"Leak" Suggesting that Upcoming Legacy Chromia will be an Animated Prowl Redeco with New Head
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Jan 16, 2024 at 7:16pm CST
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Of course, this is to be taken with a grain of salt as there is no solid proof of this aside from the leaker's record which is 50/50. Of course, this will give us an idea of how reliable leaks are.
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Re: "Leak" Suggesting that Upcoming Legacy Chromia will be an Animated Prowl Redeco with New Head
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Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer. Surely they must understand it's those full price pre-orders and release sales that pay for these to be produced. Them saying not to pre-order because it's definitely going to be on clearance later isn't going to tell Hasbro (and more importantly the retailers which is where Hasbro directly gets their money from, not customer sales) these cost too much, it's going to tell them people have lost interest and not to make / stock them anymore. Stuff like this depends on early adopters. That doesn't mean everyone that wants to see more like this has to buy right now, it just means a substantial number still needs to.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Jan 16, 2024
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.
Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer. Surely they must understand it's those full price pre-orders and release sales that pay for these to be produced. Them saying not to pre-order because it's definitely going to be on clearance later isn't going to tell Hasbro (and more importantly the retailers which is where Hasbro directly gets their money from, not customer sales) these cost too much, it's going to tell them people have lost interest and not to make / stock them anymore. Stuff like this depends on early adopters. That doesn't mean everyone that wants to see more like this has to buy right now, it just means a substantial number still needs to.
Emerje
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Also, it's not guaranteed that the year's Titan will be quickly clearanced. It was true for the Ark and Cyber Metroplex, but so far, the Nemesis remains constantly at full price and is still selling well.
Was it less produced than the previous two?
Or is the Nemesis simply cooler?
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jan 16, 2024
Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.
Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer. Surely they must understand it's those full price pre-orders and release sales that pay for these to be produced. Them saying not to pre-order because it's definitely going to be on clearance later isn't going to tell Hasbro (and more importantly the retailers which is where Hasbro directly gets their money from, not customer sales) these cost too much, it's going to tell them people have lost interest and not to make / stock them anymore. Stuff like this depends on early adopters. That doesn't mean everyone that wants to see more like this has to buy right now, it just means a substantial number still needs to.
Emerje
Also, it's not guaranteed that the year's Titan will be quickly clearanced. It was true for the Ark and Cyber Metroplex, but so far, the Nemesis remains constantly at full price and is still selling well.
Was it less produced than the previous two?
Or is the Nemesis simply cooler?
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jan 16, 2024
And not just any retailer, either. This would be like if BBTS told the US market not to preorder Tidal Wave.Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.
Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer.
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Comment by Sowndwave76
Jan 16, 2024
Supposedly the figure on the left in this image is the new Trailbreaker for the Autobot 5-pack.
I think it could be legit, and I’m liking how that’s looking.
I think it could be legit, and I’m liking how that’s looking.
Re: "Leak" Suggesting that Upcoming Legacy Chromia will be an Animated Prowl Redeco with New Head
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Going by some discussion I saw on Twitter regarding this, for the last several titans, they have sold very little stock at full retail for titans, instead being required to adopt and match sales prices and losing money on the titan class in general. Black Zarak appears to have been the biggest offender
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jan 17, 2024
Sabrblade wrote:And not just any retailer, either. This would be like if BBTS told the US market not to preorder Tidal Wave.Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.
Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer.
Going by some discussion I saw on Twitter regarding this, for the last several titans, they have sold very little stock at full retail for titans, instead being required to adopt and match sales prices and losing money on the titan class in general. Black Zarak appears to have been the biggest offender
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Comment by sol magnus
Jan 17, 2024
I mean, I'm not sure what else they would use Animated Prowl for, but you know they were going to reuse it, so it makes a lot of sense that Chromia might come from that. I guess I would hope there'd be some retooling there besides just a head.
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I was kinda hoping for a Road Pig retool to go with Road Rocket
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jan 17, 2024
sol magnus wrote:I mean, I'm not sure what else they would use Animated Prowl for, but you know they were going to reuse it, so it makes a lot of sense that Chromia might come from that. I guess I would hope there'd be some retooling there besides just a head.
I was kinda hoping for a Road Pig retool to go with Road Rocket
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Hey, that could still happen.
