In-Package Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Legends Huffer and Blackjack
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Comment by Bounti76
Dec 3, 2014
Is this going to be the European packaging? The multilingual blurbs would suggest yes, as do the included cards with the Legends game artwork. If it is for the U.S., I'm not a fan of the truncated bios.
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I knew it! I thought that was blast-off since it was announced back at comic-con. It just looks too much like a shuttle, and too little like any of the other aerialbots.
In extension of this, the hands look like they share the same blue colour palette as the torso, rather than being purple ala dragstrip.
Bruticus confirmed for Wave 4
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The on package information points to these being boxes that will be distributed in brazil and australia
Comment by MemphisR56
Dec 3, 2014
Emerje wrote:
Except Prime's arm is clearly not a car, you can see a tail fin sticking off the back and it has no wheels. The shape isn't even a little right for Dragstrip, it's more in line with the square-ish body of G1 Blast Off. The side panels look like folded down wings to me (you can see flaps on the back) as well and they're on the back portion just like they would be on a shuttle. The gun on the back of the arm and the hand part also aren't the ones that comes with Dragstrip, notice that Alpha Bravo's hand is faithfully reproduced from the figure. As far as color goes I think it's entirely possible that they changed them to Dragstrip's when they realized it was much too early to reveal a third team and Dragstrip just happened to be the fourth figure of the first wave. When the other three limbs are so accurate to the figures how could the mess up Dragstrip so badly? Answer: It's not Dragstrip.
Emerje
I knew it! I thought that was blast-off since it was announced back at comic-con. It just looks too much like a shuttle, and too little like any of the other aerialbots.
In extension of this, the hands look like they share the same blue colour palette as the torso, rather than being purple ala dragstrip.
Bruticus confirmed for Wave 4
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Bounti wrote:Is this going to be the European packaging? The multilingual blurbs would suggest yes, as do the included cards with the Legends game artwork. If it is for the U.S., I'm not a fan of the truncated bios.
The on package information points to these being boxes that will be distributed in brazil and australia
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Comment by Sabrblade
Dec 3, 2014
From what source?Cobotron wrote:The dinobot thing is a real rumor.
Huffer's artwork is based on the previous Reveal the Shield Legends Optimus Prime toy instead of the Generations Legends Optimus that the actual Huffer toy is a remold of. Oops.Va'al wrote:
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Dec 3, 2014
It's still not confirmed, after all how do we know that Bruticus may have been intended but then dropped, hence the re colouration into drag strip. After all that prime combines with the rest of the first wave so where is blast off unless he got kicked for menasor.
Another simple reason could be that the artist made a boo boo, and drew the wrong bot
Plus I'd rather predaking or piranhacon
Another simple reason could be that the artist made a boo boo, and drew the wrong bot
Plus I'd rather predaking or piranhacon
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Comment by william-james88
Dec 3, 2014
Guys, you do know that the Optimus drawing is a fantasy situation right? And not supposed to be taken as a toy accurate interpretation of Combiner Wars? The fact that the colour scheme mimics perfectly the suggested Optimus Combination for Ultra Prime (in back of his box) makes it clear that it's this they are doing and not an indication that Bruticus is coming.
In any case, we already had a generations Bruticus.
In any case, we already had a generations Bruticus.
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Comment by Lockdownhunter
Dec 3, 2014
Two thumbs UP!
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Comment by GuyIncognito
Dec 3, 2014
Huffer is kind of boring. It doesn't really look like Huffer; it just looks like an orange Optimus. But Blackjack looks awesome! (I'm a sucker for any black and purple TF.)
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Dec 3, 2014
Huffer suffers a bit in the head-size department, but I'll wait on how he looks in-hand. Poor Optimus though, his body is being used left and right for other characters:
- Ultra Magnus
- Nemesis Prime
- Motormaster
- Huffer
At least the last two are retools.
Blackjack is a must-get, I love Micromaster homages.
- Ultra Magnus
- Nemesis Prime
- Motormaster
- Huffer
At least the last two are retools.
Blackjack is a must-get, I love Micromaster homages.
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Comment by Va'al
Dec 3, 2014
Isn't the artwork from the Legends game? Would that not explain the 'mix-up'?
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I don't think they are done yet. With Huffer out, I bet Pipes is in the works as well.
Comment by shockblast2
Dec 3, 2014
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Huffer suffers a bit in the head-size department, but I'll wait on how he looks in-hand. Poor Optimus though, his body is being used left and right for other characters:
- Ultra Magnus
- Nemesis Prime
- Motormaster
- Huffer
At least the last two are retools.
Blackjack is a must-get, I love Micromaster homages.
I don't think they are done yet. With Huffer out, I bet Pipes is in the works as well.
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Comment by william-james88
Dec 3, 2014
Blackjack is awesome.
