New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode
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We now have images from Amazon Japan and Dengeki Hobby showing us Power of the Primes Abominus combined and Optimal Optimus with flight mode, among other images. While these are images from Takara, the releases are the very same as the Hasbro versions, as with every toy part of this line (both in the in fact that they are released individually and look the same).
However, this gives western fans something truly amazing that we never had before. The marketing technique of Hasbro and Takara have varied wildly in the past with Hasbro releasing official images of products using 3-d renders while Takara usually has high quality images of the actual finished product showing all of its possible configurations/gimmicks. Well, since both lines are the very same, this means that western fans can now be treated to this kind of marketing for toys they do not need to import.
So below you will see images of the following finished figures from the Power of the Primes line, well posed, well transformed (except for Optimal Optimus' robot mode), and showing all their possible configurations in terms of accompanying accessories.
PP-20 Quintus Prime with Bludgeon Decoy Armor
PP-21 Rippersnapper
PP-22 Cutthroat
PP-23 Blot
PP-24 Sinnertwin
PP-25 Hung-Gurrr
PP-26 Elita-1
PP-27 Optimal Optimus
Credit(s): Dengeki Hobby and Amazon Japan
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Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944230)
Posted by Big Grim on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:59am CST
Posted by Big Grim on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:59am CST
I want that Abominus!
And Optimal Optimus. (Or a future Primal Prime?)
First time in years I've thought that of a main line.
And Optimal Optimus. (Or a future Primal Prime?)
First time in years I've thought that of a main line.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944232)
Posted by RustedCross on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:06am CST
Posted by RustedCross on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:06am CST
Surfing monkey mode is going to be completely hollow in the back.
Not too fond of that.
Not too fond of that.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944233)
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:07am CST
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:07am CST
So how hollow is Primal's back when he's on the surfboard?
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944234)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:11am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:11am CST
Well I'll be Optimus Primal's father's brother! Bludgeon is a major retool of Metalhawk:
Compare the dark grey pieces with the purple ones.
Metalhawk retooled into Landmine, then shares parts with Bludgeon.
All is right again.
Compare the dark grey pieces with the purple ones.
Metalhawk retooled into Landmine, then shares parts with Bludgeon.
All is right again.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944237)
Posted by Lucky Logician on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:37am CST
Here is to hoping that Perfect Effect comes up with a fix for the hollow back.
Posted by Lucky Logician on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:37am CST
RustedCross wrote:Surfing monkey mode is going to be completely hollow in the back.
Not too fond of that.
Here is to hoping that Perfect Effect comes up with a fix for the hollow back.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944243)
Posted by shajaki on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:47am CST
Sure his Optimal bits will just sit there and look hollow while you're using lil Primal, but it's not any different than the previous "Evolution" Leader figures.
*sorry RJ, wasn't meaning to be condescending*
Posted by shajaki on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:47am CST
Who cares. It was dumb to begin with. It's good to know that his jet(thing) mode is achievable, and he can have a proper looking gun backpack like the OG did.RiddlerJ wrote:So how hollow is Primal's back when he's on the surfboard?
Sure his Optimal bits will just sit there and look hollow while you're using lil Primal, but it's not any different than the previous "Evolution" Leader figures.
*sorry RJ, wasn't meaning to be condescending*
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944246)
Posted by Randomhero on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:52am CST
Yeah it’d be a real shame when you have him on your shelf with his back turned facing you and you can see all that hallowness...
Posted by Randomhero on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:52am CST
Lucky Logician wrote:RustedCross wrote:Surfing monkey mode is going to be completely hollow in the back.
Not too fond of that.
Here is to hoping that Perfect Effect comes up with a fix for the hollow back.
Yeah it’d be a real shame when you have him on your shelf with his back turned facing you and you can see all that hallowness...
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944251)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:04pm CST
Posted by Evil Eye on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:04pm CST
Optimal Optimus is gonna be hollow as hell. No thank you.
The Terrorcons look pretty great though. Will definitely try and nab them.
The Terrorcons look pretty great though. Will definitely try and nab them.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944252)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:09pm CST
No more hollow than the original, or any of the other leader figures from this line
And besides, you can fill the cavity with primal to give him his screen accurate cannons anyways, so what is everyone bitching about? That he has so many options - more than any other figure in this class is awesome, it would have been easy for the designers to not bother trying to integrate primal into his suit in any way and force you to use the surfing monkey mode and bot mode only, but they didn't, and that's great
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:09pm CST
Black Hat wrote:Optimal Optimus is gonna be hollow as hell. No thank you.
The Terrorcons look pretty great though. Will definitely try and nab them.
No more hollow than the original, or any of the other leader figures from this line
And besides, you can fill the cavity with primal to give him his screen accurate cannons anyways, so what is everyone bitching about? That he has so many options - more than any other figure in this class is awesome, it would have been easy for the designers to not bother trying to integrate primal into his suit in any way and force you to use the surfing monkey mode and bot mode only, but they didn't, and that's great
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944255)
Posted by Crosscheck on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:27pm CST
Posted by Crosscheck on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:27pm CST
The Terrorcons all look amazing. Great upgrades of the G1.
