New Images Transformers of Legends Tailgate and Swerve with their G1 counterparts

The difference seems to be mainly in Tailgate using a darker tael and removal of flames, while Swerve hardly looks the same aside from Phaser.

Edging closer and closer to Legends here.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The difference seems to be mainly in Tailgate using a darker tael and removal of flames, while Swerve hardly looks the same aside from Phaser.

Edging closer and closer to Legends here.

Takara's swerve is a darker shade of red, and it has a black "square" on the hood to mimic the G1 toy as well. Also, there is more white paint on his shins. Hasbro's version uses a much brighter shade of red, lacks the black hood detailing, and has much less white paint on the shins.

I really wish this guys on Legion scale

padfoo wrote:Is it the angle of the photo or is Megatron's cannon bigger here (that just sounds wrong).

Not bigger, backwards, and it looks so much better for it. There was some speculation in the CW thread that this could be done and it looks like it can be.

It's also a good look at how his shoulders are outward articulated. Not nearly as stiff looking as the Hasbro photos.

Emerje

Ha! The arm canon does rotate. I knew it.


But is it just me or is that an alternat head sculpt on the takara version? Long thin face, based on the G1 toy head. Hasbros looks thicker and more triangular with some dashes of IDW homage and wider jaw.

Frankly, I can't see any differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions of Megatron, unless Takara's Megatron has darker silver.

Sabrblade wrote:Frankly, I can't see any differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions of Megatron, unless Takara's Megatron has darker silver.

Agreed. Could it be a case of Takara using photos of the Hasbro version for early solicitations, though? Didn't that happen a little while ago with some other Legends reveals?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Frankly, I can't see any differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions of Megatron, unless Takara's Megatron has darker silver.

Agreed. Could it be a case of Takara using photos of the Hasbro version for early solicitations, though? Didn't that happen a little while ago with some other Legends reveals?

It did. But some cases have used Takara's toys. Guess this is another tedious "wait and see" case.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Frankly, I can't see any differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions of Megatron, unless Takara's Megatron has darker silver.

Agreed. Could it be a case of Takara using photos of the Hasbro version for early solicitations, though? Didn't that happen a little while ago with some other Legends reveals?

It did. But some cases have used Takara's toys. Guess this is another tedious "wait and see" case.

Not so fast, Sabrblade. There is a difference in color, but very insignificant given how it's gone unnoticed by almost everyone. The plastic strut on tje front of Leader Megs' leg is light grey on Hasbro's release where as in these pics fron Takara, they are dark grey.

Manterax Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Frankly, I can't see any differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions of Megatron, unless Takara's Megatron has darker silver.

Agreed. Could it be a case of Takara using photos of the Hasbro version for early solicitations, though? Didn't that happen a little while ago with some other Legends reveals?

It did. But some cases have used Takara's toys. Guess this is another tedious "wait and see" case.

Not so fast, Sabrblade. There is a difference in color, but very insignificant given how it's gone unnoticed by almost everyone. The plastic strut on tje front of Leader Megs' leg is light grey on Hasbro's release where as in these pics fron Takara, they are dark grey.

So there is some darker gray on Takara's.

I guess Hasbro's is Daytime Megatron while Takara's is Bedtime Megatron.

Sabrblade wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Frankly, I can't see any differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions of Megatron, unless Takara's Megatron has darker silver.

Agreed. Could it be a case of Takara using photos of the Hasbro version for early solicitations, though? Didn't that happen a little while ago with some other Legends reveals?

It did. But some cases have used Takara's toys. Guess this is another tedious "wait and see" case.

Not so fast, Sabrblade. There is a difference in color, but very insignificant given how it's gone unnoticed by almost everyone. The plastic strut on tje front of Leader Megs' leg is light grey on Hasbro's release where as in these pics fron Takara, they are dark grey.

So there is some darker gray on Takara's.

