Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon

Monday, February 19th, 2018 10:58PM CST

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Amazon seems to be the hot spot for exclusives this year, or at least special edition toys. We already had listings for a Generations Blastoff and now Amazon.ca has a listing for an upcoming Deluxe Counterpunch toy.

Here are all the details given:

TRANSFORMERS E1864 Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch

Product Dimensions: 6.4 x 25.4 x 17.8 cm ; 4.54 Kg
Shipping Weight: 4.5 Kg
Item model number: E1864
ASIN: B077ZBCPDV

We do not know more than that. This is a very premature listing with stand in text but it is fun none the less. This is a character that has not had a release from Hasbro proper since G1. It is also interesting to note that the listing is only titled after the Counterpunch identity with no mention of Punch. He is said to be part of the Robots in Disguise line but that may be fill in text. We will write an update whenever we know more.

Credit(s): Amazon.ca

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Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940816)
Posted by RustedCross on February 19th, 2018 @ 11:04pm CST

Ok...I’m interested. We just need someone to leak pics now.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940818)
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on February 19th, 2018 @ 11:23pm CST

Hopefully it'll be good enough that I won't feel bad about missing out on that TFCC one years ago!

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940832)
Posted by Rated X on February 20th, 2018 @ 12:14am CST

I rather have Punch. We just got Counterpunch in the last TFCC Subscription series. I got the old one too, so it would be nice to have a stand alone Punch to display next to Counterpunch and then put the spy version in another display.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940833)
Posted by Emerje on February 20th, 2018 @ 12:23am CST

Yeah, that does appear to be a generic description lifted off something else. The use of Generations in the title should be Prime Wars-based. I really hope it's a Titans Return figure with two Titan Masters sort of like the TRU sets. Not sure who would make a good body, though. Chromedome seems like an obvious choice, but not great, same with Hot Rod.

Emerje

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940837)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 20th, 2018 @ 1:36am CST

The item number, aka Hasbro Product Code (E1864) falls in the same general area as Blast Off (E1796), that seems promising. The certainty can be increased once Deluxe Repugnus' code is known. I wouldn't worry about it being Robots in Disguise 2015, as that line should be considered over, finished.

Worst case scenario, it's that CW Wheeljack retool first released by the Club, as the head is built-in (i.e. not a Club-original head!).

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940857)
Posted by ScottyP on February 20th, 2018 @ 6:58am CST

Rated X wrote:I rather have Punch.

There is no Punch...

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940861)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2018 @ 7:17am CST

Curiouser and curiouser...

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940867)
Posted by steals_your_goats on February 20th, 2018 @ 7:36am CST

I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940869)
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on February 20th, 2018 @ 7:39am CST

Rated X wrote:I rather have Punch. We just got Counterpunch in the last TFCC Subscription series. I got the old one too, so it would be nice to have a stand alone Punch to display next to Counterpunch and then put the spy version in another display.

It literally did not occur to me that you could do just Punch or just Counterpunch. What would be the bloody point?

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940874)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2018 @ 8:11am CST

steals_your_goats wrote:I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.

Then, maybe... a new mold?

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940875)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on February 20th, 2018 @ 8:12am CST

I would almost put down money on it being a repaint of Chromedome with two Titan Masters (likely named "Counter" and "Punch").

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940878)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on February 20th, 2018 @ 8:24am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.
Then, maybe... a new mold?

Well since I think the Counterpunch TFSS one sold out, it seems likely it's not that one, but I doubt it would be a new mold. Maybe some new parts.
It would have made more sense to mew to have done Punch instead though.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940879)
Posted by steals_your_goats on February 20th, 2018 @ 8:24am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.
Then, maybe... a new mold?

I mean I hope so, I'm just trying to be realistic.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940894)
Posted by william-james88 on February 20th, 2018 @ 8:47am CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: The certainty can be increased once Deluxe Repugnus' code is known.

E1797

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1940943)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 20th, 2018 @ 12:22pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: The certainty can be increased once Deluxe Repugnus' code is known.

E1797

Thanks, that's exactly after Blast Off, meaning they'll be released at the same time.

Sabrblade wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.
Then, maybe... a new mold?

