More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump

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We return to comics artist Robert Sikoryak, whose Transformers-related work we first saw here, for his next project - of a more political bend than the previous Terms and Conditions adaptation, to say the least: The Unquotable Trump. With throwbacks to 90s comics such as Godzilla, 300, Black Widow and Transformers: Generation 2, among many others, Sikoryak has used quotes from the current president of the US on drawings that portray him as a (mostly villainous) character in those books - giving us the likes of Trumpzilla, Trump SuspenStories, The Unquotable Trump, and Trumpsformers: Generalization 1! Take a look below at the Jhiaxus portrayal and an explanation of the process, and find out more here.

After the November 2016 election, Robert Sikoryak felt an urge he couldn’t resist. Referring to the victory of Donald Trump, the award-winning cartoonist says “I really just wanted to put something out in the world that just said, ‘I object.’” That work is The Unquotable Trump, a collection that uses some of the president’s most infamous utterances on classic comic book covers.

[..]

When I began the project, I only wanted to focus on what he said that was objectionable while he was running for president. So after I made that mini and was expanding into the book, I was trying to touch on other topics that he covered, other opinions that he expressed that ran the gamut of what someone running for president might say. I’m really kind of fascinated by 90's “mainstream” comics, the density of the drawing, the attitude, and all of the radicalness of them and I thought this quote was a good summation of his military policy. Saying he was the most militaristic person in the room, he always has to be the best one, or the “most” one.

And this Transformers character [Commander Jhiaxus], he’s actually a character who’s outside the Decepticons and the Autobots. He’s from a third group, a different faction that’s completely untrustworthy. I was like “Yeah, that sounds like [Trump]!” I was really happy I chose that character because i didn’t want to put him in the place of one of the Autobots. I really wanted him to be either the villain or the loose cannon. Most of the covers work that way. There’s probably a few I’ve misconstrued, but I hope that if you had the original context, you’d be like, “Oh, I get it” with regard to his relationship to the characters.

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Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919644)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 3rd, 2017 @ 5:20am CDT

Trump as Jhiaxus? That's actually not a bad analogy. But then who is the Liege Maximo? Also, it would have been even better if he replaced Megatron with Obama or Hillary. :lol:

It would have been accurate, anyway.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919647)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on November 3rd, 2017 @ 6:52am CDT

I think that Trump was clearly in mind with IDW's most recent take on Sentinel Prime: he's a giant orange guy who looses his head, wants to make Cybertron "great again" by getting rid of the colonists &
Decepticons (immigrants), and was generally seen by most as a douche.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919648)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 3rd, 2017 @ 6:55am CDT

That just looks like he photshopped the old comic. Not really what I'd consider an homage.

Plus the quote he chose would be so much better coming from G1 Starscream.

Edit: Although it sort of makes sense if the G1 Decepticons are supposed to be the GOP and the G2 Decepticons are the Alt Right.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919649)
Posted by No One on November 3rd, 2017 @ 7:07am CDT

Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919650)
Posted by Hero Alpha on November 3rd, 2017 @ 7:23am CDT

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

Yeah I know. I am expecting a mod to post in here to knock off all the political stuff any second. Oh wait, lol.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919652)
Posted by primalxconvoy on November 3rd, 2017 @ 8:05am CDT

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919653)
Posted by Microraptor on November 3rd, 2017 @ 8:13am CDT

Consider me amused! At least it's not another #4 homage.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919656)
Posted by Super Megatron on November 3rd, 2017 @ 8:53am CDT

Trump is Optimus Prime and they should had colored him in red, white, and blue instead.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919657)
Posted by Super Megatron on November 3rd, 2017 @ 8:54am CDT

MR Optimus Prime wrote:Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

I know, right? Trump is NOT Jhiaxus - he's more Optimus Prime, if anything.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919658)
Posted by Skritz on November 3rd, 2017 @ 8:58am CDT

Edit: Screw this, I'm editing out my post.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919659)
Posted by gothsaurus on November 3rd, 2017 @ 9:02am CDT

Glad to see this posted. It's still transformers news in spite of the divisive topic. I thought it was really well done. Like him or not, his phrasing does sound like 1980s comic book dialogue written on a pre-teen reading level.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919664)
Posted by joevill on November 3rd, 2017 @ 9:47am CDT

this is awesome! :michaelbay:

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919666)
Posted by Seibertron on November 3rd, 2017 @ 10:02am CDT

Super Megatron wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

I know, right? Trump is NOT Jhiaxus - he's more Optimus Prime, if anything.