I guess Hasbro's is Daytime Megatron while Takara's is Bedtime Megatron.

Yes, but it seems to only be those parts on the front of his legs that were changed and all the other grey plastic, such as the bit on his knees and the tread wheels, is the same light grey used on Hasbro's. Like I said, very insignificant color difference.

mooncake623 wrote:

Best looking official Megatron toy I've seen so far. Doesn't quite fit with either MP or "CHUG" though. Might still be cool as a "stand alone" figure..

The canon does look better here.

Cyberpath wrote:Best looking official Megatron toy I've seen so far.

I really don't see how it's any better looking than the Hasbro version, considering that the differences are few and minute.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Best looking official Megatron toy I've seen so far.

I really don't see how it's any better looking than the Hasbro version, considering that the differences are few and minute.

I didn't differentiate it from the Hasbro one.

Cyberpath wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Best looking official Megatron toy I've seen so far.

I really don't see how it's any better looking than the Hasbro version, considering that the differences are few and minute.

I didn't differentiate it from the Hasbro one.

Yeah, I guessed you were just talking about the mold itself.

And Sabreblade, as you can see from a few posts above (or the page before) I couldnt tell the difference either. It's like when I was looking for a difference between the roadbusters. Actually, this one is even more minute. Part of me would have preffered a greater difference. Like Hasbro being in matte grey (like we first saw), homaging the show, and Takara being in silver, homaging the toy.

Cyberpath wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

Best looking official Megatron toy I've seen so far. Doesn't quite fit with either MP or "CHUG" though. Might still be cool as a "stand alone" figure..

The canon does look better here.

Bought!

fenrir72 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Best looking official Megatron toy I've seen so far. Doesn't quite fit with either MP or "CHUG" though. Might still be cool as a "stand alone" figure..

The canon does look better here.

Bought!

Will you actualy be buying the legends one or the Hasbro one? I feel we'll be paying a lot here for just a few differences.

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Best looking official Megatron toy I've seen so far. Doesn't quite fit with either MP or "CHUG" though. Might still be cool as a "stand alone" figure..

The canon does look better here.

Bought!

Will you actualy be buying the legends one or the Hasbro one? I feel we'll be paying a lot here for just a few differences.

Legends wj88. Extra bling on Tomy versions and given their penchant for comic/anime accuracy (at least as close to the iteration as possible)

Jetfire= box art (exception to the rule)
Fembot= mix comic and anime
RB and Whirl= G1 toy

And..........gives me time to save.

Sabrblade wrote:I guess Hasbro's is Daytime Megatron while Takara's is Bedtime Megatron.

Don't you mean, Megatron After Dark?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I guess Hasbro's is Daytime Megatron while Takara's is Bedtime Megatron.

Don't you mean, Megatron After Dark?

Nah, I mean the Megatron who wears pajamas and is taken to bed by children to sleep with.

Just like Bedtime Bubba:

Not sure about Legends Swerve & Tailgate, but I'm all in on Megatron. Both versions.

Remember how Takara Brainstorm didn't look any different than Hasbro's in initial promo pics? I expect we'll see some more differences as actual in-hand versions of both Megatrons inch closer to their release dates.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I guess Hasbro's is Daytime Megatron while Takara's is Bedtime Megatron.

Don't you mean, Megatron After Dark?

Nah, I mean the Megatron who wears pajamas and is taken to bed by children to sleep with.

Just like Bedtime Bubba:

I can't think of a worse hell for Megatron than having to cuddle up with some giant "fleshling" spawn.

megatronus wrote:Not sure about Legends Swerve & Tailgate, but I'm all in on Megatron. Both versions.

Remember how Takara Brainstorm didn't look any different than Hasbro's in initial promo pics? I expect we'll see some more differences as actual in-hand versions of both Megatrons inch closer to their release dates.

s'what i was thinkin

my entire view of leader megs (in relation to MP's) hasnt skewed my opinion of the figure itself. i actually like it a lot, and think its a phenomenal take on the character. i indefinitely plan yo buy him, whichever version looks best. and that says a lot since i dont plan to use him as a replacement for my united megatron in my C/G display.