The thing I don't like about OpOp is that his unevolved form doesn't really turn into anything. I am trying to figure out how to make it look like something. Otherwise, all other forms look great. Heck, I bet he can basically turn into a hover tank that is an approximation of his ground form from Beast Wars.
Bludgeon doesn't turn into sword. Why? It would have been perfect. I hope some third party comes out with an alternate weapon.
The thing I don't like about OpOp is that his unevolved form doesn't really turn into anything. I am trying to figure out how to make it look like something. Otherwise, all other forms look great. Heck, I bet he can basically turn into a hover tank that is an approximation of his ground form from Beast Wars.
Bludgeon doesn't turn into sword. Why? It would have been perfect. I hope some third party comes out with an alternate weapon.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944259)
Posted by Flashwave on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:51pm CST
The Sticking point is that in almost all cases of shared engineering across different toys, the two products are still dinctly different. TR Chromedome uses the same arm and leg principles as CW Dead End. But he’s clearly a different toy. The most infamous of shared engineering, the G2 Starscream (possibly better known as Smoke Sniper or Smokejumper, see WJ88’s sig pic) and Energon Starscream molds transform the same way, but they are clearly two different sizes and the jet kibble is different.
With HunGrr and Silverbot, you have two toys that are of the same size, same relative parts count, in the exact same blueprint, and they cast an almost identical profile as the other. This isn’t just “Oh, well he transforms the same way as this other toy” at the surface they have no less in common with each other than he Clones do. And its hard, when the human brain instinctively wants to find patterns (That’s why you see shapes in clouds) and explanations for things, to disconnect these two nigh—identical toys as anything other than being related.
OPtimal Optimus looks. Better and better. Odds re good I won’t be removing Primal though.
Gonna have a hard time turning down Elita 1 when I see her. But thats not a character I am attached to.
The Terrorcons look great as well. Again, gonna be hard to resist but I just don’t need them.
The heck does Bludgeon vein turn into?
Posted by Flashwave on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:51pm CST
MagicDeath wrote:Why does this retool debate keep popping up? We all agree on the facts, it’s just what you want to call a retool, which really should be ‘to each his own’.
Anyone mind telling me where I’ve seen Inferno’s packaging art chestplate before? Is it MtMtE Grapple?
The Sticking point is that in almost all cases of shared engineering across different toys, the two products are still dinctly different. TR Chromedome uses the same arm and leg principles as CW Dead End. But he’s clearly a different toy. The most infamous of shared engineering, the G2 Starscream (possibly better known as Smoke Sniper or Smokejumper, see WJ88’s sig pic) and Energon Starscream molds transform the same way, but they are clearly two different sizes and the jet kibble is different.
With HunGrr and Silverbot, you have two toys that are of the same size, same relative parts count, in the exact same blueprint, and they cast an almost identical profile as the other. This isn’t just “Oh, well he transforms the same way as this other toy” at the surface they have no less in common with each other than he Clones do. And its hard, when the human brain instinctively wants to find patterns (That’s why you see shapes in clouds) and explanations for things, to disconnect these two nigh—identical toys as anything other than being related.
OPtimal Optimus looks. Better and better. Odds re good I won’t be removing Primal though.
Gonna have a hard time turning down Elita 1 when I see her. But thats not a character I am attached to.
The Terrorcons look great as well. Again, gonna be hard to resist but I just don’t need them.
The heck does Bludgeon vein turn into?
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944260)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:59pm CST
The answer is simple: silverbolt made a damn solid torso, and abominus deserves only the best
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:59pm CST
Flashwave wrote:MagicDeath wrote:Why does this retool debate keep popping up? We all agree on the facts, it’s just what you want to call a retool, which really should be ‘to each his own’.
Anyone mind telling me where I’ve seen Inferno’s packaging art chestplate before? Is it MtMtE Grapple?
The Sticking point is that in almost all cases of shared engineering across different toys, the two products are still dinctly different. TR Chromedome uses the same arm and leg principles as CW Dead End. But he’s clearly a different toy. The most infamous of shared engineering, the G2 Starscream (possibly better known as Smoke Sniper or Smokejumper, see WJ88’s sig pic) and Energon Starscream molds transform the same way, but they are clearly two different sizes and the jet kibble is different.
With HunGrr and Silverbot, you have two toys that are of the same size, same relative parts count, in the exact same blueprint, and they cast an almost identical profile as the other. This isn’t just “Oh, well he transforms the same way as this other toy” at the surface they have no less in common with each other than he Clones do. And its hard, when the human brain instinctively wants to find patterns (That’s why you see shapes in clouds) and explanations for things, to disconnect these two nigh—identical toys as anything other than being related.
The answer is simple: silverbolt made a damn solid torso, and abominus deserves only the best
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944262)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:02pm CST
A gun that uses a kanabo for a barrel
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:02pm CST
Flashwave wrote:The heck does Bludgeon vein turn into?
A gun that uses a kanabo for a barrel
Hellscream9999 wrote:partholon wrote:im trying to figure out what the hell bludgeons alt mode is.