You're joking, right? I don't recall Optimus Prime ever saying anything about grabbing women by the pussy, or Trump's relentless bullying of people, calling others losers, "liddle", or worse yet ... calling our fellow Americans "sons of bitches", supports racist views, and the never ending amazing list of horrible things that man has said or done.

Please don't diminish the good image of Optimus Prime by comparing him to that disgraceful man who is soiling the legacy of the Presidency. Trump is an extreme embarrassment to all of us Americans and our country. Hopefully we don't get nuked because of his inability to keep his mouth shut.

In case you need a reminder, here are a few more outrageous and idiotic things Trump has said:

You know what, why link to other websites when I can just link to the source itself in order to view many years worth of some of the scariest words to ever come out of a "President's" mouth. Without further ado ladies and gentleman, I'll let Donald J Trump's extreme idiocy speak for itself: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919671)
Posted by Randomhero on November 3rd, 2017 @ 10:34am CDT

Seibertron wrote:
Super Megatron wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

I know, right? Trump is NOT Jhiaxus - he's more Optimus Prime, if anything.

You're joking, right? I don't recall Optimus Prime ever saying anything about grabbing women by the pussy, or Trump's relentless bullying of people, calling others losers, "liddle", or worse yet ... calling our fellow Americans "sons of bitches", supports racist views, and the never ending amazing list of horrible things that man has said or done.

Please don't diminish the good image of Optimus Prime by comparing him to that disgraceful man who is soiling the legacy of the Presidency. Trump is an extreme embarrassment to all of us Americans and our country. Hopefully we don't get nuked because of his inability to keep his mouth shut.

In case you need a reminder, here are a few more outrageous and idiotic things Trump has said:
http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/entertainment/people/donald-trump-quotes-57213
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/donald-trump-quotes

You know what, why link to other websites when I can just link to the source itself in order to view many years worth of some of the scariest words to ever come out of a "President's" mouth. Without further ado ladies and gentleman, I'll let Donald J Trump's extreme idiocy speak for itself: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

I seem to remember that episode in the 80s where Optimus was in a quintesson court with sexual allegations from Elita-1

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919676)
Posted by n10zguy on November 3rd, 2017 @ 10:39am CDT

Super Megatron wrote:Trump is Optimus Prime and they should had colored him in red, white, and blue instead.

I must have missed the issue where Prime became nothing more than an Alpha whiny little douche who is ineffective and blames everyone else for his own shortcomings.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919691)
Posted by Randomhero on November 3rd, 2017 @ 12:06pm CDT

n10zguy wrote:
Super Megatron wrote:Trump is Optimus Prime and they should had colored him in red, white, and blue instead.

I must have missed the issue where Prime became nothing more than an Alpha whiny little douche who is ineffective and blames everyone else for his own shortcomings.

It was the same issue he built a wall to keep junkions out

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919693)
Posted by ricemazter on November 3rd, 2017 @ 12:27pm CDT

Super Megatron wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

I know, right? Trump is NOT Jhiaxus - he's more Optimus Prime, if anything.

Ugh, just...just no, dude. I'm sure other people will explain why, but just no.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919696)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 3rd, 2017 @ 1:00pm CDT

Moonshot wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

Yeah I know. I am expecting a mod to post in here to knock off all the political stuff any second. Oh wait, lol.

There wasn't a need for mod intervention. Calm discussion is welcomed and encouraged, regardless of topic. Just make sure it doesn't degenerate into a flame war. Everyone has his/her own opinion, respect that individual's right to express it.

Personally, I'm not offended by Trump and the stuff he says, but I do understand why some people are. I wish he was a little more thoughtful considering the position he's in, but I'll take a loudmouth over a conniving manipulator like Hillary or Obama any day.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919697)
Posted by Evil Eye on November 3rd, 2017 @ 1:07pm CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:Personally, I'm not offended by Trump and the stuff he says, but I do understand why some people are. I wish he was a little more thoughtful considering the position he's in, but I'll take a loudmouth over a conniving manipulator like Hillary or Obama any day.

This, pretty much. Trump may be a blowhard, but there are worse things to be. And if we're talking "Stupid things politicians have said" how about Hillary ranting that her supporters weren't working hard enough, and that anyone who opposed her was a "Deplorable"?