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
Will you actualy be buying the legends one or the Hasbro one? I feel we'll be paying a lot here for just a few differences.

Legends wj88. Extra bling on Tomy versions and given their penchant for comic/anime accuracy (at least as close to the iteration as possible)

Jetfire= box art (exception to the rule)
Fembot= mix comic and anime
RB and Whirl= G1 toy

And..........gives me time to save.

But are you sure he has extra bling? Because the Hasbro version seems to have just as much.




Also, did you get the takara tankor over the Hasbro one?

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
Will you actualy be buying the legends one or the Hasbro one? I feel we'll be paying a lot here for just a few differences.

Legends wj88. Extra bling on Tomy versions and given their penchant for comic/anime accuracy (at least as close to the iteration as possible)

Jetfire= box art (exception to the rule)
Fembot= mix comic and anime
RB and Whirl= G1 toy

And..........gives me time to save.

But are you sure he has extra bling? Because the Hasbro version seems to have just as much.




Also, did you get the takara tankor over the Hasbro one?

It's either or with Tomy wj88 with regards to Megatron, I'm expecting this to have the G1 toy color theme...........shinier.

As for Tankor, I need some convincing to get the figure now that you mentioned him. Based on your posts, he looks great. Easy buy (cheaper than RB and Whirl)but TF universe wise, this is BW and, not too much into him.
Mind you, I've got much uglier figs like Straxus, henkei Galvatron and Octane.

fenrir72 wrote:

It's either or with Tomy wj88 with regards to Megatron, I'm expecting this to have the G1 toy color theme...........shinier.

As for Tankor, I need some convincing to get the figure now that you mentioned him. Based on your posts, he looks great. Easy buy (cheaper than RB and Whirl)but TF universe wise, this is BW and, not too much into him.
Mind you, I've got much uglier figs like Straxus, henkei Galvatron and Octane.

Well, he is more show accurate in both looks and transformation than any of those three. And I actually have a huge soft spot for galvatron, I think that sculpt is remarkable. I sent you a Pm in regards to better places to get Tankor if you're interested.

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

It's either or with Tomy wj88 with regards to Megatron, I'm expecting this to have the G1 toy color theme...........shinier.

As for Tankor, I need some convincing to get the figure now that you mentioned him. Based on your posts, he looks great. Easy buy (cheaper than RB and Whirl)but TF universe wise, this is BW and, not too much into him.
Mind you, I've got much uglier figs like Straxus, henkei Galvatron and Octane.

Well, he is more show accurate in both looks and transformation than any of those three. And I actually have a huge soft spot for galvatron, I think that sculpt is remarkable. I sent you a Pm in regards to better places to get Tankor if you're interested.

Appreciate the effort wj88. Tankor is technically no problem purchasing, it's the "should I get him or not" that's the problem. Been to tfwiki and dug about his back story...........quite ironic that the Rhinox fig sold out fast and this one didn't.

He'll be on my to buy list for now.

fenrir72 wrote:
Appreciate the effort wj88. Tankor is technically no problem purchasing, it's the "should I get him or not" that's the problem. Been to tfwiki and dug about his back story...........quite ironic that the Rhinox fig sold out fast and this one didn't.

He'll be on my to buy list for now.

On that note, I strongly recommend you watch Beat Machines, it's one of the better written TF shows, and it will help you deal with the simplicity in Tankor's transformation (takara actually did a great job with this one).

Now with 2 legends versions out of the three, I can do this:


Armoured Trooper Dorvack Reborn!!!!!!!!!!!

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Appreciate the effort wj88. Tankor is technically no problem purchasing, it's the "should I get him or not" that's the problem. Been to tfwiki and dug about his back story...........quite ironic that the Rhinox fig sold out fast and this one didn't.