Pretty sure it's supposed to be a Kanabo, a Japanese studded club that Samurai used, they tend to be octagonal, and have metal studs running down the sides, not so sure it carries over to the alt mode, it might be a gun, maybe, but the part the tm uses is definitely a Kanabo
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944263)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:05pm CST
That also keep popping up and was answered above quickly as a result. Decepticon shells turn into melee weapons (Octopunch may be debatable), while Autobot ones are exclusively guns.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:05pm CST
Flashwave wrote:The heck does Bludgeon vein turn into?
That also keep popping up and was answered above quickly as a result. Decepticon shells turn into melee weapons (Octopunch may be debatable), while Autobot ones are exclusively guns.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944264)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:08pm CST
The funny part is that the soft detent would allow the weapon mode to be stood upright and you could use it to beat
's to death with a tiny suit of samurai armor 
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:08pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Flashwave wrote:The heck does Bludgeon vein turn into?
That also keep popping up and was answered above quickly as a result. Decepticon shells turn into melee weapons (Octopunch may be debatable), while Autobot ones are exclusively guns.
The funny part is that the soft detent would allow the weapon mode to be stood upright and you could use it to beat
's to death with a tiny suit of samurai armor
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944265)
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:21pm CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:21pm CST
Looking forward to Abominus, he was already a definite and Elita 1 has swayed me for her, though I'm quite happy to skip on Starscream. Optimal Optimus is pretty much awful compared to the original toy so I'll end up going third party eventually on him, when I fail to resist building up a beast wars collection again.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944266)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:30pm CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:30pm CST
Optimal Optimus was always a bad design...
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944267)
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:31pm CST
Well, at least his name finally is appropriate. Never understood why a Samurai armed with swords is named Bludgeon.
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:31pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Flashwave wrote:The heck does Bludgeon vein turn into?
A gun that uses a kanabo for a barrelHellscream9999 wrote:partholon wrote:im trying to figure out what the hell bludgeons alt mode is.
Pretty sure it's supposed to be a Kanabo, a Japanese studded club that Samurai used, they tend to be octagonal, and have metal studs running down the sides, not so sure it carries over to the alt mode, it might be a gun, maybe, but the part the tm uses is definitely a Kanabo
Well, at least his name finally is appropriate. Never understood why a Samurai armed with swords is named Bludgeon.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944269)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:38pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:38pm CST
Abominus is still amazing as is all the individual terrorcons...my wallet hurts
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944277)
Posted by DMSL on March 6th, 2018 @ 2:23pm CST
Posted by DMSL on March 6th, 2018 @ 2:23pm CST
Abominus looks great, but why does he have two different coloured hands? Not a fan of that it looks weird.
Bludgeon looks terrible, the barrel needs paint and the Prime Master needs a ton, it looks way too bland. I really hope this is just a prototype and not the finished product.
Bludgeon looks terrible, the barrel needs paint and the Prime Master needs a ton, it looks way too bland. I really hope this is just a prototype and not the finished product.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944278)
Posted by Relic0037 on March 6th, 2018 @ 2:23pm CST
Posted by Relic0037 on March 6th, 2018 @ 2:23pm CST
Albatross250 wrote:Takara POTP Abominus, Hun-grr
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944282)
Posted by dragons on March 6th, 2018 @ 2:43pm CST
Posted by dragons on March 6th, 2018 @ 2:43pm CST
For most people complaining about primal being hollow who puts there toys on shelf facing wall all you see is back side? His jet mode looks ok maybe there is fan mode to make him into car mode thing he have
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944290)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
I am ok with Inferno, I will get him. The legends are good too.
Optimal Optimus is looking better and better every time. I'm super excited for him. He looks to be the best leader figure of the line, I'm stoked.
Also, moonracer and nova star will never be legs, never.
Optimal Optimus is looking better and better every time. I'm super excited for him. He looks to be the best leader figure of the line, I'm stoked.
Also, moonracer and nova star will never be legs, never.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944293)
Posted by o.supreme on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST
So if they will be arms ONLY, I wonder if a 3P company will make a giant robotic wheelchair for your legless Elita-Infin1te
Posted by o.supreme on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I am ok with Inferno, I will get him. The legends are good too.
Optimal Optimus is looking better and better every time. I'm super excited for him. He looks to be the best leader figure of the line, I'm stoked.
Also, moonracer and nova star will never be legs, never.
So if they will be arms ONLY, I wonder if a 3P company will make a giant robotic wheelchair for your legless Elita-Infin1te
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944294)
Posted by william-james88 on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:14pm CST
AMEN
Posted by william-james88 on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:14pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Also, moonracer and nova star will never be legs, never.
AMEN
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944296)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:20pm CST
A hinged peg on a clear plastic panel + the weight of a combiner = paranoia.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:20pm CST
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Also, moonracer and nova star will never be legs, never.
AMEN
A hinged peg on a clear plastic panel + the weight of a combiner = paranoia.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944298)
Posted by william-james88 on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:35pm CST
It also looks terrible.
Posted by william-james88 on March 6th, 2018 @ 3:35pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Also, moonracer and nova star will never be legs, never.
