william-james88 wrote:We thank fellow Seibertronian Nuclearxpotato for letting us know of more images of Agent Ravage that have been posted on Facebook and Chinese social media. These show us that Agent Ravage is indeed based on the Kingdom Cheetor mold with most of the upper body being a completely new design with a different Transformation. The result is a rather organic looking big cat with guns on his hips. It's like an interpretation of what G1 Ravage would look like if the cassette turned into an organic animal rather than a robotic looking one.
We also see the instructions which show that this was indeed planned as a SDCC exclusive. While the world exclusive is thrown around, we have yet to confirm that this will only be obtainable at one retailer. Afterall, the Refraktor set was not an exclusive, so maybe this won't be either.
Emerje wrote:
Bumblebee - Don't really need this, probably give his weapons to Netflix Bee so his weapons won't look like the rest on the shelf. I get why they didn't use the Beetle mold, people seem to forget that vehicles in movies are basically product placement for a brand and the toys are just some bonus synergy and doesn't mean free use of the license. But I am surprised they didn't use the same shade of yellow as the Netflix Bee to keep him from looking like Hubcap. Hasbro, you should know better.
Emerje
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Looks good. I still await the MP figure that does this though:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Can you confirm that Fangry doesn't come with any guns?
AcademyofDrX wrote:Nemesis Reformatted wrote:NEVER used to be like this. We NEVER had this many exclusives before. This is a totally new beast.
And I'm pretty sure people who's hobby is fishing or golfing or sewing don't have to go through this s**t.
I'm not going to say that you shouldn't be mad, but this part is generally wrong. This isn't specific to toys, this is a confluence of a few factors: supply chain pressure from the pandemic, the rise of bots to control access to limited products, and the resulting opportunity for arbitrage to become a viable side hustle. That's to say nothing of the increasingly predatory approach to capitalism at a macro level.
I don't know about fishing, but the crafting community has had price and resource pressures from pandemic demand for cloth materials. It's impossible to buy the newest video game consoles at retailers. PC gaming is challenged because graphic cards are scalped for aspiring crypto billionaires. There are apps dedicated to getting hot sneakers. I could go on.
Yes, toy makers are like any capitalist enterprise based on collecting where FOMO inflates demand to pressure customers into buying. But even when we're talking about retailer-specific exclusives, mass retail products like Transformers are generally not intended to be impossible to get. I genuinely believe that Hasbro wants everyone who wants a toy to be able to get one, but they don't want extra unsold stock, and they can't control how retailers put them out.
This isn't just me being a sucker, you can see how they've continued to push out Cobra Island product to meet the extreme demand. Many of their Pulse exclusives have been restocked after the initial release. The same thing is happening with other toy lines from other companies like with MotU and NECA's TMNT, though there are exceptions.
None of this should make you feel any better. Collecting is an expensive, high effort hobby in the best of times, and these aren't that. But if being a lifelong toy fan has taught me anything, it's that the number of new exciting toys in the future always outnumbers the unattainable grails.
Sabrblade wrote:I am honestly a little baffled that they made Ravage turn into an organic jaguar instead of a metallic one. When he showed up in the show, he was in his Cybertronian body, not a newly-scanned Earth one. His head was that of a metallic cat, not an organic one.
I'm pretty sure no one was asking for a "What if Ravage had scanned an organic Earth mode?" hypothetical toy. And if they were, that's pretty much what Shadow Panther is for.
I think you're a little backwards, there. In Takara's market, Shadow Panther and Ravage were always separate individuals who coexisted in the same toyline. It was Hasbro who tried to make them into the same guy, with their "Tripredacus Agent" toy and later selling the original Shadow Panther under that name.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I am honestly a little baffled that they made Ravage turn into an organic jaguar instead of a metallic one. When he showed up in the show, he was in his Cybertronian body, not a newly-scanned Earth one. His head was that of a metallic cat, not an organic one.
I'm pretty sure no one was asking for a "What if Ravage had scanned an organic Earth mode?" hypothetical toy. And if they were, that's pretty much what Shadow Panther is for.
This. For all the exposure Takara gave to Shadow Panther/Tripredacus Agent. Ravage is the only design variation that made it into a show. So there isn't really a purpose to both Shadow Panther and Ravage coexisting, in the same line, with the same altmode.
Sabrblade wrote:I think you're a little backwards, there. In Takara's market, Shadow Panther and Ravage were always separate individuals who coexisted in the same toyline. It was Hasbro who tried to make them into the same guy, with their "Tripredacus Agent" toy and later selling the original Shadow Panther under that name.
Sabrblade wrote:I am honestly a little baffled that they made Ravage turn into an organic jaguar instead of a metallic one. When he showed up in the show, he was in his Cybertronian body, not a newly-scanned Earth one. His head was that of a metallic cat, not an organic one.
I'm pretty sure no one was asking for a "What if Ravage had scanned an organic Earth mode?" hypothetical toy. And if they were, that's pretty much what Shadow Panther is for.