Politicians are, with very few exceptions, colossal douchebags. White, black, man, woman, whatever- they're all liars and cheats.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919703)
Posted by Madeus Prime on November 3rd, 2017 @ 1:33pm CDT

I need a full sized copy ASAP.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919704)
Posted by BattleConvoy on November 3rd, 2017 @ 1:38pm CDT

funny but kinda insulting to trump supporters - I wonder if trump is a robot though?

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919706)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 2:02pm CDT

Christ! This is the one place that I thought I could count on not having to hear about Trump. This place was like my escape. And now we have a comic and TF tie-in. And its on the front page, and likely on the banner for a while. :HEADHURTS:

(Note: I'm not criticizing the site for putting something that is relevant to TF-dom, I'm just lamenting that there is no escape from hearing about the a-hole in chief.)

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919707)
Posted by FHDHS1307 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 2:15pm CDT

I was really pleased that everyone in the comments were able to joke around in good faith. This was until (Mr.) Seibertron himself decided to weigh-in.

Honestly, it's very unbecoming of the site owner to so transparently choose a side on a very politicized topic. Of course, he retains the right to say what he wants, but his virtue-signaling is yet another example of people taking Trump as much more than the feckless president and meme he is.

Has Trump's rhetoric spoken to a bigoted, borderline-fascist sect of the electorate? YES.

Is Trump himself actually a fascist? Is there some malicious intent?
My guess is NO.

Ben Shapiro himself said in regards to Trump: "Don't attribute malice when stupidity will do."

Admittedly, I didn't even want to weigh in on this conversation. But the Site Owner's post crossed a line, in my opinion. He put a lot of work into crafting this platform, and a site for Transformers-Fans should be an apolitical place. I'd hate to see users develop a bad taste in their mout over some innocuous (and not-so innocuous) comments...

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919710)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 3rd, 2017 @ 2:32pm CDT

FHDHS1307 wrote:I was really pleased that everyone in the comments were able to joke around in good faith. This was until (Mr.) Seibertron himself decided to weigh-in.

Honestly, it's very unbecoming of the site owner to so transparently choose a side on a very politicized topic. Of course, he retains the right to say what he wants, but his virtue-signaling is yet another example of people taking Trump as much more than the feckless president and meme he is.

Has Trump's rhetoric spoken to a bigoted, borderline-fascist sect of the electorate? YES.

Is Trump himself actually a fascist? Is there some malicious intent?
My guess is NO.

Ben Shapiro himself said in regards to Trump: "Don't attribute malice when stupidity will do."

Admittedly, I didn't even want to weigh in on this conversation. But the Site Owner's post crossed a line, in my opinion. He put a lot of work into crafting this platform, and a site for Transformers-Fans should be an apolitical place. I'd hate to see users develop a bad taste in their mouth over some innocuous (and not-so innocuous) comments...

As you yourself said, he has a right to his opinion. If he doesn't like Trump, that's his choice. The only reason this discussion is taking place is because it's Transformers-related. If those G2 covers weren't involved, we wouldn't be talking about Donald Trump. If you disagree with the administration of this online community, that's unfortunate. But again, as you yourself said, he's the Site Owner. He has the right to express whatever opinion he has, just like we all do. As long as it's done in a civil manner.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919711)
Posted by Deadput on November 3rd, 2017 @ 2:33pm CDT

OH boy the can of words has been opened and spilled all over...

You can't be surprised the thread turned out how it has, there is no other thing that could have happened.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Christ! This is the one place that I thought I could count on not having to hear about Trump. This place was like my escape. And now we have a comic and TF tie-in. And its on the front page, and likely on the banner for a while.

(Note: I'm not criticizing the site for putting something that is relevant to TF-dom, I'm just lamenting that there is no escape from hearing about the a-hole in chief.)

This website was never an escape from anything as I have learned myself, the internet itself is not an escape or bunker heck you have more freedom and escape by just staying off the internet completely.

Reality is a thing and the facts are there is a man named Trump who has said some and did horrible things. (In my opinion Clinton is worse with the whole likely to start a big war with Russia thing with the no fly zones, as well as just being more of a snake then Trump who is simply just a moron and nothing more) no one can escape and the sooner we suck it up and live with the matter the better.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919713)
Posted by ricemazter on November 3rd, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Moonshot wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

Yeah I know. I am expecting a mod to post in here to knock off all the political stuff any second. Oh wait, lol.
There wasn't a need for mod intervention. Calm discussion is welcomed and encouraged, regardless of topic. Just make sure it doesn't degenerate into a flame war. Everyone has his/her own opinion, respect that individual's right to express it.