AMEN
A hinged peg on a clear plastic panel + the weight of a combiner = paranoia.
It also looks terrible.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944302)
Posted by bodrock on March 6th, 2018 @ 4:05pm CST
I say the Torchbearers should be her legs.
Posted by bodrock on March 6th, 2018 @ 4:05pm CST
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Also, moonracer and nova star will never be legs, never.
AMEN
A hinged peg on a clear plastic panel + the weight of a combiner = paranoia.
It also looks terrible.
I say the Torchbearers should be her legs.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944311)
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:18pm CST
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:18pm CST
I can't believe they're not going to provide more deluxes. Not even one more so Elita-1 has her own set. They can't repaint Jazz into someone?
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944312)
Posted by Emerje on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:18pm CST
Posted by Emerje on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:18pm CST
I'm mostly OK, but with Optimus Primal, but I have some issues with the heads.
First the gorilla head, it's a minor complaint, but I miss the teeth, I preferred the original's ferocity.
Primal head - how did they manage to forget to paint his chin!?
Optimal Optimus - why is the blue portion so thick? With just his lips uncovered he looks like he has a thick blue beard when it should look more like a nose guard and chin strap.
Plus they didn't bother painting his crest. Not really sure what they have against silver paint on the heads.
Emerje
First the gorilla head, it's a minor complaint, but I miss the teeth, I preferred the original's ferocity.
Primal head - how did they manage to forget to paint his chin!?
Optimal Optimus - why is the blue portion so thick? With just his lips uncovered he looks like he has a thick blue beard when it should look more like a nose guard and chin strap.
Plus they didn't bother painting his crest. Not really sure what they have against silver paint on the heads.
Emerje
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944314)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:28pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:28pm CST
Silverbolt was the best torso from CW. Everything was solid and held together well, you had combiner lean but that was with every torso so it's no surprise Hasbro would want to go down that route again.
I don't want to get hopes up but the Terrorcon weapons look to have extra ports on them, they might be able to combine.
I don't want to get hopes up but the Terrorcon weapons look to have extra ports on them, they might be able to combine.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944316)
Posted by Hotconvoy on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:44pm CST
It looks like they may have been able to, but i think you would need Hun-gurr's weapon that does not exist
Posted by Hotconvoy on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:44pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Silverbolt was the best torso from CW. Everything was solid and held together well, you had combiner lean but that was with every torso so it's no surprise Hasbro would want to go down that route again.
I don't want to get hopes up but the Terrorcon weapons look to have extra ports on them, they might be able to combine.
It looks like they may have been able to, but i think you would need Hun-gurr's weapon that does not exist
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944327)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 6th, 2018 @ 7:35pm CST
Jazz and Repugnus will be legs if I ever combine those limbs, which is doubtful. I'm really thinking Repugnus will be a retool of Rippersnapper, hence that thought
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 6th, 2018 @ 7:35pm CST
o.supreme wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I am ok with Inferno, I will get him. The legends are good too.
Optimal Optimus is looking better and better every time. I'm super excited for him. He looks to be the best leader figure of the line, I'm stoked.
Also, moonracer and nova star will never be legs, never.
So if they will be arms ONLY, I wonder if a 3P company will make a giant robotic wheelchair for your legless Elita-Infin1te
Jazz and Repugnus will be legs if I ever combine those limbs, which is doubtful. I'm really thinking Repugnus will be a retool of Rippersnapper, hence that thought
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944331)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 6th, 2018 @ 7:46pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 6th, 2018 @ 7:46pm CST
I'm a little late to the discussion of "incomplete combiners," but I think Combiner Wars had far fewer "limbless torsos" than people think. Ultra Prime can use any limbs as a powered up form, but you can really consider the Optimus Maximus limbs (Prowl, Sunstreaker, Ironhide, and Mirage) to be the same default team for him, as they are for Unite Warriors Convoy Grand Prime, which uses the regular red and blue color scheme for Optimus. The difference realistically between Ultra Prime and Optimus Maximus is just a matter of color preference. Similarly, the single release Scattershot uses that same team as Optimus Maximus/Convoy Grand Prime in his instructions to form "Betatron." For eHobby Grand Scourge, he basically uses the standard UW Menasor limbs in his first fictional appearance. (I can't recall if he combined with anyone in the Unite Warriors Megatronia manga. You just kind of have to accept that some of these teams "double dip" on their membership with other gestalts. As for Hasbro Galvatronus, I consider his Unite Warriors Grand Galvatron team to be his "correct" combination, though you can't get those particular figures from Hasbro. You can just use whatever leftover CW limbs you have unassigned elsewhere for your Hasbro Galvatronus, since his bio says he just enslaves whatever limbs he wants to complete his gestalt form. You can think of Grand Scourge along the same lines, simply enslaving the hapless Stunticons in his way in lieu of having an actual dedicated team.
So, long story short, you can find a matching set of limbs for every Hasbro (or Takara) released Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors torso in the accompanying fiction (if not the toy bios or instructions or box art) as long as you're not upset by certain sets of limbs serving on more than one "team" or "gestalt" form.
