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Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons

Posted by william-james88 May 20, 2022 at 11:35pm CDT 67,633 views
Hasbro's main Transformers designer, Mark Maher, has received lots of questions from fans regarding Menasor and is taking an opportunity to answer all the main ones, including compatibility with CW (not designed as such), if the connections are unique or symetrical, and the height. You can see all the answers below along with new images of the toy in hand.

Apologies for the lack of responses and posts, I’m trying my best to answer everyone so dont feel neglected if I dont respond. Im just really working hard to make everyone’s FAN tasties come true ( oof dad joke ).

So, here we have Menasor compared to Shattered Glass commander Jetfire just as I promised a scale comparison for yall!! As you can see, our combiner is larger, not by much, but he is basically 12 inches in height with his head horns pushing him to 12 1/2 inches.

I did attach 2 wildriders for the legs but 2 dragstrips will not work, as Ejima san made each arm connection unique to the character.

Swipe right to see how much articulation you have to play with on this combiner, just imagine all the poses!! The ankle rockers really make a large impact!

I also showed some scale comparisons to the voyagers as I feel you can imagine how dlx and core will lineup.

Been a big fan of Motormaster for a long time, the deco colors and design is so striking, I love the boxed out dome! You can see Motormaster here power slamming Optimus

Also, I showed how well combiner wars Sunstreaker fits into Menasors leg socket, as Ive said before, it fits, but does not stay well, as it was not intended to be used with this system. The intention for this combiner was to try to make it the best we could with unique connections.

If you’re a diehard g1 cartoon fan you dont have to display your arm connections seperated as shown here!

More soon! Enjoy!

Thanks for all the support
















Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons
Lots of New Info on Legacy Menasor Including Height Comparisons

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Comment by Sabrblade May 20, 2022
grimdragon2001 wrote:Do we really need Optimus and Megatron in EVERY iteration?
Retailers who sell the toys keep demanding them, unfortunately.

grimdragon2001 wrote:That said, Generations should keep to G1 style when doing G1 characters, but characters from other continuities should be done as they were in said continuity. I really find myself detesting the G1-ified Prime characters, especially Arcee as she was my fave character in that show and this new look is just terrible. I'll always love G1, but I don't want everything to be G1.
It's really frustrating how pick-and-choose-y this line is being with what gets faithful designs (G1, G2, Beast Wars, and Cybertron) and what doesn't (TF: Prime and now the new Car Robots Black Convoy/RiD 2001 Scourge in the Velocitron subline).
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Comment by grimdragon2001 May 20, 2022
This image has me thinking that Legacy Menasor will be close to, if not the same height as CW Menasor. At least close enough to fit in with the CW combiners without any problems.
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compare that to this pic of Netflix Prime and CW Menasor (Sadly from a phone with a scuffed up lens) and you might see what I mean
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quick edit, forgot mine is wearing the Perfect Effect feet so yea, stock will be somewhat shorter
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Comment by -Kanrabat- May 21, 2022
CW Menasor was some sort of weird mutated thing. Legacy Menasor is the one that I always wanted as the OFFICIAL one. 3P keeps making it over and over. It was about time HASTAK took a clue.
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Comment by Sentinel_Primal May 21, 2022
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I was already hyped for Menasor, this image just makes me more excited. He looks nice and solid. Hoping they do a G2 version as well. Also, I'm really hoping Motormaster is compatible with ER Prime's trailer cause while it's silly, I think it'd be neat to have Motormaster pulling Nemesis Prime's trailer from the Netflix line, or having him haul the fuel tanker from Legacy Prime and/or Scourge
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Comment by Sowndwave76 May 21, 2022
These photos have upped my excitement as well... I was happy enough just based on the appearance.
I'm really digging Menasor's head/face sculpt. From what I can see, that is all really on point!!
My only critique as of right now are the "grates" of the knee areas... I understand that used less plastic, but that design is a bit weak.
Other than that, I love the design. The combining system for the limbs, the torso...
I'd say Hastak really upped their game for this set.
And if this ends up being as solid and sturdy and poseable as a couple of those photos make him look, then this is going to be one incredible combiner.
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Comment by Munkky May 21, 2022
I found the three Legacy Beasts at my local Smyths Toys today, and bought Nightprowler. I've never disliked the Kingdom Cheetor mould as much as many others do, and Nightprowler is a good use of the mould. Granted the yellow on the helmet and shoulders doesn't match the grey, but he looks nice enough in beast mode. I'm undecided on whether or not to get Buzzsaw and Sandstorm, but there were only a couple left of each so they must be selling well.
While I was there I also noticed they're stocking solid cases of Kickback and Skids, about six or seven of each on the shelf, but no Drag Strip or Arcee so far. I was tempted to pick up a Skids, he does look nice, but I eventually chose not to. Is Skids worth getting?
Also, I couldn't help but laugh, but my Smyths had Kingdom Blaster and Legacy Blaster right next to each other on the shelf, Legacy was full price at £29.99 but Kingdom was on discount for £20.99. To of the same product, in different packaging, next to each other, but one is nearly £10 cheaper. :lol:
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Comment by sol magnus May 21, 2022
grimdragon2001 wrote:This image has me thinking that Legacy Menasor will be close to, if not the same height as CW Menasor. At least close enough to fit in with the CW combiners without any problems.
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compare that to this pic of Netflix Prime and CW Menasor (Sadly from a phone with a scuffed up lens) and you might see what I mean
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quick edit, forgot mine is wearing the Perfect Effect feet so yea, stock will be somewhat shorter