I realized something about this line that may be a smart move on Hasbro. Of course, they are claiming to older fans with this amazing G1 combiner homage. But also, by making it combiners, the incentive to buy these toys at full retail is increased. Waiting for toys to be discounted is something many older fans do (myself included). Add to that the fact that not all of us buy everything from a given line. I usually buy 2 out of the 4 of every generations wave due to a want to limit mold duplication in my collection. But now, with the fact that these are all pieces of a bigger puzzle (the legends class included), I would be buying the entire wave and probably at full retail price since I fear that waiting for a discount is a risk of not getting the whole set. A pretty smart move on Hasbro's behalf. So not only will I be giving Hasbro more money than ever next year with this line, but I will also be really happy of not having to pay a bigger sum for the Third Party combiners, and of actually owning some awesome Transformer Combiners. This Combiner Wars event is a real win win for Hasbro and fans, hats off to them.
I realized something about this line that may be a smart move on Hasbro. Of course, they are claiming to older fans with this amazing G1 combiner homage. But also, by making it combiners, the incentive to buy these toys at full retail is increased. Waiting for toys to be discounted is something many older fans do (myself included). Add to that the fact that not all of us buy everything from a given line. I usually buy 2 out of the 4 of every generations wave due to a want to limit mold duplication in my collection. But now, with the fact that these are all pieces of a bigger puzzle (the legends class included), I would be buying the entire wave and probably at full retail price since I fear that waiting for a discount is a risk of not getting the whole set. A pretty smart move on Hasbro's behalf. So not only will I be giving Hasbro more money than ever next year with this line, but I will also be really happy of not having to pay a bigger sum for the Third Party combiners, and of actually owning some awesome Transformer Combiners. This Combiner Wars event is a real win win for Hasbro and fans, hats off to them.
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Comment by RiddlerJ
Dec 3, 2014
It's a shame the partners are no longer included with the Legends. They weren't great but it was still an extra toy and character (Reflector finally returns).
They could've redecoed the existing ones to get a little more mileage out of them. I wouldn't have minded.
Thundercracker with BW Buzzsaw (Waspinator redeco)
Huffer with Moonrock (Roller redeco)
Bombshell with Needler (Chop Shop redeco)
Powerglide with Phaser (Payload redeco)
Windcharger with Groundpounder (Groundbuster redeco)
Blackjack with Treadshot (Reflector redeco)
They could've redecoed the existing ones to get a little more mileage out of them. I wouldn't have minded.
Thundercracker with BW Buzzsaw (Waspinator redeco)
Huffer with Moonrock (Roller redeco)
Bombshell with Needler (Chop Shop redeco)
Powerglide with Phaser (Payload redeco)
Windcharger with Groundpounder (Groundbuster redeco)
Blackjack with Treadshot (Reflector redeco)
Re: In-Package Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Legends Huffer and Blackjack
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You know what I like to do? Get you a Target Redcard. Buy them at normal price. Since Target allows returns up to 90 days, if you EVER see them on sale, then just use your normal debit card to pay for them on sale, and then return them on your Redcard for the full refund.
I have saved a LOT at retail. Especially with those situations where you buy two or three at full price one week, and then the next week they are on sale.
Last year, I had bought GEN Thundercracker and Hoist at full price for 12.99 back in OCT. In DEC, Amazon was selling them both for an astounding $4 each. I bought both and returned them to Target for a refund of my $13, effectively making my price $4.
Comment by shockblast2
Dec 3, 2014
william-james88 wrote:Blackjack is awesome.
I realized something about this line that may be a smart move on Hasbro. Of course, they are claiming to older fans with this amazing G1 combiner homage. But also, by making it combiners, the incentive to buy these toys at full retail is increased. Waiting for toys to be discounted is something many older fans do (myself included). Add to that the fact that not all of us buy everything from a given line. I usually buy 2 out of the 4 of every generations wave due to a want to limit mold duplication in my collection. But now, with the fact that these are all pieces of a bigger puzzle (the legends class included), I would be buying the entire wave and probably at full retail price since I fear that waiting for a discount is a risk of not getting the whole set. A pretty smart move on Hasbro's behalf. So not only will I be giving Hasbro more money than ever next year with this line, but I will also be really happy of not having to pay a bigger sum for the Third Party combiners, and of actually owning some awesome Transformer Combiners. This Combiner Wars event is a real win win for Hasbro and fans, hats off to them.
You know what I like to do? Get you a Target Redcard. Buy them at normal price. Since Target allows returns up to 90 days, if you EVER see them on sale, then just use your normal debit card to pay for them on sale, and then return them on your Redcard for the full refund.
I have saved a LOT at retail. Especially with those situations where you buy two or three at full price one week, and then the next week they are on sale.
Last year, I had bought GEN Thundercracker and Hoist at full price for 12.99 back in OCT. In DEC, Amazon was selling them both for an astounding $4 each. I bought both and returned them to Target for a refund of my $13, effectively making my price $4.
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I agree. And I surely hope they are not keeping the price @$10, since we are getting screwed out of a figure.