Comment by sol magnus
Jan 17, 2024
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:sol magnus wrote:I mean, I'm not sure what else they would use Animated Prowl for, but you know they were going to reuse it, so it makes a lot of sense that Chromia might come from that. I guess I would hope there'd be some retooling there besides just a head.
I was kinda hoping for a Road Pig retool to go with Road Rocket
Hey, that could still happen.
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Would also be awesome to get a repaint of that as a Laser Cycle Soundwave to go with Jazz.
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jan 17, 2024
sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:sol magnus wrote:I mean, I'm not sure what else they would use Animated Prowl for, but you know they were going to reuse it, so it makes a lot of sense that Chromia might come from that. I guess I would hope there'd be some retooling there besides just a head.
I was kinda hoping for a Road Pig retool to go with Road Rocket
Hey, that could still happen.
Would also be awesome to get a repaint of that as a Laser Cycle Soundwave to go with Jazz.
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Comment by o.supreme
Jan 17, 2024
We know the designers really try to envision multiple uses for every newly tooled toy that comes out, but some of them dont make it. Thus they only get one use (or perhaps are slightly retooled years later). We've definitely been given some unique ones in the past few years, but some obvious (?) ones I would think would have been a Predacon release of Kingdom Wingfinger & another use of the Legacy Evolution Crashbar mould, but we still haven't got those yet.
As for Tidal Wave. I put it in my Amazon cart, but haven't made the Pre-Order. Unlike Past Years, I'm not sure how my finances will be in July, so I figure if it goes out of stock, it will probably come back at some point.
on a different note...Titans are really unpredictable. Cybertron Metroplex you can still get for nearly 50% (Amazon has it right no for $119). But The Nemesis is going for at a minimum $250 (I've seen as high as $400) on the secondary market, nobody has it in stock for normal retail. Glad I got that one right away. I know Tidal Wave is a must have for Armada fans, but I guess the question really is...how many are there? Of course Hasbro/TT could have produced less based on past years, but I guess we wont know for several months.
As for Tidal Wave. I put it in my Amazon cart, but haven't made the Pre-Order. Unlike Past Years, I'm not sure how my finances will be in July, so I figure if it goes out of stock, it will probably come back at some point.
on a different note...Titans are really unpredictable. Cybertron Metroplex you can still get for nearly 50% (Amazon has it right no for $119). But The Nemesis is going for at a minimum $250 (I've seen as high as $400) on the secondary market, nobody has it in stock for normal retail. Glad I got that one right away. I know Tidal Wave is a must have for Armada fans, but I guess the question really is...how many are there? Of course Hasbro/TT could have produced less based on past years, but I guess we wont know for several months.
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In Wave 1, when Legacy was doing more significant G1-ifying of non-G1 characters (Like Knock Out and Bulkhead), I always thought the Autobot Ark might be used as a retool for Tidal Wave, given the similar-ish head sculpt and cannons.
Obviously, from Wave 2 onward Legacy started making more faithful representations of non-G1 characters, and now we have a very accurate Tidal Wave. But I still wonder if that was originally an idea they had or if they always planned to make an Armada-faithful Tidal Wave.
Comment by #1 Signal Lancer fan
Jan 17, 2024
o.supreme wrote:We know the designers really try to envision multiple uses for every newly tooled toy that comes out, but some of them dont make it. Thus they only get one use (or perhaps are slightly retooled years later). We've definitely been given some unique ones in the past few years, but some obvious (?) ones I would think would have been a Predacon release of Kingdom Wingfinger & another use of the Legacy Evolution Crashbar mould, but we still haven't got those yet.
In Wave 1, when Legacy was doing more significant G1-ifying of non-G1 characters (Like Knock Out and Bulkhead), I always thought the Autobot Ark might be used as a retool for Tidal Wave, given the similar-ish head sculpt and cannons.
Obviously, from Wave 2 onward Legacy started making more faithful representations of non-G1 characters, and now we have a very accurate Tidal Wave. But I still wonder if that was originally an idea they had or if they always planned to make an Armada-faithful Tidal Wave.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jan 17, 2024
It was only the TF: Prime and Animated characters (and, bafflingly, Cyberverse Shadow Striker) that they really G1-ified, because of how heavily stylized their original aesthetics were. The Unicron Trilogy designs were always much closer to the blocky G1 aesthetic, so they never needed to be redesigned to the same extent as the Prime/Animated designs.#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:o.supreme wrote:We know the designers really try to envision multiple uses for every newly tooled toy that comes out, but some of them dont make it. Thus they only get one use (or perhaps are slightly retooled years later). We've definitely been given some unique ones in the past few years, but some obvious (?) ones I would think would have been a Predacon release of Kingdom Wingfinger & another use of the Legacy Evolution Crashbar mould, but we still haven't got those yet.
