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Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Episode 7 'Darkest Hour' Now Online

Posted by Va'al Sep 13, 2016 at 9:29am CDT 42,821 views
Another Tuesday, another episode of the Machinima Transformers: Combiner Wars animated series: Episode 7 - Darkest Hour - shows out more about Starscream's plan, the Enigma of combination, and how Windblade, Optimus and Megatron deal with everything else going on. For US viewers, you can stream the episode here - for some non-US viewers, there will be a YouTube upload later today on the official Machinima channel here.

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Comment by o.supreme Sep 13, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:IDW is garbage, has been since day one.
Not this again.
Lemme guess, this is gonna lead to another eventual round of "They should bring back to G1 cartoon!" again, isn't it. >:oP


I doubt it...the reasons for bringing back the original animated series are much more valid than just disappointment with some aspects of IDW, but as I've stated many times, I know it will never happen...thus we have things like THIS...

CW episode 7...yeeesh what a mess...every time they give us a glimpse of hope...at what might *possibly* be something cool...they go and muck it up. I know this series is completely its own continuity...but some of the series creators saw this as their "vision" of how the original series might have continued....man...what is wrong with people?

Also congrats on Windblade...for the first time they have created a character that, *if* she is dead (which is doubtful), nobody cares. Unlike Maxima..I think we were supposed to care about Windblade...nope not feeling it.
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Comment by Tyrannacon Sep 13, 2016
I have no idea what to make of that episode. :-?

May need to watch it a few more times. I take it the next one is the final in the series then?
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Comment by Autobot N Sep 13, 2016
*sees Windblade "die"*
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Comment by Big Grim Sep 13, 2016
Galactic Prime wrote:No, but it's no Dreamwave.


Thank goodness for that! While DW did help kickstart Transformers comics again, they ended poorly. I do not miss DW. IDW has been excellent for a long, long time and I actively look forward to my next issues of TAAO and MTMTE (soon to be Lost Light.).
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Comment by o.supreme Sep 13, 2016
20 years from now...if we are speaking of significant hero deaths in Transformers fiction there will be Optimus in TF:TM, Dinobot in BW "Code of Hero" and....


not Windblade in CW


as for DW all I will say is this...too many people cannot separate Pat Lee from DW. Yes he was a crook, and is a terrible person. But the stories that DW as a company (the authors and TRUE artists ) were developing were pretty darn good. I really miss their G1 ongoing, though it only got 10 (or so) issues before getting cancelled, I liked the world they were building better than current IDW.
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Comment by william-james88 Sep 13, 2016
o.supreme wrote:20 years from now...if we are speaking of significant hero deaths in Transformers fiction there will be Optimus in TF:TM, Dinobot in BW "Code of Hero" and....


Skids :-(


EDIT: And Ratchet? I found that pretty damn sad in AOE. Brutal too.
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Comment by Sigma Magnus Sep 13, 2016
Well that was...something. :HEADHURTS:
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Comment by Sabrblade Sep 13, 2016
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:20 years from now...if we are speaking of significant hero deaths in Transformers fiction there will be Optimus in TF:TM, Dinobot in BW "Code of Hero" and....


Skids :-(


EDIT: And Ratchet? I found that pretty damn sad in AOE. Brutal too.
Inferno, guys. Inferno.

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Never forget.
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Comment by o.supreme Sep 13, 2016
william-james88 wrote:And Ratchet? I found that pretty damn sad in AOE. Brutal too.


I agree 100%...don't know if it resonates with as many people though...I guess w'll know in time.

As for comics...and you can blame this on Marvel & DC...but I don't get emotional at death in comics anymore...
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Comment by Randomhero Sep 13, 2016
o.supreme wrote:20 years from now...if we are speaking of significant hero deaths in Transformers fiction there will be Optimus in TF:TM, Dinobot in BW "Code of Hero" and....


not Windblade in CW


as for DW all I will say is this...too many people cannot separate Pat Lee from DW. Yes he was a crook, and is a terrible person. But the stories that DW as a company (the authors and TRUE artists ) were developing were pretty darn good. I really miss their G1 ongoing, though it only got 10 (or so) issues before getting cancelled, I liked the world they were building better than current IDW.



Yeah but even without thinking about their terrible business practices, they weren't doing anything amazing in the comics. I'll never understand why DW was so compelled to introduce characters in their toy waves like they did. Brad Mick retconned the first story so that only the 1984 bots and cons were on earth, made all the triple changers shockwaves personal squad, turned the 85 car bots into a council that leads cybertron with no regards to their personalities, made all the 86 movie characters a rebellion unit against Shockwave. For whatever reason they introduced characters in waves like they were coming to stores and they weren't. Dreamwave tossed characters in roles that did not fit their personalities just to place them in the waves they were released in back in the 80s. Ex grapple and Red Alert apparently can become leaders of Cybertron. And while yes, IDW has done complete 180s of characters personalities they're not desperately trying to recreate the feeling of the cartoon like DW was doing.

