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News Credits: 934 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:56 pm

Amazon seems to be the hot spot for exclusives this year, or at least special edition toys. We already had listings for a Generations Blastoff and now Amazon.ca has a listing for an upcoming Deluxe Counterpunch toy.

Here are all the details given:

TRANSFORMERS E1864 Generations Special Edition Deluxe Counterpunch

Product Dimensions: 6.4 x 25.4 x 17.8 cm ; 4.54 Kg
Shipping Weight: 4.5 Kg
Item model number: E1864
ASIN: B077ZBCPDV

We do not know more than that. This is a very premature listing with stand in text but it is fun none the less. This is a character that has not had a release from Hasbro proper since G1. It is also interesting to note that the listing is only titled after the Counterpunch identity with no mention of Punch. He is said to be part of the Robots in Disguise line but that may be fill in text. We will write an update whenever we know more.

by **RustedCross** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:04 pm

Ok...I’m interested. We just need someone to leak pics now.

by **TheForgottenTaxi** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:23 pm

Hopefully it'll be good enough that I won't feel bad about missing out on that TFCC one years ago!

by **Rated X** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:14 am

I rather have Punch. We just got Counterpunch in the last TFCC Subscription series. I got the old one too, so it would be nice to have a stand alone Punch to display next to Counterpunch and then put the spy version in another display.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:23 am

Yeah, that does appear to be a generic description lifted off something else. The use of Generations in the title should be Prime Wars-based. I really hope it's a Titans Return figure with two Titan Masters sort of like the TRU sets. Not sure who would make a good body, though. Chromedome seems like an obvious choice, but not great, same with Hot Rod.

Emerje

News Credits: 25 · by **JelZe GoldRabbit** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:36 am

The item number, aka Hasbro Product Code (E1864) falls in the same general area as Blast Off (E1796), that seems promising. The certainty can be increased once Deluxe Repugnus' code is known. I wouldn't worry about it being Robots in Disguise 2015, as that line should be considered over, finished.

Worst case scenario, it's that CW Wheeljack retool first released by the Club, as the head is built-in (i.e. not a Club-original head!).

News Credits: 335 · by **ScottyP** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:58 am

Rated X wrote:I rather have Punch.

There is no Punch...

News Credits: 258 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:17 am

Curiouser and curiouser...

News Credits: 12 · by **steals_your_goats** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:36 am

I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.

by **TheForgottenTaxi** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:39 am

Rated X wrote:I rather have Punch. We just got Counterpunch in the last TFCC Subscription series. I got the old one too, so it would be nice to have a stand alone Punch to display next to Counterpunch and then put the spy version in another display.

It literally did not occur to me that you could do just Punch or just Counterpunch. What would be the bloody point?

News Credits: 258 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:11 am

steals_your_goats wrote:I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.

Then, maybe... a new mold?

News Credits: 3 · by **Caelus** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:12 am

I would almost put down money on it being a repaint of Chromedome with two Titan Masters (likely named "Counter" and "Punch").

by **Rodimus Knight** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:24 am

Sabrblade wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.
Then, maybe... a new mold?

Well since I think the Counterpunch TFSS one sold out, it seems likely it's not that one, but I doubt it would be a new mold. Maybe some new parts.
It would have made more sense to mew to have done Punch instead though.

News Credits: 12 · by **steals_your_goats** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:24 am

Sabrblade wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.
Then, maybe... a new mold?

I mean I hope so, I'm just trying to be realistic.

News Credits: 934 · by **william-james88** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:47 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: The certainty can be increased once Deluxe Repugnus' code is known.

E1797

News Credits: 25 · by **JelZe GoldRabbit** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:22 pm

william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: The certainty can be increased once Deluxe Repugnus' code is known.

E1797

Thanks, that's exactly after Blast Off, meaning they'll be released at the same time.

Sabrblade wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I really hope this isn't the same as the TFSS one. I have no reason to believe that it will be, but I can't think of another mold that could be used.
Then, maybe... a new mold?

A "Partial Tool" (what we would call "part-sharer") as expected best, given its exclusive nature and using Grotusque as an example of precedent. Jazz is a possibility given his retool, if any, is unknown (even if he reuses CW Drag Strip's wheels and Combiner Peg), and Moonracer, well... The point is he'll more than likely be a combiner given the Deluxe's gimmick for PotP.

Anything is possible, but expect anything from the CW Wheeljack pretool, to a retool of Jazz I'd say.

News Credits: 74 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:04 pm

ScottyP wrote:
Rated X wrote:I rather have Punch.
There is no Punch...

He's right.

I've been telling you all for years.

There is only ME_Counterpunch!

News Credits: 4 · by **Rysquad** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:59 pm

Watch it just be based on PotP Jazz.

News Credits: 290 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:29 pm

Looking forward to whatever this is! Still want a proper Punch/Counterpunch though

by **Wireless_Phantom** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:06 pm

I really hope they do this right. I've been waiting years for a proper punch-counterpunch. For those worried about him just being Counterpunch, he's likely just called that for trademark reasons.

News Credits: 74 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:09 pm

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I really hope they do this right. I've been waiting years for a proper punch-counterpunch. For those worried about him just being Counterpunch, he's likely just called that for trademark reasons.

No one's needs Punch when you've got a hot heaping helping of Counterpunch.

I'm pretty sure that's even in the footnotes of the forum rules.

by **Wireless_Phantom** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:40 am

But how does one counterpunch without an initial punch to make it a counterpunch???

News Credits: 258 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:38 pm

Wireless_Phantom wrote:But how does one counterpunch without an initial punch to make it a counterpunch???

Just know that the initial punch is nearby. Real nearby...

News Credits: 25 · by **JelZe GoldRabbit** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:05 pm

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I really hope they do this right. I've been waiting years for a proper punch-counterpunch. For those worried about him just being Counterpunch, he's likely just called that for trademark reasons.

I hear ya. But Triple Changers have always been a challenge. The first Club Punch/Counterpunch actually uses the genius pretooling of the Universe 2008 Sideswipe/Sunstreaker mold, a happy accident, really.

News Credits: 74 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:52 pm

Wireless_Phantom wrote:But how does one counterpunch without an initial punch to make it a counterpunch???

Actually, in the most esoteric sense...the perfect counterpunch is thrown before the opponent physically strikes when you sense their intent to do harm. >:oP