New Beast Wars / Beast Machines Listings for Core Class in Legacy Line
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Apr 9, 2023 at 2:04pm CDT
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Thanks to TJPrime17 for sharing these 2 new listings with the community. They are for core class Dinobot and Cheetor. The Cheetor listing is quite interesting since it is labelled as "BM" rather than "BW" Cheetor. Could be a typo/error or.... it could mean Beast Machines is back! These two are set to come out in the 2024 Legacy line.
Tra Gen Legacy UNI Core BW Dinobot
Product Number: F8519
EAN: 5010996216212
Tra Gen Legacy UNI Core BM Cheetor
Product Number: F8520
EAN: 5010996216205
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Re: New Beast Wars / Beast Machines Listings for Core Class in Legacy Line
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 9, 2023
The main benefit of Core class Beast Wars and Beast Machines toys means they'd be closer in scale to how the Maximals, Predacons, and most Vehicons* were much smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons in those two cartoons and their related tie-in media.
*Tankor is the notable exception, since he was so much bigger than the other Vehicons and Maximals. His Generations Thrilling 30 Deluxe toy is pretty much already in scale with the Autobots and Decepticons.
*Tankor is the notable exception, since he was so much bigger than the other Vehicons and Maximals. His Generations Thrilling 30 Deluxe toy is pretty much already in scale with the Autobots and Decepticons.
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Doing so would also put them in scale with Beast Machines Happy Meal toys; Nightscream's was more show accurate than his mainline swingset-former figure, so no need for an update!
Comment by Bumblevivisector
Apr 9, 2023
I was thinking pretty much the same thing: Please Hasbro, make all new BM toys scale with Generations Tankor from 9 years ago, and not with the majority of BW toys we've been getting lately, thank you!Sabrblade wrote:The main benefit of Core class Beast Wars and Beast Machines toys means they'd be closer in scale to how the Maximals, Predacons, and most Vehicons* were much smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons in those two cartoons and their related tie-in media.
*Tankor is the notable exception, since he was so much bigger than the other Vehicons and Maximals. His Generations Thrilling 30 Deluxe toy is pretty much already in scale with the Autobots and Decepticons.
Doing so would also put them in scale with Beast Machines Happy Meal toys; Nightscream's was more show accurate than his mainline swingset-former figure, so no need for an update!
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Comment by blackeyedprime
Apr 9, 2023
Not interested in cores but will be nice to see if they get released at other size classes. Probably a good move for hasbro as third party legends sized figures don't seem to be that big on beast machines.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 9, 2023
They already did. That's what Kingdom was about.blackeyedprime wrote:Not interested in cores but will be nice to see if they get released at other size classes.
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Apr 9, 2023
A Core Class BW Dinobot... *looks at Slash*
I do have a bit of a concern regarding the BM Maximals, namely that their Beast and Robot Modes share almost no details whatsoever in the show. Will they attempt replicating that, let alone at Core scale?
I do have a bit of a concern regarding the BM Maximals, namely that their Beast and Robot Modes share almost no details whatsoever in the show. Will they attempt replicating that, let alone at Core scale?
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Comment by Rtron
Apr 9, 2023
There's no way they'll do the Beast Machines style justice. It'll be G1ified to hell and back. Beast Machines Cheetor pretool for G1 core Rampage, anyone?
I'm kidding about the pretool thing... I think.
I'm kidding about the pretool thing... I think.
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Nah Beastwars/machines is already G1 (and G3, G4 and G0 hahaha) so they shouldnt mess with them as much as they did with the Prime figures in Legacy...maybe.
Comment by blackeyedprime
Apr 9, 2023
Rtron wrote:There's no way they'll do the Beast Machines style justice. It'll be G1ified to hell and back. Beast Machines Cheetor pretool for G1 core Rampage, anyone?
I'm kidding about the pretool thing... I think.
Nah Beastwars/machines is already G1 (and G3, G4 and G0 hahaha) so they shouldnt mess with them as much as they did with the Prime figures in Legacy...maybe.
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So true, I mean have you ever seen blocky animals... outside of Space Truckers?
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Apr 9, 2023
blackeyedprime wrote:Rtron wrote:There's no way they'll do the Beast Machines style justice. It'll be G1ified to hell and back. Beast Machines Cheetor pretool for G1 core Rampage, anyone?
I'm kidding about the pretool thing... I think.
Nah Beastwars/machines is already G1 (and G3, G4 and G0 hahaha) so they shouldnt mess with them as much as they did with the Prime figures in Legacy...maybe.
So true, I mean have you ever seen blocky animals... outside of Space Truckers?
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 9, 2023
Yes:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Rtron wrote:There's no way they'll do the Beast Machines style justice. It'll be G1ified to hell and back. Beast Machines Cheetor pretool for G1 core Rampage, anyone?
I'm kidding about the pretool thing... I think.
Nah Beastwars/machines is already G1 (and G3, G4 and G0 hahaha) so they shouldnt mess with them as much as they did with the Prime figures in Legacy...maybe.
So true, I mean have you ever seen blocky animals... outside of Space Truckers?