Personally, I'm not offended by Trump and the stuff he says, but I do understand why some people are. I wish he was a little more thoughtful considering the position he's in, but I'll take a loudmouth over a conniving manipulator like Hillary or Obama any day.

Honestly, I loathe the man and the rest of his administration isn't any better. Hillary did always irk me for various reasons. Obama I liked overall, but he certainly had his faults.

Despite the fact that I detest the man, the logic of posting this news escapes me. Thankfully, people have been less...inflammatory than I would have expected, but I'm waiting for the shoe to drop. Like, I get that he's an established artist who has referenced transformers in his work before, but still...

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919715)
Posted by Seibertron on November 3rd, 2017 @ 2:45pm CDT

FHDHS1307 wrote:I was really pleased that everyone in the comments were able to joke around in good faith. This was until (Mr.) Seibertron himself decided to weigh-in.

Honestly, it's very unbecoming of the site owner to so transparently choose a side on a very politicized topic. Of course, he retains the right to say what he wants, but his virtue-signaling is yet another example of people taking Trump as much more than the feckless president and meme he is.

I have always been fairly upfront about my political views. Wasn't going to say much until I saw someone compare Trump to Optimus Prime, which is really sad to see that anyone could possibly compare that man with a noble fictional character who, for the most part, has represented all that is good (admittedly amongst a never-ending fictional Civil War and most likely excluding the less than noble Bayverse Optimus Prime).

FHDHS1307 wrote:Has Trump's rhetoric spoken to a bigoted, borderline-fascist sect of the electorate? YES.

Is Trump himself actually a fascist? Is there some malicious intent?
My guess is NO.

Donald J Trump wrote:Every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina, and you look at the tremendous — hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here, with really a storm that was just totally overpowering, nobody's ever seen anything like this. What is your death count as of this moment? 17? 16 people certified, 16 people versus in the thousands. You can be very proud of all of your people and all of our people working together. Sixteen versus literally thousands of people. You can be very proud. Everybody around this table and everybody watching can really be very proud of what's taken place in Puerto Rico.

FHDHS1307 wrote:Ben Shapiro himself said in regards to Trump: "Don't attribute malice when stupidity will do."

Shapiro says a lot about Trump. Here's plenty more:

FHDHS1307 wrote:Admittedly, I didn't even want to weigh in on this conversation. But the Site Owner's post crossed a line, in my opinion. He put a lot of work into crafting this platform, and a site for Transformers-Fans should be an apolitical place. I'd hate to see users develop a bad taste in their mout over some innocuous (and not-so innocuous) comments...

I'm not going to sit idly by while someone is comparing Donald Trump to Optimus Prime on Seibertron.com. The "apolitical place" got tossed aside at that moment.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919718)
Posted by FHDHS1307 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 2:56pm CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:
FHDHS1307 wrote:I was really pleased that everyone in the comments were able to joke around in good faith. This was until (Mr.) Seibertron himself decided to weigh-in.

Honestly, it's very unbecoming of the site owner to so transparently choose a side on a very politicized topic. Of course, he retains the right to say what he wants, but his virtue-signaling is yet another example of people taking Trump as much more than the feckless president and meme he is.

Has Trump's rhetoric spoken to a bigoted, borderline-fascist sect of the electorate? YES.

Is Trump himself actually a fascist? Is there some malicious intent?
My guess is NO.

Ben Shapiro himself said in regards to Trump: "Don't attribute malice when stupidity will do."

Admittedly, I didn't even want to weigh in on this conversation. But the Site Owner's post crossed a line, in my opinion. He put a lot of work into crafting this platform, and a site for Transformers-Fans should be an apolitical place. I'd hate to see users develop a bad taste in their mouth over some innocuous (and not-so innocuous) comments...
As you yourself said, he has a right to his opinion. If he doesn't like Trump, that's his choice. The only reason this discussion is taking place is because it's Transformers-related. If those G2 covers weren't involved, we wouldn't be talking about Donald Trump. If you disagree with the administration of this online community, that's unfortunate. But again, as you yourself said, he's the Site Owner. He has the right to express whatever opinion he has, just like we all do. As long as it's done in a civil manner.

All I'm saying is that I feel he has an obligation to not say or type anything that will offend a large swath of his user base. Most of the people here have a thick skin it would seem, so I don't see that happening. Since a Transformers fansite should be apolitical, I see no reason why overtly political posts like his and several others should not be a grey-zone of sorts. (Sorry for the double-negative)

For the sake of transparency, I'll say it: I voted for Trump. Do I like him as the President: Hell, No. As a meme though, he's superb! But I do wish we could stop casting stones at each other.

