
UW Computron looks amazing. I'm liking the looks of Strafe the most. That sleek alt mode. :D :BOT:
Re: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version (view post)
Comment by fenrir72 Aug 22, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Image

Father's Day! Featuring Energon Cake and Energon Champagne.

The girl seen here is Sue, daughter of Marissa Faireborn, who apparently got busy with Dirk Manus after all.


Energon cake? So the must be energon yeast too? :lol:
Re: In Depth Comparison Images for Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron and Hasbro Version (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Aug 22, 2016
o.supreme wrote:I know this probably sounds like an overly simplistic question...But I wonder if anyone from Hasbro or Takara has ever been asked why their design teams do not work together?

I dont understand how people can think Takara and Hasbro have not worked on Computron together when they have the same bloody toy in both of their sets:

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So they both magically came up with the same retool without talking to eachother?
No, it was confirmed by Hasbro in an interview I posted a few times that Hasbro was well aware of the plans for Computron and that it didnt suit what they wanted to do. They picked a few elements (like afterburner) but dealt with the rest a different way.

Hasbro and Takara work together constantly to the point where it is sometimes hard to know who did what. Its a really cool relationship.

But Takara does not profit from purchases made by non-Japanese consumers

Takara makes a profit from every Takara product sold, why would that not be the case? Do you think BBTS got their Unite Warrior toys for free? I am not Japanese but I made an order and gave money to Anime Export, which used it to order Computron from Takara. Its the same thing that happens if you buy a Hasbro product from a BBTS. They pay hasbro, you pay them.
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