New Photos of Takara Unite Warriors Constructicons (for UW 04 Devastator)

Delta Magnus wrote:Meh. They still look hollow as hell. The improvements are definitely nice but they can't make up for the fact that the molds just plain and simple suck.

Sabrblade wrote:About the only things I don't like about the looks of these guys are how Bonecrusher and Long Haul are now less colorful and less detailed than their Hasbro versions since a lot of the silver paint and other colors on them have been removed and replaced with more of the green color. I know it's show-accurate, but it makes them look less exciting and more solidly a single (unflattering) color than these:
And just for fun, here's some comparisons with the others who look about as good as or better than their Hasbro versions:

Delta Magnus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Meh. They still look hollow as hell. The improvements are definitely nice but they can't make up for the fact that the molds just plain and simple suck.

Aaaaaaaaaaand you can do better? Just asking, you own the Hb version to be able to make a really unbiased opinion or is it based on just analyzing the images?

I watched Bobby Skullface's review of the Hasbro version, and quite frankly that was enough to put me off buying any version of these figures. Especially considering that far better alternatives exist- and ironically enough, far more readily available in this country.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:About the only things I don't like about the looks of these guys are how Bonecrusher and Long Haul are now less colorful and less detailed than their Hasbro versions since a lot of the silver paint and other colors on them have been removed and replaced with more of the green color. I know it's show-accurate, but it makes them look less exciting and more solidly a single (unflattering) color than these:
And just for fun, here's some comparisons with the others who look about as good as or better than their Hasbro versions:

That was my first thought, that they are - once again - going with the 'lazy show accurate' color scheme, these could have been something beautiful, but now they're just really cool.

Although, if you look closely at Takara Long Haul, you'll see a black square painted behind Long Haul's head. What purpose does this seemingly random paint app serve? To homage the black base that original toy's head was attached to, and which included in the cartoon model set behind his head:

• More show-accurate deco for both Devastator and the Constructicons
• A brand new headsculpt that contains a retractable visor to switch between both head designs
• Brand new gun weapons for each individual figure, all of which can store on Devastator's back
• Re-engineered arms for Scrapper to give him elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Long Haul to give him proper elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Hook to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Mixmaster to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered legs for Scavenger to give him better knees
• Re-engineered legs for Bonecrusher to give him better knees

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Meh. They still look hollow as hell. The improvements are definitely nice but they can't make up for the fact that the molds just plain and simple suck.

Aaaaaaaaaaand you can do better? Just asking, you own the Hb version to be able to make a really unbiased opinion or is it based on just analyzing the images?

I watched Bobby Skullface's review of the Hasbro version, and quite frankly that was enough to put me off buying any version of these figures. Especially considering that far better alternatives exist- and ironically enough, far more readily available in this country.

Well 'better' is extremely subjective here. Dunno what you look for in a figure, if it's solidity, yeah, there are a ton of immobile, overpriced, 3p lumps out there

Let's analyse this.

>Immboile:
Hercules is somewhat difficult to pose by modern standards, it's true, but he isn't actually missing any key pieces of articulation (such as, say, elbows) in any mode. And Giant is highly poseable, and incredibly stable. Personally from an aesthetic standpoint I prefer Hercules, but they're both good figure sets. They're also far, far less hollow and flimsy than CW Devastator. Obviously I can't comment on the as-yet unreleased Generation Toy and ToyWorld versions but they both look to be shaping up well. Plus, CW Devastator is hardly super poseable- sure he has a lot of joints, but he falls apart at the drop of a hat.

>Overpriced:
You get what you pay for. Giant and Hercules are well-engineered, solid, decent looking combiners. CW Devastator is poorly engineered, flimsy and hollow, misproportioned and barely a combiner given how many compromises were made to the individual robots.

>Lumps:
Funny, because if there's one word I'd use to describe CW Devastator, it's lumpy.

Personally, I haven't heard of anyone's gen devs 'falling apart at the drop of a hat'.

And like it or not, the point of the figure was to be as G1 accurate as possible - what I presume 3p companies have been trying, and failing, to do - the gen devs succeeds here is spades as far as I can tell; it may not have been what you or I wanted, but it is what they set out to do and delivered.

As for being lumpy, that could describe most of the g1 characters/figures, so it's hardly surprising or an argument

Delta Magnus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Personally, I haven't heard of anyone's gen devs 'falling apart at the drop of a hat'.

Watch Skullface's review. The leg connections in combined mode are utterly feeble.

And like it or not, the point of the figure was to be as G1 accurate as possible - what I presume 3p companies have been trying, and failing, to do - the gen devs succeeds here is spades as far as I can tell; it may not have been what you or I wanted, but it is what they set out to do and delivered.

GEEWUN accuracy shouldn't come above making a toy actually good. And in any case, they failed at that too, what with Long Haul looking blatantly terrible and Mixmaster looking absolutely nothing like his G1 self whatsoever.

As for being lumpy, that could describe most of the g1 characters/figures, so it's hardly surprising or an argument

Hey, you were the one who mentioned "lumpiness" as a problem to begin with.