Technically, even the "incomplete" or "teamless" torsos in Power of the Primes do have official configurations by stealing from other combiners (however illogical and hodgepodge they may seem), but somehow, it does feel a lot more sloppy than what we had to deal with in Combiner Wars with the likes of Ultra Prime, Galvatronus, and Betatron. I'm definitely leaning on some of the "extra" limbs we're left with from the alternate team members in Combiner Wars and one-off retools/redecos from the former Transformers Collectors Club to make some more cohesive and less redundant teams for the likes of "Megascream" and "Firestormer." For Elita Inf1nite, though, nothing less than Green Light and Lancer will do for me.
So, long story short, you can find a matching set of limbs for every Hasbro (or Takara) released Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors torso in the accompanying fiction (if not the toy bios or instructions or box art) as long as you're not upset by certain sets of limbs serving on more than one "team" or "gestalt" form.
Technically, even the "incomplete" or "teamless" torsos in Power of the Primes do have official configurations by stealing from other combiners (however illogical and hodgepodge they may seem), but somehow, it does feel a lot more sloppy than what we had to deal with in Combiner Wars with the likes of Ultra Prime, Galvatronus, and Betatron. I'm definitely leaning on some of the "extra" limbs we're left with from the alternate team members in Combiner Wars and one-off retools/redecos from the former Transformers Collectors Club to make some more cohesive and less redundant teams for the likes of "Megascream" and "Firestormer." For Elita Inf1nite, though, nothing less than Green Light and Lancer will do for me.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944335)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 6th, 2018 @ 8:00pm CST
Actually, I think that is the exact thing that most people are upset with. You can't have a combiner battle royal if some of the limbs have to pull double duty. Well you can, but some of the participants would end up armless and/or legless, not good for a a** kicking contest...
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 6th, 2018 @ 8:00pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:So, long story short, you can find a matching set of limbs for every Hasbro (or Takara) released Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors torso in the accompanying fiction (if not the toy bios or instructions or box art) as long as you're not upset by certain sets of limbs serving on more than one "team" or "gestalt" form.
Actually, I think that is the exact thing that most people are upset with. You can't have a combiner battle royal if some of the limbs have to pull double duty. Well you can, but some of the participants would end up armless and/or legless, not good for a a** kicking contest...
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944341)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 6th, 2018 @ 8:28pm CST
Well, maybe it can be more of a "Royal Rumble" than a "Battle Royal." As a "contestant" is knocked out, another takes his or her place. Imagine that "Betatron" gets knocked out. Maybe the component members are down for the count, but Scattershot "still functions," he can call on his Technobot buddies and re-enter the fray as "Computron." Or, maybe only Scattershot is out of commission and Sunstreaker, Ironhide, Prowl, and Mirage disengage with Betatron and hook up to Opitmus Prime so that "Optimus Maximus" can take up the fight where Betatron left off. It makes for a more dynamic kind of warfare that actively uses the toy gimmick of "Scramble City Combination" in narrative form.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 6th, 2018 @ 8:28pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:So, long story short, you can find a matching set of limbs for every Hasbro (or Takara) released Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors torso in the accompanying fiction (if not the toy bios or instructions or box art) as long as you're not upset by certain sets of limbs serving on more than one "team" or "gestalt" form.
Actually, I think that is the exact thing that most people are upset with. You can't have a combiner battle royal if some of the limbs have to pull double duty. Well you can, but some of the participants would end up armless and/or legless, not good for a a** kicking contest...
Well, maybe it can be more of a "Royal Rumble" than a "Battle Royal." As a "contestant" is knocked out, another takes his or her place. Imagine that "Betatron" gets knocked out. Maybe the component members are down for the count, but Scattershot "still functions," he can call on his Technobot buddies and re-enter the fray as "Computron." Or, maybe only Scattershot is out of commission and Sunstreaker, Ironhide, Prowl, and Mirage disengage with Betatron and hook up to Opitmus Prime so that "Optimus Maximus" can take up the fight where Betatron left off. It makes for a more dynamic kind of warfare that actively uses the toy gimmick of "Scramble City Combination" in narrative form.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944342)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 6th, 2018 @ 8:44pm CST
I've been using a different approach. I have both Hasbro and Takara Computrons and the 3 G2 sets. But I don't like having a repeat of the same combiners, so the repeats get swapped around to the extra torsos for some variety. I'll even throw the unused portions into a new combiner. For example, we all knows who Menasor is. But I've also created his lesser known brother Eyeasor(e) using G2 Onslaught, G2 Breakdown, G2 Brake-neck, G2 Swindle and Hasbro Afterbreaker. Basically looks like a box of crayons threw up.
For new incomplete torsos and extra limbs, I'll just keep mixing and matching as needed to suit my mood.
However, for those that want "complete" teams. Keep an eye on toyhax and their sticker sets that let you make new characters. I bought an extra Ironhide, Wheeljack and Trailbreaker and turned them into Smolder, X-Tinguisher and the Fallen, to go with Battle Core Prime turned into Nova Prime. I have Offroad with them for now until I see another sticker set for a decepticon. Once I have that, Stickerous Maximus will be complete.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 6th, 2018 @ 8:44pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:So, long story short, you can find a matching set of limbs for every Hasbro (or Takara) released Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors torso in the accompanying fiction (if not the toy bios or instructions or box art) as long as you're not upset by certain sets of limbs serving on more than one "team" or "gestalt" form.