Between Hillary's "Basket of Deplorables" moment, and Trump's "Grab Her By The P**sy" pronouncements, this was a dogs**t election cycle, and I wish we could stop bringing it up. That goes for Liberals, Leftists, and Conservatives alike.

Earth to Fox-f**king-News: quit reporting on how bad of a candidate Hillary Clinton was. She didn't get elected, so quit bringing her up!

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919720)
Posted by FHDHS1307 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 2:58pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
FHDHS1307 wrote:I was really pleased that everyone in the comments were able to joke around in good faith. This was until (Mr.) Seibertron himself decided to weigh-in.

Honestly, it's very unbecoming of the site owner to so transparently choose a side on a very politicized topic. Of course, he retains the right to say what he wants, but his virtue-signaling is yet another example of people taking Trump as much more than the feckless president and meme he is.

I have always been fairly upfront about my political views. Wasn't going to say much until I saw someone compare Trump to Optimus Prime, which is really sad to see that anyone could possibly compare that man with a noble fictional character who, for the most part, has represented all that is good (admittedly amongst a never-ending fictional Civil War and most likely excluding the less than noble Bayverse Optimus Prime).

FHDHS1307 wrote:Has Trump's rhetoric spoken to a bigoted, borderline-fascist sect of the electorate? YES.

Is Trump himself actually a fascist? Is there some malicious intent?
My guess is NO.

Donald J Trump wrote:Every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina, and you look at the tremendous — hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here, with really a storm that was just totally overpowering, nobody's ever seen anything like this. What is your death count as of this moment? 17? 16 people certified, 16 people versus in the thousands. You can be very proud of all of your people and all of our people working together. Sixteen versus literally thousands of people. You can be very proud. Everybody around this table and everybody watching can really be very proud of what's taken place in Puerto Rico.

FHDHS1307 wrote:Ben Shapiro himself said in regards to Trump: "Don't attribute malice when stupidity will do."

Shapiro says a lot about Trump. Here's plenty more:

FHDHS1307 wrote:Admittedly, I didn't even want to weigh in on this conversation. But the Site Owner's post crossed a line, in my opinion. He put a lot of work into crafting this platform, and a site for Transformers-Fans should be an apolitical place. I'd hate to see users develop a bad taste in their mout over some innocuous (and not-so innocuous) comments...

I'm not going to sit idly by while someone is comparing Donald Trump to Optimus Prime on Seibertron.com. The "apolitical place" got tossed aside at that moment.

To be fair, I think he was memeing, but that's the funny thing with the Internet, isn't it? We never truly know what someone actually means without hearing in person.

Also, I understand and respect that you're the owner. Since you quoted my "apolitical place" phrase, is it to fair to say under ordinary circumstances you agree with me? Isn't it a bit totalitarian to say the rules change when I say so?

But I understand your perspective, and respect where you're coming from; I'll leave off.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919722)
Posted by Seibertron on November 3rd, 2017 @ 3:07pm CDT

FHDHS1307 wrote:All I'm saying is that I feel he has an obligation to not say or type anything that will offend a large swath of his user base.

Let us hope that a "large swath" of the users here are not Trump supporters.

FHDHS1307 wrote:Most of the people here have a thick skin it would seem, so I don't see that happening. Since a Transformers fansite should be apolitical,

Says who?

FHDHS1307 wrote:Between Hillary's "Basket of Deplorables" moment, and Trump's "Grab Her By The P**sy" pronouncements, this was a dogs**t election cycle,

With that, I can agree. I would have been all for Bernie Sanders if he had been about 10 to 20 years younger. I liked Hillary, sort of, but she had a ton of political and personal baggage. I wasn't thrilled about her being the Democratic candidate, though she would have been much more Presidential-acting than Trump and would have retained the dignity that position has held for most of our country's history. I was also done with the whole Clinton-Bush legacy from the past 20 to 30 years. Time for someone new! Can't wait to see what happens in 2020. I can just hear the commercials now about having political hindsight in the year 20/20. :KREMZEEK:

FHDHS1307 wrote:Earth to Fox-f**king-News: quit reporting on how bad of a candidate Hillary Clinton was. She didn't get elected, so quit bringing her up!

It's tough to do that when Trump keeps bringing up "Crooked Hillary", as he likes to call her.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919723)
Posted by partholon on November 3rd, 2017 @ 3:08pm CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Christ! This is the one place that I thought I could count on not having to hear about Trump. This place was like my escape. And now we have a comic and TF tie-in. And its on the front page, and likely on the banner for a while.