Comment by shockblast2
Dec 3, 2014
RiddlerJ wrote:It's a shame the partners are no longer included with the Legends. They weren't great but it was still an extra toy and character (Reflector finally returns).
They could've redecoed the existing ones to get a little more mileage out of them. I wouldn't have minded.
Thundercracker with BW Buzzsaw (Waspinator redeco)
Huffer with Moonrock (Roller redeco)
Bombshell with Needler (Chop Shop redeco)
Powerglide with Phaser (Payload redeco)
Windcharger with Groundpounder (Groundbuster redeco)
Blackjack with Treadshot (Reflector redeco)
I agree. And I surely hope they are not keeping the price @$10, since we are getting screwed out of a figure.
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Comment by Noideaforaname
Dec 3, 2014
As cool as it was to get an extra figure, more often than not I didn't like the pairings they came up with. Cosmos and Payload was the only time I wanted both.
And ~$10 2-Packs have always done horribly at my stores. PCCs, HA Basics, Data Discs, Legends... 1st wave clogs the shelves and never EVER leaves.
But then these things are staying at $10, soooo....
And ~$10 2-Packs have always done horribly at my stores. PCCs, HA Basics, Data Discs, Legends... 1st wave clogs the shelves and never EVER leaves.
But then these things are staying at $10, soooo....
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Dec 3, 2014
You've got to be kidding me... I read about a possible repaint opportunity for Blackjack, and one that's a bit out of left field:
Throttlebot Searchlight
The head sculpt is spot on. And why didn't I see that? I have that toy!
Throttlebot Searchlight
The head sculpt is spot on. And why didn't I see that? I have that toy!
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Comment by padfoo
Dec 3, 2014
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I agree, that's probably an better example of orcams razor. People are only saying about Bruticus because of rumours about defensor and that alpha Bravo is an helicopter
Comment by ZeroWolf
Dec 3, 2014
william-james88 wrote:Guys, you do know that the Optimus drawing is a fantasy situation right? And not supposed to be taken as a toy accurate interpretation of Combiner Wars? The fact that the colour scheme mimics perfectly the suggested Optimus Combination for Ultra Prime (in back of his box) makes it clear that it's this they are doing and not an indication that Bruticus is coming.
In any case, we already had a generations Bruticus.
I agree, that's probably an better example of orcams razor. People are only saying about Bruticus because of rumours about defensor and that alpha Bravo is an helicopter
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Wow, I just learnt about Orcam's razor, this site sure has some educated people around.
Comment by william-james88
Dec 3, 2014
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:Guys, you do know that the Optimus drawing is a fantasy situation right? And not supposed to be taken as a toy accurate interpretation of Combiner Wars? The fact that the colour scheme mimics perfectly the suggested Optimus Combination for Ultra Prime (in back of his box) makes it clear that it's this they are doing and not an indication that Bruticus is coming.
In any case, we already had a generations Bruticus.
I agree, that's probably an better example of orcams razor. People are only saying about Bruticus because of rumours about defensor and that alpha Bravo is an helicopter
Wow, I just learnt about Orcam's razor, this site sure has some educated people around.
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Although, I think a Dinobot team would be cool. I'm playing catch up on the comics, but where is Grimlok now? This would be a good reason to bring him back.
I feel like Hasbro might want to keep riding the Dinobot wave. Every toy maker knows Dinosaurs +anything=$$$$$
Good eye Sabr B. That is totally the mini Prime.
In regards to the Ultra Prime illustration, I think it's important not to take the art for verbatim. If you look over 30 years of box art you will find a lot of inconsistencies through "artist's interpretation". (This, coming from a guy who just tried to start a rumor )
I think this mold almost makes a better Huffer than a Prime. He fits right into the classics line up. I'm so glad they are finally doing the mini's. Pipes is a no brainer.
Comment by Cobotron
Dec 3, 2014
Sabrblade, you got me. The source was my imagination. I just think it's awesome that this thread has 26 pages consisting of 92% speculation. I wanted to keep that ball rolling.Sabrblade wrote:From what source?Cobotron wrote:The dinobot thing is a real rumor.
Although, I think a Dinobot team would be cool. I'm playing catch up on the comics, but where is Grimlok now? This would be a good reason to bring him back.
I feel like Hasbro might want to keep riding the Dinobot wave. Every toy maker knows Dinosaurs +anything=$$$$$
Sabrblade wrote:Huffer's artwork is based on the previous Reveal the Shield Legends Optimus Prime toy instead of the Generations Legends Optimus that the actual Huffer toy is a remold of. Oops.Va'al wrote:
Good eye Sabr B. That is totally the mini Prime.
In regards to the Ultra Prime illustration, I think it's important not to take the art for verbatim. If you look over 30 years of box art you will find a lot of inconsistencies through "artist's interpretation". (This, coming from a guy who just tried to start a rumor
)I think this mold almost makes a better Huffer than a Prime. He fits right into the classics line up. I'm so glad they are finally doing the mini's. Pipes is a no brainer.