I'm the one who said that. Ravage did have Tigatron's beast head in the show, but it was modified to have a metallic sheen instead of fur.Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I am honestly a little baffled that they made Ravage turn into an organic jaguar instead of a metallic one. When he showed up in the show, he was in his Cybertronian body, not a newly-scanned Earth one. His head was that of a metallic cat, not an organic one.
I'm pretty sure no one was asking for a "What if Ravage had scanned an organic Earth mode?" hypothetical toy. And if they were, that's pretty much what Shadow Panther is for.
Idk I thought this new toy looked pretty show accurate from the head
Wasn't it the original toy that had the metallic panther head?
I could've sworn I saw someone mention earlier that ravage in the show had Tigatrons Beast head as his robot head
Sabrblade wrote:I'm the one who said that. Ravage did have Tigatron's beast head in the show, but it was modified to have a metallic sheen instead of fur.Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I am honestly a little baffled that they made Ravage turn into an organic jaguar instead of a metallic one. When he showed up in the show, he was in his Cybertronian body, not a newly-scanned Earth one. His head was that of a metallic cat, not an organic one.
I'm pretty sure no one was asking for a "What if Ravage had scanned an organic Earth mode?" hypothetical toy. And if they were, that's pretty much what Shadow Panther is for.
Idk I thought this new toy looked pretty show accurate from the head
Wasn't it the original toy that had the metallic panther head?
I could've sworn I saw someone mention earlier that ravage in the show had Tigatrons Beast head as his robot head
The original toy turned into a Transmetal cat, so logically this new toy ought to have done something similar, even without the metallic chrome paint. As is, the beast mode being organic and furry instead of mechanical makes it redundant with Shadow Panther's beast mode.
Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm the one who said that. Ravage did have Tigatron's beast head in the show, but it was modified to have a metallic sheen instead of fur.Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I am honestly a little baffled that they made Ravage turn into an organic jaguar instead of a metallic one. When he showed up in the show, he was in his Cybertronian body, not a newly-scanned Earth one. His head was that of a metallic cat, not an organic one.
I'm pretty sure no one was asking for a "What if Ravage had scanned an organic Earth mode?" hypothetical toy. And if they were, that's pretty much what Shadow Panther is for.
Idk I thought this new toy looked pretty show accurate from the head
Wasn't it the original toy that had the metallic panther head?
I could've sworn I saw someone mention earlier that ravage in the show had Tigatrons Beast head as his robot head
The original toy turned into a Transmetal cat, so logically this new toy ought to have done something similar, even without the metallic chrome paint. As is, the beast mode being organic and furry instead of mechanical makes it redundant with Shadow Panther's beast mode.
Ahhhhhh okay I understand what you meant now
I suppose since they were reusing cheetor they had to stick with the organic beast mode because of the beast legs, as opposed to more extensive retooling
A metallic head wouldve been more accurate but I don't mind this one so far
Quizas (perhaps) as someone mentioned earlier, Shadow Panther will hopefully have some grey and black to be recognizable as a leopard Panther rather than just a black cheetor. Time will tell I guess
On the bright side, ravage is taller than cheetor, and Shadow Panther by that token. I wonder if tigatron will be taller or not
Tigatron will be a separate mold Voyager class.Razorbeast88 wrote:I wonder if tigatron will be taller or not
ZeroWolf wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm the one who said that. Ravage did have Tigatron's beast head in the show, but it was modified to have a metallic sheen instead of fur.Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I am honestly a little baffled that they made Ravage turn into an organic jaguar instead of a metallic one. When he showed up in the show, he was in his Cybertronian body, not a newly-scanned Earth one. His head was that of a metallic cat, not an organic one.
I'm pretty sure no one was asking for a "What if Ravage had scanned an organic Earth mode?" hypothetical toy. And if they were, that's pretty much what Shadow Panther is for.
Idk I thought this new toy looked pretty show accurate from the head
Wasn't it the original toy that had the metallic panther head?
I could've sworn I saw someone mention earlier that ravage in the show had Tigatrons Beast head as his robot head
The original toy turned into a Transmetal cat, so logically this new toy ought to have done something similar, even without the metallic chrome paint. As is, the beast mode being organic and furry instead of mechanical makes it redundant with Shadow Panther's beast mode.
Ahhhhhh okay I understand what you meant now
I suppose since they were reusing cheetor they had to stick with the organic beast mode because of the beast legs, as opposed to more extensive retooling
A metallic head wouldve been more accurate but I don't mind this one so far
Quizas (perhaps) as someone mentioned earlier, Shadow Panther will hopefully have some grey and black to be recognizable as a leopard Panther rather than just a black cheetor. Time will tell I guess
On the bright side, ravage is taller than cheetor, and Shadow Panther by that token. I wonder if tigatron will be taller or not
Tigatron will be a Voyager Class toy, and likely taller the cheetor to keep with the scale guide (basically they weren't the same height on the show, the toys won't be either)
Sabrblade wrote:His head was that of a metallic cat, not an organic one.