(Note: I'm not criticizing the site for putting something that is relevant to TF-dom, I'm just lamenting that there is no escape from hearing about the a-hole in chief.)

just thank christ your not a marvel comics fan man.

theyve RUINED their entire line up having a mental breakdown over the election. they actually seem to hate their readership. i pity anyone watching "thor ragnorok" this weekend who wanders into a comic shop looking to get into his book.

you'll end up with a lecture on feminism instead.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919724)
Posted by Seibertron on November 3rd, 2017 @ 3:08pm CDT

FHDHS1307 wrote:Also, I understand and respect that you're the owner. Since you quoted my "apolitical place" phrase, is it to fair to say under ordinary circumstances you agree with me? Isn't it a bit totalitarian to say the rules change when I say so?

But I understand your perspective, and respect where you're coming from; I'll leave off.

We can agree to disagree. Especially if we can all agree that none of the 2016 candidates can be compared to Optimus Prime!

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919725)
Posted by FHDHS1307 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 3:10pm CDT

Seibertron wrote:
FHDHS1307 wrote:Also, I understand and respect that you're the owner. Since you quoted my "apolitical place" phrase, is it to fair to say under ordinary circumstances you agree with me? Isn't it a bit totalitarian to say the rules change when I say so?

But I understand your perspective, and respect where you're coming from; I'll leave off.

We can agree to disagree. Especially if we can all agree that none of the 2016 candidates can be compared to Optimus Prime!

Cheers to that, mate!

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919736)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on November 3rd, 2017 @ 3:57pm CDT

This is funny all, but can we get this a-hole's face off the front page? I hate having to see it.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919752)
Posted by Madeus Prime on November 3rd, 2017 @ 5:24pm CDT

Seibertron wrote: I would have been all for Bernie Sanders if he had been about 10 to 20 years younger. I liked Hillary, sort of, but she had a ton of political and personal baggage. I wasn't thrilled about her being the Democratic candidate, though she would have been much more Presidential-acting than Trump and would have retained the dignity that position has held for most of our country's history. I was also done with the whole Clinton-Bush legacy from the past 20 to 30 years. Time for someone new! Can't wait to see what happens in 2020. I can just hear the commercials now about having political hindsight in the year 20/20.

I'm not gonna weigh in politically here, but I wholehearted agree with your stance on this. ;)^

Plus I must say I'm impressed by the generally peaceful discussion amongst the users here.

Though I must say if we're gonna compare Trump to a Prime, go with Sentinel Prime.

I swear if his color hadn't been established almost a decade earlier I would've thought the artists repainted him specifically to homage our asshat in chief's signature tone.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919769)
Posted by Budder Prime on November 3rd, 2017 @ 7:09pm CDT

This shouldn't exist, period, end of story. I don't care if your a trump supporter or not, I don't care if its a Transformers Homage, Keep Politics away from Transformers. enough said. Because when they collide, Stupid useless arguments happen and its a disaster,

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919771)
Posted by No One on November 3rd, 2017 @ 7:17pm CDT

Super Megatron wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:Thank you R. Sikoryak for making Transformers look like an IDIOTIC comic. Thank you Seibertron even more for sinking so low as to post about it.

I know, right? Trump is NOT Jhiaxus - he's more Optimus Prime, if anything.

No offense, but I don't think we should compare anyone to Optimus Prime. I just think this is an insult to Transformers, and not Transformers news. I do not like people making fun of my Commander In Chief no matter their opinions. I am currently in a war zone and rely on that man.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919774)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 3rd, 2017 @ 7:47pm CDT

partholon wrote:

just thank christ your not a marvel comics fan man.

theyve RUINED their entire line up having a mental breakdown over the election. they actually seem to hate their readership. i pity anyone watching "thor ragnorok" this weekend who wanders into a comic shop looking to get into his book.

you'll end up with a lecture on feminism instead.

How does "a lecture on feminism" express hatred towards Marvel's fans?

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919775)
Posted by Easy Tiger on November 3rd, 2017 @ 7:53pm CDT

FHDHS1307 wrote:All I'm saying is that I feel he has an obligation to not say or type anything that will offend a large swath of his user base.

I feel I've got to point out that outside of the US, the public perception of Mr Trump is extremely poor. Here in the UK, it was even debated in parliament as to whether he should be banned from the country.

