Legacy Wave 2 Deluxes Found at Big Lots for $22.99

Interesting, I was just at my local biglot last week, they only had a couple of MOTU bendy figs I've never seen before.

The only TF I saw there was last year, whatever SS86 assortment included Gnaw. But still, any chance to get something new I'll take a look.

I did finally see Elita-1 at a local Target today. They had 2. The rest of the case I assume was purchased.

Posted by SoundwaveSuperior24 on September 1st, 2022 @ 1:30am CDT
Hey all! LONG-time reader, probably going on 10 years, but I wanted to make an account just to add some information to this news of NEW Transformers being sold at Big Lots!

I worked at a Big Lots for nearly 4 years, and in that time I got a pretty good idea of how Big Lots gets stock. Big Lots used to be seen as a TJ-Maxx style store that receives older products that simply do not sell. That was SOMETIMES the case, but while I worked there Big Lots often got brand new toys direct from the manufacturer. Big Lots was one of the first stores to get Bot Bots for instance. Since I left Big Lots seems to be stocking more and more current Hasbro product, such as Lightning Collection and Fortnite. While Big Lots did sometimes receive products that did not sell at other retailers and sold them at a discount similar to stores such as Ollies, Big Lots worked to gain a more "current" image, and wanted to lose the "Thrift Store" identity that it had for itself, instead trying to be a Target store on a dollar store budget. Thus, Big Lots began stocking newer merchandise.

So I would say it's a safe bet to NOT take this as bad news that this is a distribution problem, but rather that Big Lots has decided to purchase this assortment for their stores. I hope this helps ease some worry!

Say, SoundwaveSuperior24 (agree with most of that username BTW), do you have any insight as to whether the shift to current TF product was spurred ty Big Lots getting in trouble over the TF knock-offs they used to carry? That's why I LOVED Big Lots 15-20 years ago, starting with some of the same Beast Wars and Brave KOs previously found in Easter Baskets, then G1 and Machine Robo combiner teams, and finally enlarged Minicons and Legends figures which seem to have spurred a crackdown from Hasbro.

The final straw was apparently oversized KOs of the Operation Combination Six-______ torso and head with Cybertron Legends figures enlarged to near-Deluxe size as limbs. One used Vector Prime for arms, and the legs were red and yellow Starscreams that scaled perfectly with the Titanium Tetra-jet mold, an army-builder's dream come true! I bought a few, not having much use for all the dead weight from the knees up, but a month or 2 later I saw them all stacked on overheads and labeled "NOT FOR SALE", and learned they were ordered destroyed, an event tied with the closure of all US Toys'R'Us stores as my saddest toy store memory (bear in mind, the latter meant I was out of a job). Seriously, I should've come back with scissors and a box cutter, ripped open every pack, taken out the legs, then dared them to call the cops on me for "stealing" small parts of a product already designated trash instead of merchandise.

After that, tiny, piddly, official TFs trickled in to replace them. Whoop-dee-slag. I haven't had reason to enter a Big Lots in years, but even though I just found Wildrider and Jhiaxus in Target today, and Elita-1 last week, I guess that's my next stop to hunt for Tarantulas and Knock Out: the one TF "KO" the chain still apparently allows.

And SoundwaveSuperior24, if you're still reading this, and know where the KOs I'm talking about were buried, we have much to discuss in the Carbombya forum! Is it out in the desert by all those Atari games?

(Sorry about my odd quote structure above, but the post I'm replying to seems to keep disappearing when I go to the thread)

Bumblevivisector wrote:

Posted by SoundwaveSuperior24 on September 1st, 2022 @ 1:30am CDT
Hey all! LONG-time reader, probably going on 10 years, but I wanted to make an account just to add some information to this news of NEW Transformers being sold at Big Lots!