Looking back on it, it really felt like DW had no future plans for Transformers. By year 3 they were already heading toward Unicron and already introduced most of the G1 transformers. IDW has been around for 11 years and is still making long term plans. Season 2 of MTMTE just wrapped and ended plot threads Roberts seeded back in 2012 in chaos and stuff that was in Bullets in LSTOW from 2010.

You'd have to really try to work hard to convince anyone DW was thinking ahead with long term plans. Mick and Patyck had some plans but every time they were seeding something, Furman was countering it with War Within. Example being triple changers.
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Comment by Big Grim Sep 13, 2016
o.supreme wrote:But the stories that DW as a company (the authors and TRUE artists ) were developing were pretty darn good. I really miss their G1 ongoing, though it only got 10 (or so) issues before getting cancelled, I liked the world they were building better than current IDW.

It basically tried to continue the original G1 prior to season 2 after a fashion (except for random Superion.). There were a good few entertaining stories, sure, but honestly, I have been enjoying IDW's total relaunch a lot better. Starting it all up again in modern times, it's gotten progressively better. Most of RiD and damn near all of MTMTE has been outta this world good. I mean heck, MTMTE has won awards! While some of DW was good (War Within was amazing) I am more than happy with IDW and how they've reinvented the brand.

Randomhero wrote:Yeah but even without thinking about their terrible business practices, they weren't doing anything amazing in the comics. I'll never understand why DW was so compelled to introduce characters in their toy waves like they did. Brad Mick retconned the first story so that only the 1984 bots and cons were on earth, made all the triple changers shockwaves personal squad, turned the 85 car bots into a council that leads cybertron with no regards to their personalities, made all the 86 movie characters a rebellion unit against Shockwave. For whatever reason they introduced characters in waves like they were coming to stores and they weren't. Dreamwave tossed characters in roles that did not fit their personalities just to place them in the waves they were released in back in the 80s. Ex grapple and Red Alert apparently can become leaders of Cybertron. And while yes, IDW has done complete 180s of characters personalities they're not desperately trying to recreate the feeling of the cartoon like DW was doing.

Looking back on it, it really felt like DW had no future plans for Transformers. By year 3 they were already heading toward Unicron and already introduced most of the G1 transformers. IDW has been around for 11 years and is still making long term plans. Season 2 of MTMTE just wrapped and ended plot threads Roberts seeded back in 2012 in chaos and stuff that was in Bullets in LSTOW from 2010.

You'd have to really try to work hard to convince anyone DW was thinking ahead with long term plans. Mick and Patyck had some plans but every time they were seeding something, Furman was countering it with War Within. Example being triple changers.

All very good points.
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Comment by william-james88 Sep 13, 2016
Big Grim wrote:
o.supreme wrote:But the stories that DW as a company (the authors and TRUE artists ) were developing were pretty darn good. I really miss their G1 ongoing, though it only got 10 (or so) issues before getting cancelled, I liked the world they were building better than current IDW.

It basically tried to continue the original G1 prior to the 86 movie and season 3 after a fashion. There were a good few entertaining stories, sure, but honestly, I have been enjoying IDW's total relaunch a lot better. Starting it all up again in modern times, it's gotten progressively better. Most of RiD and damn near all of MTMTE has been outta this world good. I mean heck, MTMTE has won awards! While some of DW was good (War Within was amazing) I am more than happy with IDW and how they've reinvented the brand.

I have issues with the RID. I had a really tough time gettin through Dark Cybertron. I also have a tough time seeing Rattrap interact with Starscream, but thats just me.
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Comment by Big Grim Sep 13, 2016
william-james88 wrote:I have issues with the RID. I had a really tough time gettin through Dark Cybertron. I also have a tough time seeing Rattrap interact with Starscream, but thats just me.

RID had it's issues, sure. It's been better of late though it has seemed to keep building up to something and fizzling out before it gets there. I think everyone had a hard time getting through Dark Cybertron. That was rough.

MTMTE is my primary read. It's been great fun and they've done amazing things with Megatron and the Lost Light's crew. TAAO has been slow but the preview we just saw has me pretty stoked! I quite like Rattrap and other continuity characters appearing. I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.
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Comment by william-james88 Sep 13, 2016
Big Grim wrote:MTMTE is my primary read. It's been great fun and they've done amazing things with Megatron and the Lost Light's crew. TAAO has been slow but the preview we just saw has me pretty stoked! I quite like Rattrap and other continuity characters appearing. I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.