Given that the site has an international user base, I'm guessing that rather than a large swath, a very small minority might be closer to the truth. Honestly I suspect more people here would be offended by someone badmouthing Michael Bay.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919776)
Posted by Evil Eye on November 3rd, 2017 @ 7:57pm CDT

Caelus wrote:
partholon wrote:

just thank christ your not a marvel comics fan man.

theyve RUINED their entire line up having a mental breakdown over the election. they actually seem to hate their readership. i pity anyone watching "thor ragnorok" this weekend who wanders into a comic shop looking to get into his book.

you'll end up with a lecture on feminism instead.

How does "a lecture on feminism" express hatred towards Marvel's fans?

Because people who read comics, generally speaking, read them for superhero shenanigans and not so they can be lectured on why being a man makes them responsible for everything bad that ever happened to every woman ever?

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919782)
Posted by ricemazter on November 3rd, 2017 @ 8:43pm CDT

Black Hat wrote:
Caelus wrote:
partholon wrote:

just thank christ your not a marvel comics fan man.

theyve RUINED their entire line up having a mental breakdown over the election. they actually seem to hate their readership. i pity anyone watching "thor ragnorok" this weekend who wanders into a comic shop looking to get into his book.

you'll end up with a lecture on feminism instead.

How does "a lecture on feminism" express hatred towards Marvel's fans?

Because people who read comics, generally speaking, read them for superhero shenanigans and not so they can be lectured on why being a man makes them responsible for everything bad that ever happened to every woman ever?

I'd make the argument that that perspective doesn't describe feminism, but, then again, feminism has turned into this weird blanket term for a variety of schools of thought the same way saying one is Christian doesn't mean any one thing.

At any rate, superhero comics are rarely solely about super hero shenanigans to begin with. More often than not, they're used as a convenient springboard to tackle greater themes applicable to the real world, whether they're general morality stories or an unsubtle examination of the cold war (see Watchmen). Thor, it seems to me, just happens to be one of those springboards into a real world issue that you don't agree with. Also, which Thor book are you talking about? Mighty Thor, Thor vs. Hulk: Champions of the Universe, or The Unworthy Thor?

Heck, even the Transformers books aren't just about Transformers' shenanigans, and at various points have taken on themes of class warfare, haves vs have-nots, oppression, religious fanaticism, I could go on.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919783)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 3rd, 2017 @ 8:54pm CDT

Black Hat wrote:
Caelus wrote:
partholon wrote:

just thank christ your not a marvel comics fan man.

theyve RUINED their entire line up having a mental breakdown over the election. they actually seem to hate their readership. i pity anyone watching "thor ragnorok" this weekend who wanders into a comic shop looking to get into his book.

you'll end up with a lecture on feminism instead.

How does "a lecture on feminism" express hatred towards Marvel's fans?

Because people who read comics, generally speaking, read them for superhero shenanigans and not so they can be lectured on why being a man makes them responsible for everything bad that ever happened to every woman ever?

Can you provide examples? I'm behind on my Marvel comics.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919786)
Posted by Evil Eye on November 3rd, 2017 @ 9:14pm CDT

Caelus wrote:
Black Hat wrote:
Caelus wrote:
partholon wrote:

just thank christ your not a marvel comics fan man.

theyve RUINED their entire line up having a mental breakdown over the election. they actually seem to hate their readership. i pity anyone watching "thor ragnorok" this weekend who wanders into a comic shop looking to get into his book.

you'll end up with a lecture on feminism instead.

How does "a lecture on feminism" express hatred towards Marvel's fans?

Because people who read comics, generally speaking, read them for superhero shenanigans and not so they can be lectured on why being a man makes them responsible for everything bad that ever happened to every woman ever?

Can you provide examples? I'm behind on my Marvel comics.

To be honest I don't read them myself (capes aren't my thing), but a few that spring to mind are "Angela: Queen of Hel"'s embarrassingly stupid **UNSOLICITED OPINIONS ON ISRAEL???** scene, that one bit where femThor fights a stereotypical strawman "dudebro", and on the movie side of things, the whole "Washington monument was built by slaves so it's bad guise!" bit in Spiderman: Homecoming. There's also the fact they have a hero named "Black Panther" (yes I am aware he's been around for a while, but that doesn't really help Marvel's case much) which is pretty much the black equivalent of calling a superhero "Klansman".

There's also the overall massive slump in sales ever since they've tried to pander to the socialist crowd, which is a pretty evident sign that it isn't working.