In Wave 1, when Legacy was doing more significant G1-ifying of non-G1 characters (Like Knock Out and Bulkhead), I always thought the Autobot Ark might be used as a retool for Tidal Wave, given the similar-ish head sculpt and cannons.
Obviously, from Wave 2 onward Legacy started making more faithful representations of non-G1 characters, and now we have a very accurate Tidal Wave. But I still wonder if that was originally an idea they had or if they always planned to make an Armada-faithful Tidal Wave.
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They completely dropped the ball on Prime, yet they knock it out of the park for Animated.
Lessons learned I guess?
So, if they go back to Prime at some point, will they succeed? Appart for the excellent Skyquake and Dreadwing, of course.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jan 17, 2024
Sabrblade wrote:It was only the TF: Prime and Animated characters (and, bafflingly, Cyberverse Shadow Striker) that they really G1-ified, because of how heavily stylized their original aesthetics were. The Unicron Trilogy designs were always much closer to the blocky G1 aesthetic, so they never needed to be redesigned to the same extent as the Prime/Animated designs.#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:o.supreme wrote:We know the designers really try to envision multiple uses for every newly tooled toy that comes out, but some of them dont make it. Thus they only get one use (or perhaps are slightly retooled years later). We've definitely been given some unique ones in the past few years, but some obvious (?) ones I would think would have been a Predacon release of Kingdom Wingfinger & another use of the Legacy Evolution Crashbar mould, but we still haven't got those yet.
In Wave 1, when Legacy was doing more significant G1-ifying of non-G1 characters (Like Knock Out and Bulkhead), I always thought the Autobot Ark might be used as a retool for Tidal Wave, given the similar-ish head sculpt and cannons.
Obviously, from Wave 2 onward Legacy started making more faithful representations of non-G1 characters, and now we have a very accurate Tidal Wave. But I still wonder if that was originally an idea they had or if they always planned to make an Armada-faithful Tidal Wave.
They completely dropped the ball on Prime, yet they knock it out of the park for Animated.
Lessons learned I guess?
So, if they go back to Prime at some point, will they succeed? Appart for the excellent Skyquake and Dreadwing, of course.
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Comment by Nemesis Primal
Jan 18, 2024
JTPrime17 just posted more updates on previously-known listings, meaning we've been given the following additional tidbits:
-Starseekers Deluxe Road Pig will be using the Crashbar mold
-Leader Soundwave is a repaint of the ER mold (maybe this is the Marvel colors one that was rumored last year?)
-the previously-shared "Mayhem Deluxe 2-pack" is now TRA GEN MAYHEM VOY BLUDGEON & DLX RUCKUS (Product Number: G0182)
-Apparently the Mayhem capsule will be 3 multipacks for a total of 7 figures
-Starseekers Deluxe Road Pig will be using the Crashbar mold
-Leader Soundwave is a repaint of the ER mold (maybe this is the Marvel colors one that was rumored last year?)
-the previously-shared "Mayhem Deluxe 2-pack" is now TRA GEN MAYHEM VOY BLUDGEON & DLX RUCKUS (Product Number: G0182)
-Apparently the Mayhem capsule will be 3 multipacks for a total of 7 figures
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jan 18, 2024
I sincerely hope the Bludgeon in that pack is not the "Tarn in cosplay" one.
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Comment by Nemesis Primal
Jan 18, 2024
Considering his history as a member of Mayhem all using his G1 design, his being paired with Ruckus in this pack, and what happened with Wreckers Bulkhead, I'm guessing it's most likely going to be a G1/Marvel repaint and/or retool of that same mold. I would be shocked if they put a straight repack of a retail figure in a capsule like this.-Kanrabat- wrote:I sincerely hope the Bludgeon in that pack is not the "Tarn in cosplay" one.
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The same mold of who? Not Tarn I hope? Unless Ruckus is a new mold and that will be a repaint of it?