Actually, I think that is the exact thing that most people are upset with. You can't have a combiner battle royal if some of the limbs have to pull double duty. Well you can, but some of the participants would end up armless and/or legless, not good for a a** kicking contest...
Well, maybe it can be more of a "Royal Rumble" than a "Battle Royal." As a "contestant" is knocked out, another takes his or her place. Imagine that "Betatron" gets knocked out. Maybe the component members are down for the count, but Scattershot "still functions," he can call on his Technobot buddies and re-enter the fray as "Computron." Or, maybe only Scattershot is out of commission and Sunstreaker, Ironhide, Prowl, and Mirage disengage with Betatron and hook up to Opitmus Prime so that "Optimus Maximus" can take up the fight where Betatron left off. It makes for a more dynamic kind of warfare that actively uses the toy gimmick of "Scramble City Combination" in narrative form.
I've been using a different approach. I have both Hasbro and Takara Computrons and the 3 G2 sets. But I don't like having a repeat of the same combiners, so the repeats get swapped around to the extra torsos for some variety. I'll even throw the unused portions into a new combiner. For example, we all knows who Menasor is. But I've also created his lesser known brother Eyeasor(e) using G2 Onslaught, G2 Breakdown, G2 Brake-neck, G2 Swindle and Hasbro Afterbreaker. Basically looks like a box of crayons threw up.
For new incomplete torsos and extra limbs, I'll just keep mixing and matching as needed to suit my mood.
However, for those that want "complete" teams. Keep an eye on toyhax and their sticker sets that let you make new characters. I bought an extra Ironhide, Wheeljack and Trailbreaker and turned them into Smolder, X-Tinguisher and the Fallen, to go with Battle Core Prime turned into Nova Prime. I have Offroad with them for now until I see another sticker set for a decepticon. Once I have that, Stickerous Maximus will be complete.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944345)
Posted by Skritz on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:00pm CST
Posted by Skritz on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:00pm CST
Well, I'm glad to know that Optimal Optimus has the mode he actually used the most in the show.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944348)
Posted by Cobotron on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:12pm CST
Kev mentioned using G2 sets willy-nilly. I bought G2 Superion strictly to give his limbs to Skylynx and that team is complete. and RAD! Never going with any other limbs.
So is everyone befuddled over the fact that the "teams" are incomplete, or simply that the numbers don't add up? That's what has me. I was able to cobble together a full set for every torso I got. That did include a few Repro-ed repeats, but I still think I ended up with four limbots for every torso. even G2 Silverbolt has a weird team.
With PotP, I'm more concerned with un-even numbers than with "appropriate" teams. But, I'm big believer in Scramble City swap meets, and do not hold to this collective consciousness thing. It's an interesting concept but I find it very limiting to my play.
I know we have weighed all the facts, against all the leaks and rumors, but I still find it hard to believe that we know everything. I think after the IP corporate tragedy of that massive leak last year, Hasbro is playing tight to the chest. Super damage control. I don't think we know everything that is coming in PotP, and feel certain there will be more deluxe limbots. Am I being overly optimistic? You bet! That's how I roll. Helps me sleep at night. 
Posted by Cobotron on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:12pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote: Basically looks like a box of crayons threw up.
Kev mentioned using G2 sets willy-nilly. I bought G2 Superion strictly to give his limbs to Skylynx and that team is complete. and RAD! Never going with any other limbs.
So is everyone befuddled over the fact that the "teams" are incomplete, or simply that the numbers don't add up? That's what has me. I was able to cobble together a full set for every torso I got. That did include a few Repro-ed repeats, but I still think I ended up with four limbots for every torso. even G2 Silverbolt has a weird team.
With PotP, I'm more concerned with un-even numbers than with "appropriate" teams. But, I'm big believer in Scramble City swap meets, and do not hold to this collective consciousness thing. It's an interesting concept but I find it very limiting to my play.
I know we have weighed all the facts, against all the leaks and rumors, but I still find it hard to believe that we know everything. I think after the IP corporate tragedy of that massive leak last year, Hasbro is playing tight to the chest. Super damage control. I don't think we know everything that is coming in PotP, and feel certain there will be more deluxe limbots. Am I being overly optimistic? You bet! That's how I roll. Helps me sleep at night.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944355)
Posted by DeathReviews on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:32pm CST
Oh, I totally get that. After all, each figure turns into a robot, which has humanoid physiology - that is to say, one head, a central body, two arms with shoulders, elbows and wrists, a waist, pelvis, and two legs, each one with a hip joint, a knee joint and an ankle joint. In that sense, almost all transformers figures can be said to be the same. But Hun-Gurr, while having almost all his parts sclupted differently, still has Silverbolt's framework and proportions. I was hoping for a completely original mold right down to the framework. But Grimlock was all original, and look what they did with HIM. So it may not necessarily be a mark against Hun-Gurr that his mold isn't completely original, but retooled from Silverbolt. Silverbolt's engineering was good, which is why he got re-done so many times...