I'm by no means the best person to ask about this, as I have only a cursory knowledge of the madness that has infected Marvel and have tried to steer clear of it. That said, if you want further reading, check out the Subreddit r/WerthamInAction (a community dedicated to archiving agenda pushing, ethical violations and flat-out stupidity in the comic book sphere) or just Google Image Search "Marvel Social Justice" and try not to implode with cringe.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919789)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 3rd, 2017 @ 9:32pm CDT

Black Hat wrote:To be honest I don't read them myself [...] I'm by no means the best person to ask about this, as I have only a cursory knowledge of the madness that has infected Marvel and have tried to steer clear of it. That said, if you want further reading, check out the Subreddit r/WerthamInAction (a community dedicated to archiving agenda pushing, ethical violations and flat-out stupidity in the comic book sphere) or just Google Image Search "Marvel Social Justice" and try not to implode with cringe.

Actually, that was just my polite way of asking if you actually knew what you were talking about or just parroting what other people have said.

Got my answer. Thanks.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919794)
Posted by Ultimate Weapon1 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 9:52pm CDT

Well I've enjoyed my stay here at Seibertron.com but seeing as the owner of the site doesn't respect others, and purposefully posts a controversial thing on his website, just so he can catch someone defending the president, and attack them, makes me sad since I really enjoyed this community. BTW Mr. Seibertron you forgot what Hillary did and what she called us, she called us Deplorables, just look up what that means, plus she was in office for 30yrs and things got worse, yet she still said america was fine and nothing was wrong with it. Go look into what was up with Hillary, then maybe youll understand. If you voted for Hillary whatever I don't really care, but posting somthong just so you can attack them is just low, it's a sad day to be a transformers fan. I may leave the site.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919799)
Posted by Ultimate Weapon1 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 9:58pm CDT

I at first thought this was supposed to be satirical, and thought it was funny as a joke, but sadly it was a sly way to find people to attack.... SAD. Sorry just had to do it.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919800)
Posted by Ultimate Weapon1 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 10:04pm CDT

FHDHS1307 wrote:I was really pleased that everyone in the comments were able to joke around in good faith. This was until (Mr.) Seibertron himself decided to weigh-in.

Honestly, it's very unbecoming of the site owner to so transparently choose a side on a very politicized topic. Of course, he retains the right to say what he wants, but his virtue-signaling is yet another example of people taking Trump as much more than the feckless president and meme he is.

Has Trump's rhetoric spoken to a bigoted, borderline-fascist sect of the electorate? YES.

Is Trump himself actually a fascist? Is there some malicious intent?
My guess is NO.

Ben Shapiro himself said in regards to Trump: "Don't attribute malice when stupidity will do."

Admittedly, I didn't even want to weigh in on this conversation. But the Site Owner's post crossed a line, in my opinion. He put a lot of work into crafting this platform, and a site for Transformers-Fans should be an apolitical place. I'd hate to see users develop a bad taste in their mout over some innocuous (and not-so innocuous) comments...

I agree with you, I myself voted for Trump, but thats not important, this is supposed to be, like you said, a site for transformers fans and that it should be apolitical. However I am still considering leaving the site.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919806)
Posted by WreckerJack on November 3rd, 2017 @ 10:26pm CDT

This thread is turning into a real...

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919808)
Posted by Ultimate Weapon1 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 10:36pm CDT

"Let us hope that a "large swath" of the users here are not Trump supporters." -Seibertron.

Well I guess I'm not welcome here.
And of course Trump is not like Optimus Prime, Optimus is awesome and a perfect leader, Trump will do his best. Wether you believe it or not, many of my friends and family who are, and who were, in the military are for him. But sadly Optimus Prime doesn't exist, so he can't lead us.

Re: More Transformers Homage in Robert Sikoryak's The Unquotable Trump (1919810)
Posted by Burn on November 3rd, 2017 @ 11:11pm CDT

You guys need to realise something.

The site owner, the staff ... we're human, just like you all.
We have our passions, just like you all.
We have our opinions, just like you all.

We're.just.like.you.

Please, stop and consider that. Okay, yeah, Ryan has used his site to air his political opinion.
That, actually is his right.

You don't have to agree with it.

Everyone is welcome on this site, regardless of political belief, trust me, Ryan is NOT going to run you off just because you voted for Trump.

But if you choose to leave, that's your choice, no one can stop you. BUT ... the site has a lot more to offer, lots of other discussions to engage in, lots of people (from varying backgrounds) to interact with.

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