A "Partial Tool" (what we would call "part-sharer") as expected best, given its exclusive nature and using Grotusque as an example of precedent. Jazz is a possibility given his retool, if any, is unknown (even if he reuses CW Drag Strip's wheels and Combiner Peg), and Moonracer, well... The point is he'll more than likely be a combiner given the Deluxe's gimmick for PotP.

Anything is possible, but expect anything from the CW Wheeljack pretool, to a retool of Jazz I'd say.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941014)
Posted by Counterpunch on February 20th, 2018 @ 3:04pm CST

ScottyP wrote:
Rated X wrote:I rather have Punch.
There is no Punch...

He's right.

I've been telling you all for years.

There is only ME_Counterpunch!

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941037)
Posted by Rysquad on February 20th, 2018 @ 4:59pm CST

Watch it just be based on PotP Jazz.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941066)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 20th, 2018 @ 7:29pm CST

Looking forward to whatever this is! Still want a proper Punch/Counterpunch though

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941097)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on February 20th, 2018 @ 9:06pm CST

I really hope they do this right. I've been waiting years for a proper punch-counterpunch. For those worried about him just being Counterpunch, he's likely just called that for trademark reasons.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941117)
Posted by Counterpunch on February 20th, 2018 @ 10:09pm CST

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I really hope they do this right. I've been waiting years for a proper punch-counterpunch. For those worried about him just being Counterpunch, he's likely just called that for trademark reasons.

No one's needs Punch when you've got a hot heaping helping of Counterpunch.

I'm pretty sure that's even in the footnotes of the forum rules.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941194)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on February 21st, 2018 @ 9:40am CST

But how does one counterpunch without an initial punch to make it a counterpunch???

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941266)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2018 @ 2:38pm CST

Wireless_Phantom wrote:But how does one counterpunch without an initial punch to make it a counterpunch???

Just know that the initial punch is nearby. Real nearby...

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941271)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 21st, 2018 @ 3:05pm CST

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I really hope they do this right. I've been waiting years for a proper punch-counterpunch. For those worried about him just being Counterpunch, he's likely just called that for trademark reasons.

I hear ya. But Triple Changers have always been a challenge. The first Club Punch/Counterpunch actually uses the genius pretooling of the Universe 2008 Sideswipe/Sunstreaker mold, a happy accident, really.

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941324)
Posted by Counterpunch on February 21st, 2018 @ 6:52pm CST

Wireless_Phantom wrote:But how does one counterpunch without an initial punch to make it a counterpunch???

Actually, in the most esoteric sense...the perfect counterpunch is thrown before the opponent physically strikes when you sense their intent to do harm. >:oP

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941382)
Posted by Emerje on February 21st, 2018 @ 10:52pm CST

Counterpunch wrote:
Wireless_Phantom wrote:But how does one counterpunch without an initial punch to make it a counterpunch???

Actually, in the most esoteric sense...the perfect counterpunch is thrown before the opponent physically strikes when you sense their intent to do harm.

At which point you accidentally fist bump and become bros.

But seriously, if this becomes real and it's a true double spy then I'd buy two, one for each mode. I would have loved to have done it with the TFCC version, but that would have been expensive. I do have 3 of the G1 figure though, but strangely none of them have stickers. :-?

Emerje

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941415)
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 22nd, 2018 @ 4:38am CST

Scans are up. You will be disappointed...

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Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1941993)
Posted by Zeedust on February 23rd, 2018 @ 8:14pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Worst case scenario, it's that CW Wheeljack retool first released by the Club, as the head is built-in (i.e. not a Club-original head!).

I'd be kind of surprised if that happened, though. If they decided to do a CW pretool, I can't think of a good reason to pick Counterpunch over Ratchet.

primalxconvoy wrote:Scans are up. You will be disappointed...

PicsArt_1519295789241.jpg

Re: Listing for Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch on Amazon (1942492)
Posted by Emerje on February 26th, 2018 @ 2:04am CST

Zeedust wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Worst case scenario, it's that CW Wheeljack retool first released by the Club, as the head is built-in (i.e. not a Club-original head!).

I'd be kind of surprised if that happened, though. If they decided to do a CW pretool, I can't think of a good reason to pick Counterpunch over Ratchet.

I'd like to think that Counterpunch on his own is unusual enough to be an exclusive (again), but Ratchet would be ripe for mass retail sometime.

Emerje