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Pretty sure they were talking about the Beast Machines element.
Cheetor is the easiest one to get away with so it makes sense that they'd go for him first.
Comment by william-james88
Apr 9, 2023
Sabrblade wrote:They already did. That's what Kingdom was about.blackeyedprime wrote:Not interested in cores but will be nice to see if they get released at other size classes.
Pretty sure they were talking about the Beast Machines element.
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:A Core Class BW Dinobot... *looks at Slash*
I do have a bit of a concern regarding the BM Maximals, namely that their Beast and Robot Modes share almost no details whatsoever in the show. Will they attempt replicating that, let alone at Core scale?
Cheetor is the easiest one to get away with so it makes sense that they'd go for him first.
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I meant organic animals and you know it
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Apr 9, 2023
Sabrblade wrote:Yes:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Rtron wrote:There's no way they'll do the Beast Machines style justice. It'll be G1ified to hell and back. Beast Machines Cheetor pretool for G1 core Rampage, anyone?
I'm kidding about the pretool thing... I think.
Nah Beastwars/machines is already G1 (and G3, G4 and G0 hahaha) so they shouldnt mess with them as much as they did with the Prime figures in Legacy...maybe.
So true, I mean have you ever seen blocky animals... outside of Space Truckers?
I meant organic animals and you know it

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I had that very thought a few years ago. If I remember correctly bendy Prime is a bit too small and being a wonder when it was new, doesnt look as advanced and bulky as the new one.
Yeah those Core scaled BM/BWs figures would be scaled nicely. I usually dont buy core figures, unless they are supposed to be that size, ie. Rumble. However I am interested in this.
Comment by Hero Alpha
Apr 9, 2023
-Kanrabat- wrote:Hero Alpha wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Hero Alpha wrote:They do both look amazing. I pre-ordered Megatron, but not Optimus as I only want the cab/bot. Prolly no chance theys gonna release just it. But I am hoping they will as Nemesis, that I will buy. If its jus the cab.
Also about the Shrapnel guns; I dont see any difference in left or right.
I don't know why you'd want just the cab when that trailer actually do something relevant contrary to Rodimus Prime. Especially because that super mode is freakishly awesome and iconic and it give Prime a fighting chance against Megatron.
I just dont care for the look of his super mode. Ever since I saw theprototype of this Optimus I was excited to use it as my main G1 Prime in a new body. To go against Super Megatron. Or at the very least, use it as my Nemesis, if theys ever release one. I really liked Armada as a whole, just not so much the look of his super mode. But the base Optimus is one of my fav looks for him, along with G2 lazer Prime. I do like the new G2 Prime, but its just barely not good enough to replace Earthrise one as my Prime. Now if it had bulkier arms, shoulder/missle-pod rotation and maybe better legs, yes.
I would not be buying Armada Prime as Armada Prime. Just like Im buying Armada Megatron to be used as Helex(sinceprolly never make him), or someone, cause I just really love that design, just not as my Megatron. So I have no need for Prime's super mode.(my collection is as a head-canon 4th season of Sunbow G1[with a tiny bit of IDW and Marvel jammed in]). Now as far as I remember Armada Nemesis Prime never used the super mode, correct? I am not sure if they do release just the cab as Nemesis, if it would even fit in a voyager or leader price point, or something in between.
In that case, skip the Legacy Armada Prime entirely and just get the old Bendy Prime. I wonder if that old "deluxe" is as big as the Legacy one?![]()
If yes, you're set.
I had that very thought a few years ago. If I remember correctly bendy Prime is a bit too small and being a wonder when it was new, doesnt look as advanced and bulky as the new one.
Yeah those Core scaled BM/BWs figures would be scaled nicely. I usually dont buy core figures, unless they are supposed to be that size, ie. Rumble. However I am interested in this.
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Apr 9, 2023
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It's been nearly three years since Tigatron, at this point. Sigh
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot
Apr 10, 2023