Fingers crossed for something good. The ROTF Bludgeon voyager mold is yet to be beaten.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jan 18, 2024
Nemesis Primal wrote:Considering his history as a member of Mayhem all using his G1 design, his being paired with Ruckus in this pack, and what happened with Wreckers Bulkhead, I'm guessing it's most likely going to be a G1/Marvel repaint and/or retool of that same mold. I would be shocked if they put a straight repack of a retail figure in a capsule like this.-Kanrabat- wrote:I sincerely hope the Bludgeon in that pack is not the "Tarn in cosplay" one.
The same mold of who? Not Tarn I hope? Unless Ruckus is a new mold and that will be a repaint of it?
Fingers crossed for something good. The ROTF Bludgeon voyager mold is yet to be beaten.
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Ruckus will presumably be a Beachcomber retool? They've got similar enough alt modes and kibble placement, and they could use Beachcomber's bird-mounting pegs for mounting Ruckus's guns. I would have thought maybe Sureshot as well, but between Ruckus's lack of windshield chest and (more importantly) the nebulous circumstance of Sureshot's release at the moment, Beachcomber seems like the safer prediction to me.
Comment by Nemesis Primal
Jan 18, 2024
The same mold as the retail Bludgeon was what I meant, yes, so Tarn but presumably with actual retooling this time. There's no other Voyager tank mold from WFC & Legacy to use outside of Siege/ER Megatron again, and Wreckers Bulkhead, Impactor, Twin Twist and Springer all used the same exact molds as their original retail releases.-Kanrabat- wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:Considering his history as a member of Mayhem all using his G1 design, his being paired with Ruckus in this pack, and what happened with Wreckers Bulkhead, I'm guessing it's most likely going to be a G1/Marvel repaint and/or retool of that same mold. I would be shocked if they put a straight repack of a retail figure in a capsule like this.-Kanrabat- wrote:I sincerely hope the Bludgeon in that pack is not the "Tarn in cosplay" one.
The same mold of who? Not Tarn I hope? Unless Ruckus is a new mold and that will be a repaint of it?
Fingers crossed for something good. The ROTF Bludgeon voyager mold is yet to be beaten.
Ruckus will presumably be a Beachcomber retool? They've got similar enough alt modes and kibble placement, and they could use Beachcomber's bird-mounting pegs for mounting Ruckus's guns. I would have thought maybe Sureshot as well, but between Ruckus's lack of windshield chest and (more importantly) the nebulous circumstance of Sureshot's release at the moment, Beachcomber seems like the safer prediction to me.
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Actually it's Cybertron Metroplex. It's still available at half off on Kapow website, even Amazon US has it for that price as well. It is eye opening though. I thought 3rd party online retailers could order as many or few as they wanted. I was unaware that Hasbro forced on them a minimum order quantity. I thought that was just for B&M. Still, this, along with shifting manufacturing to India is getting Hasbro a bunch of negative press online.
Comment by o.supreme
Jan 19, 2024
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And not just any retailer, either. This would be like if BBTS told the US market not to preorder Tidal Wave.Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, today:Kapow Toys wrote:Transformers Legacy Titan Tidal Wave is due to go live on pre-order tonight, here is why you should vote with your wallets and not pre-order it.
Damn, that's a rather scathing and incredibly misguided comment from a toy retailer.
Going by some discussion I saw on Twitter regarding this, for the last several titans, they have sold very little stock at full retail for titans, instead being required to adopt and match sales prices and losing money on the titan class in general. Black Zarak appears to have been the biggest offender
Actually it's Cybertron Metroplex. It's still available at half off on Kapow website, even Amazon US has it for that price as well. It is eye opening though. I thought 3rd party online retailers could order as many or few as they wanted. I was unaware that Hasbro forced on them a minimum order quantity. I thought that was just for B&M. Still, this, along with shifting manufacturing to India is getting Hasbro a bunch of negative press online.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jan 19, 2024
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Megatron: "You call that puny twig a Star Saber? It's a toothpick!"
Megatron: "That's not the Star Saber..."
Megatron: "THIS is the Star Saber!!!"
Starscream: "Gyaaaaaaaaah!"
Megatron: "You call that puny twig a Star Saber? It's a toothpick!"
Megatron: "That's not the Star Saber..."
Megatron: "THIS is the Star Saber!!!"
Starscream: "Gyaaaaaaaaah!"