Just eyeballing it, but it seems like CW Menasor will be a little bit shorter than Legacy. But we shall see.
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Comment by blackeyedprime May 21, 2022
Height wise he should work fine with other CW bots if a bit taller, I always had to extend the legs on them to make them look proportionate with their elbow joints or just leave the vehicles compressed on the arms/legs for a stubby g1 look. Just had a quick play with my CW one and I still like it enough to keep it.

I still really don't like legacy drag strips design or that even with multiple upgrade kits he still looks bad but I'm kind of tempted to get this menasor.
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Comment by Sabrblade May 21, 2022
It's basically the same height as CW Menasor, as Jetfire's the same height as all of the CW Combiners, and (for further reference) the same height as the likes of G1 God Ginrai, Beast Machines Ultra class Nightscream (he was tall), RID'01 Omega Prime, Armada Super-Base Optimus Prime, Armada Tidal Wave, Masterpiece MP-1 Optimus Prime, Masterpiece Ultra Magnus, Masterpiece Star Saber, Adventure TAV21 Optimus Prime, Adventure TAV33 Optimus Prime Supreme Mode, and Takara Legends God Ginrai (all of these guys were in the 11-12-inch-tall height range).
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Comment by ZeroWolf May 21, 2022
blackeyedprime wrote:Height wise he should work fine with other CW bots if a bit taller, I always had to extend the legs on them to make them look proportionate with their elbow joints or just leave the vehicles compressed on the arms/legs for a stubby g1 look. Just had a quick play with my CW one and I still like it enough to keep it.

I still really don't like legacy drag strips design or that even with multiple upgrade kits he still looks bad but I'm kind of tempted to get this menasor.

If you're going to get it, make a decision quick before after market prices make it for you.
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Comment by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 May 21, 2022
When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!
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Comment by Autobot N May 21, 2022
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!
On the CW figure yes, but for some stupid reason the G1 cartoon just slapped the cars onto the backs of the legs instead of having Breakdown and Wildrider make up the entire leg like the G1 toy. They still had the tops of the cars facing backwards, but at least the front of the legs looked distinct because of Breakdown's and Wildrider's chests. But because of the G1 show we're stuck with this stupid design.

Switching the top of the legs' vehicle modes to the front of the Combiner legs was one of my favorite changes from Combiner Wars, it's a shame any future Legacy combiners probably won't keep it
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Comment by Kurona May 21, 2022
grimdragon2001 wrote:This image has me thinking that Legacy Menasor will be close to, if not the same height as CW Menasor. At least close enough to fit in with the CW combiners without any problems.

Since Legacy Menasor is shown here to be pretty much the exact same neck-height as Siege Jetfire, we can use previous Siege Jetfire comparisons to see how Menasor stacks up to CW combiners. He seems to actually come out very slightly taller; though I imagine if you have say CW Computron/UW Baldigus' feet or 3P feet, it'll be close to the exact same height. Not bad if you want to have him posed with Superion or Bruticus straight away!