It's been nearly three years since Tigatron, at this point. Sigh

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Comment by ZeroWolf
Apr 10, 2023
Guess the G1 MP line is just more important at the moment.
On the other hand, I'll always welcome the news of more Beast era toys, though hopefully we can get some more vehicons
On the other hand, I'll always welcome the news of more Beast era toys, though hopefully we can get some more vehicons
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Meanwhile, more Vehicons? Yes! More BM Maximals...
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot
Apr 10, 2023
ZeroWolf wrote:Guess the G1 MP line is always more important at the moment.
On the other hand, I'll always welcome the news of more Beast era toys, though hopefully we can get some more vehicons

Meanwhile, more Vehicons? Yes! More BM Maximals...

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They'd have to make a super-core Rattrap, then, but I'm fine with the 'modified' scale they have now. I want all my stuff to play in the same sandbox so to speak.
Comment by sol magnus
Apr 10, 2023
Sabrblade wrote:The main benefit of Core class Beast Wars and Beast Machines toys means they'd be closer in scale to how the Maximals, Predacons, and most Vehicons* were much smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons in those two cartoons and their related tie-in media.
*Tankor is the notable exception, since he was so much bigger than the other Vehicons and Maximals. His Generations Thrilling 30 Deluxe toy is pretty much already in scale with the Autobots and Decepticons.
They'd have to make a super-core Rattrap, then, but I'm fine with the 'modified' scale they have now. I want all my stuff to play in the same sandbox so to speak.
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Comment by Nemesis Destron
Apr 10, 2023
Interesting how 2 deluxe figures I bought at Walmart were a couple bucks more than 1 deluxe figure I bought at Target.



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Beast Wars MPs were a response to us not having anything to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Beast Wars. As long as Legacy keeps giving us Beast Wars figures I doubt we'll see another MP.
Wouldn't that be "sub-core"?
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Apr 10, 2023
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
It's been nearly three years since Tigatron, at this point. Sigh
Beast Wars MPs were a response to us not having anything to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Beast Wars. As long as Legacy keeps giving us Beast Wars figures I doubt we'll see another MP.
sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The main benefit of Core class Beast Wars and Beast Machines toys means they'd be closer in scale to how the Maximals, Predacons, and most Vehicons* were much smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons in those two cartoons and their related tie-in media.
*Tankor is the notable exception, since he was so much bigger than the other Vehicons and Maximals. His Generations Thrilling 30 Deluxe toy is pretty much already in scale with the Autobots and Decepticons.
They'd have to make a super-core Rattrap, then, but I'm fine with the 'modified' scale they have now. I want all my stuff to play in the same sandbox so to speak.
Wouldn't that be "sub-core"?

Emerje
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Yeah, that works. Sub-core.
Comment by sol magnus
Apr 11, 2023
Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
It's been nearly three years since Tigatron, at this point. Sigh
Beast Wars MPs were a response to us not having anything to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Beast Wars. As long as Legacy keeps giving us Beast Wars figures I doubt we'll see another MP.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The main benefit of Core class Beast Wars and Beast Machines toys means they'd be closer in scale to how the Maximals, Predacons, and most Vehicons* were much smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons in those two cartoons and their related tie-in media.
*Tankor is the notable exception, since he was so much bigger than the other Vehicons and Maximals. His Generations Thrilling 30 Deluxe toy is pretty much already in scale with the Autobots and Decepticons.
They'd have to make a super-core Rattrap, then, but I'm fine with the 'modified' scale they have now. I want all my stuff to play in the same sandbox so to speak.
Wouldn't that be "sub-core"?
Emerje
Yeah, that works. Sub-core.