I worked at a Big Lots for nearly 4 years, and in that time I got a pretty good idea of how Big Lots gets stock. Big Lots used to be seen as a TJ-Maxx style store that receives older products that simply do not sell. That was SOMETIMES the case, but while I worked there Big Lots often got brand new toys direct from the manufacturer. Big Lots was one of the first stores to get Bot Bots for instance. Since I left Big Lots seems to be stocking more and more current Hasbro product, such as Lightning Collection and Fortnite. While Big Lots did sometimes receive products that did not sell at other retailers and sold them at a discount similar to stores such as Ollies, Big Lots worked to gain a more "current" image, and wanted to lose the "Thrift Store" identity that it had for itself, instead trying to be a Target store on a dollar store budget. Thus, Big Lots began stocking newer merchandise.

So I would say it's a safe bet to NOT take this as bad news that this is a distribution problem, but rather that Big Lots has decided to purchase this assortment for their stores. I hope this helps ease some worry!

Say, SoundwaveSuperior24 (agree with most of that username BTW), do you have any insight as to whether the shift to current TF product was spurred ty Big Lots getting in trouble over the TF knock-offs they used to carry? That's why I LOVED Big Lots 15-20 years ago, starting with some of the same Beast Wars and Brave KOs previously found in Easter Baskets, then G1 and Machine Robo combiner teams, and finally enlarged Minicons and Legends figures which seem to have spurred a crackdown from Hasbro.

The final straw was apparently oversized KOs of the Operation Combination Six-______ torso and head with Cybertron Legends figures enlarged to near-Deluxe size as limbs. One used Vector Prime for arms, and the legs were red and yellow Starscreams that scaled perfectly with the Titanium Tetra-jet mold, an army-builder's dream come true! I bought a few, not having much use for all the dead weight from the knees up, but a month or 2 later I saw them all stacked on overheads and labeled "NOT FOR SALE", and learned they were ordered destroyed, an event tied with the closure of all US Toys'R'Us stores as my saddest toy store memory (bear in mind, the latter meant I was out of a job). Seriously, I should've come back with scissors and a box cutter, ripped open every pack, taken out the legs, then dared them to call the cops on me for "stealing" small parts of a product already designated trash instead of merchandise.

After that, tiny, piddly, official TFs trickled in to replace them. Whoop-dee-slag. I haven't had reason to enter a Big Lots in years, but even though I just found Wildrider and Jhiaxus in Target today, and Elita-1 last week, I guess that's my next stop to hunt for Tarantulas and Knock Out: the one TF "KO" the chain still apparently allows.

And SoundwaveSuperior24, if you're still reading this, and know where the KOs I'm talking about were buried, we have much to discuss in the Carbombya forum! Is it out in the desert by all those Atari games?

(Sorry about my odd quote structure above, but the post I'm replying to seems to keep disappearing when I go to the thread)

The reason you were having a little trouble with the post was it was waiting for approval being a new post, however you can still see the new posts when looking at the comments on the newstory. Those same posts are hidden in forum view. A quirk of the system.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...


- https://showzstore.com/dna-design-dk-38_p4429.html

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

Unless the original comes with a sword, I would say that was an "essential" addition to make it more G1 though. The longer trailer is always welcome too. I wish there was a 3P trailer available these days for Earthrise Prime. I would even settle for a straight G1 reissue if it scaled and fitted the connector on Prime.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

Unless the original comes with a sword, I would say that was an "essential" addition to make it more G1 though. The longer trailer is always welcome too. I wish there was a 3P trailer available these days for Earthrise Prime. I would even settle for a straight G1 reissue if it scaled and fitted the connector on Prime.

The original comes with a sword, always has. And I still have the CW one if I really want a bigger sword.

You are talking to probably the person who cares least about "g1 accuracy".