Is it just me or does that voice sound like Phil Hartman?
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Comment by Randomhero Sep 13, 2016
Big Grim wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I have issues with the RID. I had a really tough time gettin through Dark Cybertron. I also have a tough time seeing Rattrap interact with Starscream, but thats just me.

RID had it's issues, sure. It's been better of late though it has seemed to keep building up to something and fizzling out before it gets there. I think everyone had a hard time getting through Dark Cybertron. That was rough.

MTMTE is my primary read. It's been great fun and they've done amazing things with Megatron and the Lost Light's crew. TAAO has been slow but the preview we just saw has me pretty stoked! I quite like Rattrap and other continuity characters appearing. I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.



I love RID, it's my primary and MTMTE is my secondary. I can see how it flips with people. RID is about plot while MTMTE is about character for the most part.

Only issue I've had with RID is that it easily forgets characters it introduces. Remember Zetca? Tappet? Blurr? DIRGE?!?!? Dirge was extremely important to the first 17 issues and now he may get a cameo in Till All Are One. Then again the focus on RID isn't on Cybertron anymore.
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Comment by Kurona Sep 13, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZOKHT1t0U

I... I really don't have a clue what's going on anymore. It's just a lot of things happening.
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Comment by Big Grim Sep 13, 2016
william-james88 wrote:
Big Grim wrote:I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.

Is it just me or does that voice sound like Phil Hartman?

Holy cow! He really does! I'd never made that connection before!

Randomhero wrote:
Big Grim wrote:MTMTE is my primary read. It's been great fun and they've done amazing things with Megatron and the Lost Light's crew. TAAO has been slow but the preview we just saw has me pretty stoked! I quite like Rattrap and other continuity characters appearing. I love that Knockout is on the Council of Worlds. I admit, I totally hear his voice when I read his lines.



I love RID, it's my primary and MTMTE is my secondary. I can see how it flips with people. RID is about plot while MTMTE is about character for the most part.

Only issue I've had with RID is that it easily forgets characters it introduces. Remember Zetca? Tappet? Blurr? DIRGE?!?!? Dirge was extremely important to the first 17 issues and now he may get a cameo in Till All Are One. Then again the focus on RID isn't on Cybertron anymore.

Yeah, I hear that. MTMTE has a tighter focus on the individuals than ex-RiD. I honestly couldn't tell you who Zetca or Tappet are. I wonder where Dirge went? I assume Blurr is still tending to his bar.
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Comment by Kurona Sep 13, 2016
I'm starting to feel really weird about this series.

Like, it's bad; no doubt about it (and unless the last episode is a miracle of writing that's not going to change). And there's so many things on this episode I could comment on and criticise - the half-hearted undeserved death scene, the original 'ultimate combiner' design for Starscream before he broke up being really bland, just everything in general being an unexplained mess...

But I can't. I can't really bring myself to. I don't really feel anger or disappointment when I watch this anymore; I just feel kind of... empty. Like. There's just nothing. It's just there, and it's bad, and it's embarrassing. And it's nothing.
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Comment by o.supreme Sep 13, 2016
Randomhero wrote:they weren't doing anything amazing in the comics.


Exactly how I feel about IDW since All hail megatron ended.

Randomhero wrote:I'll never understand why DW was so compelled to introduce characters in their toy waves like they did.


I'll never understand why IDW just has characters show up randomly without any proper introduction or backstory

Randomhero wrote:characters in roles that did not fit their personalities

Exactly how I feel about IDW

Randomhero wrote:Looking back on it, it really felt like DW had no future plans for Transformers. By year 3 they were already heading toward Unicron and already introduced most of the G1 transformers.


You tell me after all of Furmans dull-as-dishwater "tion" series IDW had long term plans?--They got lucky, switched up some new writers and artists (several from DW btw)...and had the funds to keep going. The only difference is the fact that DW had a terrible business model. Had DW been legit financially...I could very easily see it still around today. Had IDW been solvent financially. I can see them as a distant memory... It is simply a matter of funding in this case...

Just like Spectacular Spider-Man/ Avengers EMH...most agreed were great animated series...however MARVEL pulls funding and gives it to Disney--the result...two vastly inferior series, though funded with deeper pockets, has the ability to go on for a long time.

Except in this case...I know most fans are pleased with current IDW...I get that...but I can still dream about "what if" DW continued...
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Comment by fenrir72 Sep 13, 2016
Oh memory lane. All this talk about DW and not Machinima. Btw, I pegged Underbase saga on the mark.
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