Posted by DeathReviews on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:32pm CST
Acesmcgee wrote:DeathReviews wrote:Soon Hun-Gurr and Elita-1 will be actually available on HasbroToyShop.com - the listings are up, though the figures are shown as 'out of stock' and 'coming soon'...
And yep - I'm definitely seeing Silverbolt's framework in this. The parts may all be molded differently, but it's still essentially Silverbolt's robot mode lying on it's back with the arms bent backwards, and a tail 'cap' over where the robot head should be.
You know that shared engineering concept or what have you really puts me in mind of the original G1 toys. Even if the bots where different, the sameness of transforming engineering could easily make you recall another TF.
Oh, I totally get that. After all, each figure turns into a robot, which has humanoid physiology - that is to say, one head, a central body, two arms with shoulders, elbows and wrists, a waist, pelvis, and two legs, each one with a hip joint, a knee joint and an ankle joint. In that sense, almost all transformers figures can be said to be the same. But Hun-Gurr, while having almost all his parts sclupted differently, still has Silverbolt's framework and proportions. I was hoping for a completely original mold right down to the framework. But Grimlock was all original, and look what they did with HIM. So it may not necessarily be a mark against Hun-Gurr that his mold isn't completely original, but retooled from Silverbolt. Silverbolt's engineering was good, which is why he got re-done so many times...
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944364)
Posted by Albatross250 on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:01pm CST
Octopunch can be an Harpoon, but some other reasons it looks like a crossbow.
Posted by Albatross250 on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:01pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Flashwave wrote:The heck does Bludgeon vein turn into?
That also keep popping up and was answered above quickly as a result. Decepticon shells turn into melee weapons (Octopunch may be debatable), while Autobot ones are exclusively guns.
Octopunch can be an Harpoon, but some other reasons it looks like a crossbow.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944375)
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:37pm CST
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:37pm CST
Hm.
Looking at Primal, You could probably separate the cockpit chunk from the smaller robot and still have a fully functional Optimal Optimus. Might be worth a try whenever I get him in hand.
Looking at Primal, You could probably separate the cockpit chunk from the smaller robot and still have a fully functional Optimal Optimus. Might be worth a try whenever I get him in hand.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944395)
Posted by Flashwave on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:41pm CST
Here I thought I was the only one who did that. And its sorta canon if you wink at it right. He was Lieutenent Commander of the Third Air Strike Division. And who's to say who the Third Air Strike Division was if not a bunch of bots who look like Arialbots.
Getting this back on topic, I myself will probably never combine Elita if I even pick her up, so no worries rhere. I have a bunch of spare Protectobots running around right now starring
*CW Srafe as Skyfeather and the unnamed RescueForce jet
CW Nosecone as Heatrock and the Unnamed Rescue Force drill tank
*CW Rook as the unnamed Rescue Force tank with thw geabby claw things (when I leave out CW Groove)
*CW Mirage, tentatively called Speed Stream after the G2 guy, as the unnamed RESCUE force CAR/dunebuggy (you can flip the rear spoiler up and strap a CW HFG to it and get close to Jarguar)
*Alpha Bravo as Fly Up,
So amongst them I have enough extra limbs for a second Defensor.
Posted by Flashwave on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:41pm CST
Cobotron wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote: Basically looks like a box of crayons threw up.
Kev mentioned using G2 sets willy-nilly. I bought G2 Superion strictly to give his limbs to Skylynx and that team is complete. and RAD! Never going with any other limbs.
Here I thought I was the only one who did that. And its sorta canon if you wink at it right. He was Lieutenent Commander of the Third Air Strike Division. And who's to say who the Third Air Strike Division was if not a bunch of bots who look like Arialbots.
Getting this back on topic, I myself will probably never combine Elita if I even pick her up, so no worries rhere. I have a bunch of spare Protectobots running around right now starring
*CW Srafe as Skyfeather and the unnamed RescueForce jet
CW Nosecone as Heatrock and the Unnamed Rescue Force drill tank
*CW Rook as the unnamed Rescue Force tank with thw geabby claw things (when I leave out CW Groove)
*CW Mirage, tentatively called Speed Stream after the G2 guy, as the unnamed RESCUE force CAR/dunebuggy (you can flip the rear spoiler up and strap a CW HFG to it and get close to Jarguar)
*Alpha Bravo as Fly Up,
So amongst them I have enough extra limbs for a second Defensor.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944397)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:48pm CST
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:48pm CST
Can I just point out that Bludgeon now turns into a bludgeon.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944398)
Posted by Albatross250 on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:51pm CST
Add POTP starscream and you can get the Rescue Force combiner, which is lit, just replace the combiner head with a Liokaiser head
Posted by Albatross250 on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:51pm CST
Flashwave wrote:Cobotron wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote: Basically looks like a box of crayons threw up.
Kev mentioned using G2 sets willy-nilly. I bought G2 Superion strictly to give his limbs to Skylynx and that team is complete. and RAD! Never going with any other limbs.
