Perhaps. He just seems different than all of the other figures in the line, with less battle damage and greeble.Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
Autobot N wrote:Perhaps. He just seems different than all of the other figures in the line, with less battle damage and greeble.Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
fenrir72 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:fenrir72 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Just because you say it that then with a magic wand THINK with a uniform singular thought?
SW cost Hb a chunk in franchising fees. The highest. Higher than Marvel. No need to get a PhD in economics to know that the y had to recoup their investments.
The units didn't sell. It took a big chunk of their profit margins.The potential money to be used for further R & D.
How do you fill up that big GAP? Loans? Hopefully the interest rates are low.
And Price increases. To offset the costs. No politics there. Simple neutral economics.
Just hope Hb doesn't squeeze the "golden goose" aka the Man Babies who buy TF with disposable income too much. Or, well okay with the price increases so long as the quality ain't sacrificed (hollow legs, shins, arms etc......)
Um, He said Star Wars was noted as underperforming, but TFs still good. The price increase brings this line on par with Studio Series, which as far as I'm and many others are concerned are doing pretty good and are generally on the whole worth it.
You keep bringing up this sort of thing, but I have yet to see any solid evidence with you, and it tends to be more rambling and more shameful personal opinions, some of which doesn't make sense. You keep comparing to Star Wars, but Star Wars has suffered far more than the TFs, and far more weight has been put on them.
The price increase is the price of things going up, and honestly, saying Sideswipe, Cog, an Infinity War Thor, and Black Series Rey all cost the same isn't that bad, especially with how much more the TFs actually do.
Check my post. What is applicable to Sears and TRU is applicable to Hasbro. I posted a link on a business focused site.
If you choose not to see then ...tough!
I have seen, and it's still been far from reputable. You have yet to provide hard, unbiased evidence from reputable sources that clearly show that Hasbro's transformers are in major trouble, considering they have been named by Hasbro recently as being the best growing brand over the past 2 years, while Star Wars has been the disappointment, probably because too much in too short of time and too overloaded with figures that a lot of people don't want.
Heck, look at RiD and it's connections to the mobile game. The show was alright, it had a long toyline that was successful and churned out some great stuff, and it connected to the mobile game, all nice and connected.
These figures are simply a product of times and they are moving up to the Studio Series level, and I won't be too disappointed in the price hike considering I have been getting some awesome figures consistently over the past 4 years, and that trend looks to continue. and I like the way they have the waves set up since we are now again away from combiners so I can pick more and feel like I don't need to get them all to form a bigger guy.
In short, your original post was a ramble once more, and here we have cool figures simply catching up in price to other brands, and Transformers has shown no sign of suffering from economics or whatever, seeing as how we do now have 3 solid lines, 4 if you count SS and Bee as separate, and tey are all doing well and hitting their targets
Business Insider not reputable? Talk about selective processing of business facts.
Yup. Such situations where suppliers like Hasbro will continue on selling items to stores that can't pay. That's a very "profitable business model" alright............like in Venezuela or NK!
Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
Randomhero wrote:Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
No. I think Hasbro probably said “We really don’t have that many decepticons left to remake and there weren’t a lot of them in season one so let’s finish up some of the teams we’ve already been doing”
There wasn’t anything to gut and Hasbro was pretty open that POTP was going to be short from the start. Just look at him. There’s nothing that show there were two robots even on a blueprint stance. I think hasbro just decided to make the fans happy and finish the Duocons. Not every team is completed in the same line. Took 4 years to complete the Autobot triple changers and 6 years to get a retail thundercracker in the classics mold. Not everything get out in the same line and siege is very much not leftovers of POTP
Burn wrote:Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
nah, very reliable source said to me (and other staff) over a year ago that Flywheels was going to be this way.
I just hope they do Siege Battletrap and right the injustice of POTP Battletrap.
Skritz wrote:Randomhero wrote:Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
No. I think Hasbro probably said “We really don’t have that many decepticons left to remake and there weren’t a lot of them in season one so let’s finish up some of the teams we’ve already been doing”
There wasn’t anything to gut and Hasbro was pretty open that POTP was going to be short from the start. Just look at him. There’s nothing that show there were two robots even on a blueprint stance. I think hasbro just decided to make the fans happy and finish the Duocons. Not every team is completed in the same line. Took 4 years to complete the Autobot triple changers and 6 years to get a retail thundercracker in the classics mold. Not everything get out in the same line and siege is very much not leftovers of POTP
Just because POTP was short doesn't mean there aren't potentially leftover designs. It's entirely possible that Battletrap wasn't even a POTP design himself and could, for all we know, have begun his existence as far back as T30. There's always more toy concepts at the drawing board than there is which even reach prototype and even less which make it to retail.
Look at TR Alpha Trion. Concept art existed from before the Prime Wars which itself was based off older stuff.
Randomhero wrote:Do you even need one?
Burn wrote:Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
nah, very reliable source said to me (and other staff) over a year ago that Flywheels was going to be this way.
I just hope they do Siege Battletrap and right the injustice of POTP Battletrap.
Burn wrote:Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
nah, very reliable source said to me (and other staff) over a year ago that Flywheels was going to be this way.
I just hope they do Siege Battletrap and right the injustice of POTP Battletrap.
Skritz wrote:Anyone think he's a POTP leftover reworked for Siege, with the individual robot modes gutted to make for a more accurate Flywheels?
Ultra Markus wrote:looks like we get weird shaped boxes again like we had with the unicron trilogy
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Wireless_Phantom wrote:Skritz wrote:Let's just hope that price hike ain't too painful. On the flipside? No more combiner teams (for now?), so no need to hunt down every single figure to complete a 'set'. This is a much more 'buy what you want' line, really. Which is good.
...Even if I still want more combiners.
Unfortunately I doubt we will get a Piranacon anytime soon since the War for Cybertron trilogy seems to be angled directly against that type of thing
I refuse to believe we won't get Piranacon anytime soon! He says knowing that it's so unlikely because Hasbro would need to figure out how to work a gunmode into a deluxe class figure...
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Actually, it's not that hard. Ripersnapper (the likely candidate for a retool into Overbite) can be configured into a fair approximation of Overbite's gun mode (minus the gun piece).
Caelus wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Actually, it's not that hard. Ripersnapper (the likely candidate for a retool into Overbite) can be configured into a fair approximation of Overbite's gun mode (minus the gun piece).
Weight is the problem. I've tried getting CW Bruticus to hold WFC Shockwave, and it doesn't work very well.
Probably the best move would be to make one of the Seacons - probably Nautilator - a Deluxe class Weaponizer that can be split up and attached all over Piranacon.