He'll be on my to buy list for now.

On that note, I strongly recommend you watch Beat Machines, it's one of the better written TF shows, and it will help you deal with the simplicity in Tankor's transformation (takara actually did a great job with this one).

Not badly written ... but damn did the ending suck.

william-james88 wrote:Now with 2 legends versions out of the three, I can do this:


Armoured Trooper Dorvack Reborn!!!!!!!!!!!

The coincidences sometimes is unnerving.

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Now with 2 legends versions out of the three, I can do this:

Armoured Trooper Dorvack Reborn!!!!!!!!!!!

The coincidences sometimes is unnerving.

Throw in Jetfire since Dorvack was meant to be a spiritual sequel to Macross.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Appreciate the effort wj88. Tankor is technically no problem purchasing, it's the "should I get him or not" that's the problem. Been to tfwiki and dug about his back story...........quite ironic that the Rhinox fig sold out fast and this one didn't.

He'll be on my to buy list for now.

On that note, I strongly recommend you watch Beat Machines, it's one of the better written TF shows, and it will help you deal with the simplicity in Tankor's transformation (takara actually did a great job with this one).

Not badly written ... but damn did the ending suck.

No, not Beast Machines, Beat Machines! It's a show where the transformer characters form a band to battle vs other 80s franchises. Tankor was the percussion instrument player.

fenrir72 wrote:It's either or with Tomy wj88 with regards to Megatron, I'm expecting this to have the G1 toy color theme...........shinier.

However, since this is Takara we're dealing with here, the question of which "G1 toy color scheme" comes into play since Takara released G1 Megatron in not just more than one color scheme, but with each one being different from Hasbro's.

The original Japanese Megatron release had no shiny colors and had all its reds replaced with blue:



Then there was the "Good Bye Megatron" release that still had the unchromed gray but had the blue parts red like the Hasbro toy:



Later 21st century reissues would see Takara release the original Hasbro deco of shiny gray with red parts (but with the Encore release having a slight tan tint to its silver colors), minus the Chronicle release using the "Good Bye Megatron" deco of non-shiny gray with red.

@fenrir

You don't like Generations Darkmount (Straxus)?? That's one of my all time favorite Generations figures.

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:It's either or with Tomy wj88 with regards to Megatron, I'm expecting this to have the G1 toy color theme...........shinier.

However, since this is Takara we're dealing with here, the question of which "G1 toy color scheme" comes into play since Takara released G1 Megatron in not just more than one color scheme, but with each one being different from Hasbro's.

The original Japanese Megatron release had no shiny colors and had all its reds replaced with blue:



Then there was the "Good Bye Megatron" release that still had the unchromed gray but had the blue parts red like the Hasbro toy:



Later 21st century reissues would see Takara release the original Hasbro deco of shiny gray with red parts (but with the Encore release having a slight tan tint to its silver colors), minus the Chronicle release using the "Good Bye Megatron" deco of non-shiny gray with red.

The "bling" I mentioned pertains to subsequent Takara releases like the Silverbolt having spring launchers, Megatron having functional projectile launchers, extra paint apps etc. Though in Legends Jetfire's case, its the reverse.

only waiting for arcee

megatronus wrote:@fenrir

You don't like Generations Darkmount (Straxus)?? That's one of my all time favorite Generations figures.

Oh I like him alot! I even own the henkei/United/Generations versions of them. But he (Straxus) IS ugly as sin! Look at his face

fenrir72 wrote:

megatronus wrote:@fenrir

You don't like Generations Darkmount (Straxus)?? That's one of my all time favorite Generations figures.

Oh I like him alot! I even own the henkei/United/Generations versions of them. But he (Straxus) IS ugly as sin! Look at his face

What you consider ugly as sin I consider glorious! I wish I could put the Hasbro version's eyes on the United version's face...

megatronus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

megatronus wrote:@fenrir

You don't like Generations Darkmount (Straxus)?? That's one of my all time favorite Generations figures.