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Comment by Sentinel_Primal May 21, 2022
Autobot N wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!
On the CW figure yes, but for some stupid reason the G1 cartoon just slapped the cars onto the backs of the legs instead of having Breakdown and Wildrider make up the entire leg like the G1 toy. They still had the tops of the cars facing backwards, but at least the front of the legs looked distinct because of Breakdown's and Wildrider's chests. But because of the G1 show we're stuck with this stupid design.

Switching the top of the legs' vehicle modes to the front of the Combiner legs was one of my favorite changes from Combiner Wars, it's a shame any future Legacy combiners probably won't keep it

When we heard about Legacy Menasor, I'd hoped that there would be some options for display to let him either be Sunbow accurate, or toy accurate. I was hoping for an alternate chest, head, and leg transformation. Obviously it's not happening, but at least if you have the CW leg bots, you can kinda get the cars facing forward
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Comment by sol magnus May 21, 2022
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!
On the CW figure yes, but for some stupid reason the G1 cartoon just slapped the cars onto the backs of the legs instead of having Breakdown and Wildrider make up the entire leg like the G1 toy. They still had the tops of the cars facing backwards, but at least the front of the legs looked distinct because of Breakdown's and Wildrider's chests. But because of the G1 show we're stuck with this stupid design.

Switching the top of the legs' vehicle modes to the front of the Combiner legs was one of my favorite changes from Combiner Wars, it's a shame any future Legacy combiners probably won't keep it

When we heard about Legacy Menasor, I'd hoped that there would be some options for display to let him either be Sunbow accurate, or toy accurate. I was hoping for an alternate chest, head, and leg transformation. Obviously it's not happening, but at least if you have the CW leg bots, you can kinda get the cars facing forward

I know what display preference you have, but the cars aren't facing forward on either the Sunbow show OR the G1 toy.
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Comment by Hellscream9999 May 21, 2022
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!
On the CW figure yes, but for some stupid reason the G1 cartoon just slapped the cars onto the backs of the legs instead of having Breakdown and Wildrider make up the entire leg like the G1 toy. They still had the tops of the cars facing backwards, but at least the front of the legs looked distinct because of Breakdown's and Wildrider's chests. But because of the G1 show we're stuck with this stupid design.

Switching the top of the legs' vehicle modes to the front of the Combiner legs was one of my favorite changes from Combiner Wars, it's a shame any future Legacy combiners probably won't keep it

When we heard about Legacy Menasor, I'd hoped that there would be some options for display to let him either be Sunbow accurate, or toy accurate. I was hoping for an alternate chest, head, and leg transformation. Obviously it's not happening, but at least if you have the CW leg bots, you can kinda get the cars facing forward

The lower legs detach and the cars form the heels of the combiner, so you can literally turn them around, you lose knee's but you should be able to display it with cars facing forward. I think it was mentioned in the article that it doesn't work with the CW figures, but it wasn't obvious to me what they meant.
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Comment by Hellscream9999 May 21, 2022
I wouldn't have minded if they had painted menasors lower legs a little, going animation accurate all grey, was not a great idea
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Comment by Sabrblade May 21, 2022
For additional reference:

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Comment by Till-all-R1 May 21, 2022
Menasor does look pretty cool, I just won't be building him myself as I'm only getting Motormaster and Wild Rider. I simply don't have the shelf space for it.

william-james88 wrote:Most Beast Wars fans are way past 30

Frankly speaking this was probably the best Transformers show ever, and I say that as a G1 fan because I recognize the old cartoon wasn't of the best quality on several fronts. However as a kid it was fun to mindlessly watch. Now by the time BW came around I was a young adult and had essentially moved on from toys and cartoons, mostly. But by some chance I caught this show on accident really liked it and stayed with it until the end when it morphed into a show I didn't much care for called Beat Machines.

I've tried to watch Universe, RID, Prime, Armada etc. but they just never appealed to me. None of them did until the Netflix Trilogy came along. So now I'd say it's almost a tie between BW and the Netflix trilogy on the best shows I've seen.

That all said my being a big fan of the show it doesn't compel me to buy the Beast Wars toys. So I'm probably a very odd duck.
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