Here I thought I was the only one who did that. And its sorta canon if you wink at it right. He was Lieutenent Commander of the Third Air Strike Division. And who's to say who the Third Air Strike Division was if not a bunch of bots who look like Arialbots.
Getting this back on topic, I myself will probably never combine Elita if I even pick her up, so no worries rhere. I have a bunch of spare Protectobots running around right now starring
*CW Srafe as Skyfeather and the unnamed RescueForce jet
CW Nosecone as Heatrock and the Unnamed Rescue Force drill tank
*CW Rook as the unnamed Rescue Force tank with thw geabby claw things (when I leave out CW Groove)
*CW Mirage, tentatively called Speed Stream after the G2 guy, as the unnamed RESCUE force CAR/dunebuggy (you can flip the rear spoiler up and strap a CW HFG to it and get close to Jarguar)
*Alpha Bravo as Fly Up,
So amongst them I have enough extra limbs for a second Defensor.
Add POTP starscream and you can get the Rescue Force combiner, which is lit, just replace the combiner head with a Liokaiser head
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944408)
Posted by noctorro on March 7th, 2018 @ 1:28am CST
Posted by noctorro on March 7th, 2018 @ 1:28am CST
Gods damnit Hasbro, I want and will get them all. They all look amazing.
And damn someone here for posting Computron, he's the only standard retail combiner that I didn't get... and now I want that bastard but he'll be probably unpayable now, the takara version.
And damn someone here for posting Computron, he's the only standard retail combiner that I didn't get... and now I want that bastard but he'll be probably unpayable now, the takara version.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944409)
Posted by Zeedust on March 7th, 2018 @ 1:31am CST
Posted by Zeedust on March 7th, 2018 @ 1:31am CST
Am I the only one who feels like Quintus Prime should have been Octopunch?
Yeah, it's kind of funny how he got named after a weapon that it took this long for any version on him to use (well, be, in this case).
Wireless_Phantom wrote:Can I just point out that Bludgeon now turns into a bludgeon.
Yeah, it's kind of funny how he got named after a weapon that it took this long for any version on him to use (well, be, in this case).
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944418)
Posted by Emerje on March 7th, 2018 @ 2:31am CST
You mean like some sort of harpoon... gun?
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on March 7th, 2018 @ 2:31am CST
Albatross250 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Flashwave wrote:The heck does Bludgeon vein turn into?
That also keep popping up and was answered above quickly as a result. Decepticon shells turn into melee weapons (Octopunch may be debatable), while Autobot ones are exclusively guns.
Octopunch can be an Harpoon, but some other reasons it looks like a crossbow.
You mean like some sort of harpoon... gun?
Emerje
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944421)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 7th, 2018 @ 2:53am CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 7th, 2018 @ 2:53am CST
Abominus actually looks great for his/their fans. I'm not one (mainly cos not a big fan of the beast forms or combiners as a whole) but I can appreciate this works a lot better than some of the other combiners, particularly the dinobots and predacons (both messed up)
Optimal looks like junk but he always did.
Bludgeon...man... still wasting that Pretender potential with these crummy things. I'll stick with my custom RotF Bluddy thanks. May not be a Pretender but it's still a ton more awesome than these cheapo bits of crud are.
Optimal looks like junk but he always did.
Bludgeon...man... still wasting that Pretender potential with these crummy things. I'll stick with my custom RotF Bluddy thanks. May not be a Pretender but it's still a ton more awesome than these cheapo bits of crud are.
Re: New Images of POTP Finished Toys Including Abominus Combined and Optimal Optimus with Flight Mode (1944437)
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 7th, 2018 @ 4:47am CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 7th, 2018 @ 4:47am CST
Takara Tomy Mall has the option to buy all the Terrorcons together (but NOT as a boxed set) for about ¥16,000. Amazon has all the Terrorcons for preorder and they're around ¥14,000, so they're cheaper:
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B99D37V/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=51b4J2OVHSL&ref=plSrch
You can also order them separately at Amazon:
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7VP4WS/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=51PiyUdv9AL&ref=plSrch
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7S8RTC/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=519bf6p855L&ref=plSrch
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7RRP78/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7RFW7F/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7NNBKZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
Plus, the other TFs.
Bludgeon: - https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7SMNP9/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=41hLGonv4iL&ref=plSrch
Elita-1:
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7S67Z8/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=51IOP%2BbtIXL&ref=plSrch
Optimal Optimus (Primal) :
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B4W7WPC/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-12&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B99D37V/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=51b4J2OVHSL&ref=plSrch
You can also order them separately at Amazon:
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7VP4WS/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=51PiyUdv9AL&ref=plSrch
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7S8RTC/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=519bf6p855L&ref=plSrch
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7RRP78/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-9&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7RFW7F/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7NNBKZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
Plus, the other TFs.
Bludgeon: - https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7SMNP9/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=41hLGonv4iL&ref=plSrch
Elita-1:
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B7S67Z8/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=51IOP%2BbtIXL&ref=plSrch
Optimal Optimus (Primal) :
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/B07B4W7WPC/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?tag=seibertron00-22&ie=UTF8&qid=1520418817&sr=1-12&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
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