Oh I like him alot! I even own the henkei/United/Generations versions of them. But he (Straxus) IS ugly as sin! Look at his face

What you consider ugly as sin I consider glorious! I wish I could put the Hasbro version's eyes on the United version's face...

You don't like his cold soulless eys

When it comes to bad guys in general, there tends to be two kinds of ugliness. Cool ugly and awful ugly. Cool ugly is when the character's ugliness is fitting or beneficial to selling the character, helping them to look intimidating or just overall cool-looking, sometimes even to the point of "so ugly it's beautiful/gorgeous/handsome/etc." Awful ugly is when the ugliness is just too much to bear and ends up being a turnoff for the viewers, sometimes even to the point of being gross out disgusting or nightmarishly scary to look at.

I don't have the instructions so I don't know if it's mentioned there, but I love how one of Roadbuster's rocket launchers can be mounted / stored snug on his back. With the rocket loaded you get that "Brawl" look.

Sabrblade wrote:When it comes to bad guys in general, there tends to be two kinds of ugliness. Cool ugly and awful ugly. Cool ugly is when the character's ugliness is fitting or beneficial to selling the character, helping them to look intimidating or just overall cool-looking, sometimes even to the point of "so ugly it's beautiful/gorgeous/handsome/etc." Awful ugly is when the ugliness is just too much to bear and ends up being a turnoff for the viewers, sometimes even to the point of being gross out disgusting or nightmarishly scary to look at.

Straxus in this case is "scary"ugly!

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:When it comes to bad guys in general, there tends to be two kinds of ugliness. Cool ugly and awful ugly. Cool ugly is when the character's ugliness is fitting or beneficial to selling the character, helping them to look intimidating or just overall cool-looking, sometimes even to the point of "so ugly it's beautiful/gorgeous/handsome/etc." Awful ugly is when the ugliness is just too much to bear and ends up being a turnoff for the viewers, sometimes even to the point of being gross out disgusting or nightmarishly scary to look at.

Straxus in this case is "scary"ugly!

I guess now the question is, "Is 'scary' cool or awful?"

Scary, ugly but cool. Else I wouldn't have got him. Even back then in TF#16 and 17 he made an impression on me.

don't like that rectangular gap in the upper rectangular chest. Think it looks like Megatron is wearing a vest. Would love it if a shapeways guy created a gap filler piece to fill in the upper robot chest.

Looks like it but i'm hoping this toy doesn't have a waist piece like MP-22 has. That prevents the hips joints from have more walking range of movement. Did the same Takara Designer who did MP-22, also do this toy?

Tsutsukakushi wrote:don't like that rectangular gap in the upper rectangular chest. Think it looks like Megatron is wearing a vest. Would love it if a shapeways guy created a gap filler piece to fill in the upper robot chest.

It almost looks to me like that gap is where his insignia was supposed to go, but wound up being beneath it instead.

I'm wondering if the gap might be part of the toy's transformation.

That was fast!

May 2015 ETA






From: amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... 0&page=top

Edit......Always failed to mention.....He's got a nice face sculpt. Even better than MP-05.

Thank to a tip from fellow Seibertron.com user fenrir72, the news staff has sourced the release date of the Takara Tomy Legends deco of the upcoming Leader Megatron figure! Via site sponsor HobbyLinkJapan, we can confirm the big bad Decepticon Autobot robot will be heading your ways in May 2015 (and is currently up for pre-order at ¥6000, approx US$50)!

NOTE: The images below are Hasbro images used as placeholders for Takara listings.

Standing a majestic 25cm tall, Megatron transforms into a burly tank with a firing cannon! The metallic silver paint makes this amazing version of the Decepticon leader really stand out. Don't miss out, place your order now!

id pay 50 bucks for that