Longer trailer might be welcome, but is not necessary. And $60 is just too steep for what that offers. DNA has gone off the rails with prices lately, I was going to get the Scourge set, but considering it costs as much as the figure itself, that was a hell no

This is true. Most of the kits I want are smaller ones (spoilers and guns for the recent Lambos, etc) but those require Paypal, which I don't want to use. DNA started to only do "big" kits and then got really greedy by combining all three of the Scorp kits into one, overpriced Black Zarak kit. I probably would have bought the two main ones and ignored the leg extenders, like I did with Scorp, but I didn't bother with it after DNA pulled that stunt.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Also, I am really REALLY enjoying Motormaster and Menasor. The Menasor right now feels like a mech suit for Motormaster with Dragstrip as the first "upgrade" to the suit. It is a lot of fun, and it's how I'll be keeping these guys for the most part and adding new "upgrades" as we go

If you like upgrades...

Not at all what I'm talking about. And outside of those thigh extensions, that set feels wholly unneccessary.

I just figured out that Dragstrip is power booster level 1: super speed.

When Wildrider is found, he will add some sort of frenzy attack mode power boost.

Need to think on the last 2, but i have time

Unless the original comes with a sword, I would say that was an "essential" addition to make it more G1 though. The longer trailer is always welcome too. I wish there was a 3P trailer available these days for Earthrise Prime. I would even settle for a straight G1 reissue if it scaled and fitted the connector on Prime.

The original comes with a sword, always has. And I still have the CW one if I really want a bigger sword.

You are talking to probably the person who cares least about "g1 accuracy".

Longer trailer might be welcome, but is not necessary. And $60 is just too steep for what that offers. DNA has gone off the rails with prices lately, I was going to get the Scourge set, but considering it costs as much as the figure itself, that was a hell no

*puts his hand up about caring the least about G1 accuracy*

I do like your idea though of each component bringing with it an upgrade. Sounds very mini-con/ Japanese G1 ish.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I do like your idea though of each component bringing with it an upgrade. Sounds very mini-con/ Japanese G1 ish.

Kinda came up with it this morning, it's a neat idea to justify 2 different types of Menasor designs and honestly makes me happier about this skeletal frame combiner with cars slapped on it. Adds extra layers to it that helps me enjoy it a lot more, both as a good toy and also with a fictional background to it

Drag Strip: Speed boost
Dead End: Endurance boost
Breakdown: Physical strength boost
Wildrider: Fireblast boost

Bumblevivisector wrote:Yeah, if Takara had put more thought into different limbs and configurations bestowing different powers on each gestalt back in the day, all the limb-swapping in the Scramble City OVA and G1 manga would've been more interesting and less pointless, at the cost of being more jarring whenever it intersected with any western TF fiction that would've still ignored the whole concept.

But alas, no one had the time, it was a mad...scramble...to get the corresponding toys and fiction out at all.

They did eventually do that for Battle Gaia and Guard City in Operation Combination.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I do like your idea though of each component bringing with it an upgrade. Sounds very mini-con/ Japanese G1 ish.

Kinda came up with it this morning, it's a neat idea to justify 2 different types of Menasor designs and honestly makes me happier about this skeletal frame combiner with cars slapped on it. Adds extra layers to it that helps me enjoy it a lot more, both as a good toy and also with a fictional background to it

Drag Strip: Speed boost
Dead End: Endurance boost
Breakdown: Physical strength boost
Wildrider: Fireblast boost

I'm guessing this is based on OG tech specs?

No. Not that I'm opposed to the idea presented.

I prefer a different approach, almost like super power. Like Dragstrip with the speed boost works for a sprinting combiner, and I just like the idea of Wildrider being a total berserker, so he adds a sort of frenzy attack.

I might incorporate more of the multiverse into Dead End and Breakdown. Maybe Breakdown provides the strength boost you mentioned, but it's more a super slammer uppercut, and maybe he wields the trailer as a giant hammer. Dead End would lean more Cyberverse, so maybe he would give the combiner a sneakier stealth mode (he wasn't stealthy in the show per se, but he was able to help hide as part of the resistance and was good with the hit and run tactics), while also adding some personality snark to Menasor.

Cyberverse Dead End is my favorite, made me love the character and finally gave me a reason to like a Stunticon, though RiD2015 did give me some love to Dragstrip and Motormaster.

Interesting, but I think I'll come up with yet another take.