New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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Comment by william-james88
Jun 25, 2020
Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 25, 2020
He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Jun 25, 2020
Then what's the unshrouded head that others have been talking about?
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 25, 2020
I dunno, I wasn't part of that conversation.ZeroWolf wrote:Then what's the unshrouded head that others have been talking about?
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But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.
Comment by william-james88
Jun 25, 2020
Sabrblade wrote:He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.
But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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The following is an early concept design for his robot mode, which Soundwave would have transformed into after scanning a black Chevrolet Silverado pickup truck in an early draft, and which Hasbro used as a basis for designing the ROTF satellite toy's robot mode after the plans for Chevy altmode were scrapped.
Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 25, 2020
Because, at the time, Hasbro and Paramount kept referring to the satellite mode as Soundwave's altmode.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.
But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.
The following is an early concept design for his robot mode, which Soundwave would have transformed into after scanning a black Chevrolet Silverado pickup truck in an early draft, and which Hasbro used as a basis for designing the ROTF satellite toy's robot mode after the plans for Chevy altmode were scrapped.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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Comment by jtanimator
Jun 25, 2020
Holy snap, somehow I'm just noticing that Cliffjumper is a remold of BB Movie Jeep Bee. Which I have no problem with, since that figure was my absolute favorite Bumblebee mold from the SS line. I'm just surprised nobody's jumped on pointing this out.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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In the movie, while in “satellite mode” Soundwave’s head was much more sleek and longer with a faceplate and a sort of visor (this can be seen on the alt mode of the old deluxe) while presumably in robot mode his head was pretty much just DotM Soundwave’s head (also seen on the old toy in robot mode). This new SS opts for lazily just using the standard Soundwave Robot head rather than having it become screen accurate for the alt mode, which is no real surprise given the alt mode in general for this figure is pretty terrible in my opinion.
Comment by Shockwave_640
Jun 25, 2020
ZeroWolf wrote:Then what's the unshrouded head that others have been talking about?
In the movie, while in “satellite mode” Soundwave’s head was much more sleek and longer with a faceplate and a sort of visor (this can be seen on the alt mode of the old deluxe) while presumably in robot mode his head was pretty much just DotM Soundwave’s head (also seen on the old toy in robot mode). This new SS opts for lazily just using the standard Soundwave Robot head rather than having it become screen accurate for the alt mode, which is no real surprise given the alt mode in general for this figure is pretty terrible in my opinion.
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Comment by jtanimator
Jun 25, 2020
Pretty disappointed that Soundwave lost the lathered up silver paint he was covered in. With such a weak alt mode, while also missing Ravage, that was one of the main things going for him.
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There was concept art for Soundwave’s robot mode in ROTF, which the toys and video game model (ROTF era) are based on. In the movie itself, though, we only see the Satellite mode. It’s a case similar to DOTM Shockwave, where we don’t see another mode in the movie itself so Hasbro came up with something.
The shrouded vs unshrouded head thing is about the ROTF deluxe, which had 2 heads: one for satellite mode (which is meant to resemble the head we see Soundwave with on-screen in ROTF, though it is different from the final film version), and a separate one for robot mode that’s based on the concept art. Since the SS figure is just based on what we saw on-screen, with a new robot mode specifically for this figure, it uses the same head in both modes.
Honestly, the included stand with that orbit backdrop is really neat looking - I’m thinking I might pick this one up, I’ll have to look at some reference pics to see what I could do with paint.
Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee
Jun 25, 2020
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.
But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.
There was concept art for Soundwave’s robot mode in ROTF, which the toys and video game model (ROTF era) are based on. In the movie itself, though, we only see the Satellite mode. It’s a case similar to DOTM Shockwave, where we don’t see another mode in the movie itself so Hasbro came up with something.
The shrouded vs unshrouded head thing is about the ROTF deluxe, which had 2 heads: one for satellite mode (which is meant to resemble the head we see Soundwave with on-screen in ROTF, though it is different from the final film version), and a separate one for robot mode that’s based on the concept art. Since the SS figure is just based on what we saw on-screen, with a new robot mode specifically for this figure, it uses the same head in both modes.
Honestly, the included stand with that orbit backdrop is really neat looking - I’m thinking I might pick this one up, I’ll have to look at some reference pics to see what I could do with paint.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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"Hey you darn kids! Get off my lawn!"
Does anybody else hear that?
Comment by MCutter
Jun 25, 2020
"Hey you darn kids! Get off my lawn!"
Does anybody else hear that?
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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Comment by YRQRM0
Jun 25, 2020
Soundwave looks quite terrible imo. The original is a more interesting design, at least looks closer to the movie in terms of how "busy" it is, and has FAR better pain. This looks like a random TLK Soundwave.
Cliffjumper on the other hand looks awesome and a lot of fun.
Cliffjumper on the other hand looks awesome and a lot of fun.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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The toy was revealed several months ago and a few have pointed it out since.
And thanks guys for clarifying the deal with Soundwave and his satelite mode.
Comment by william-james88
Jun 25, 2020
jtanimator wrote:Holy snap, somehow I'm just noticing that Cliffjumper is a remold of BB Movie Jeep Bee. Which I have no problem with, since that figure was my absolute favorite Bumblebee mold from the SS line. I'm just surprised nobody's jumped on pointing this out.
The toy was revealed several months ago and a few have pointed it out since.
And thanks guys for clarifying the deal with Soundwave and his satelite mode.
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Comment by Rtron
Jun 25, 2020
I might be speculating a bit too much, as there have been some figures with unique backgrounds (like Blackout or Clunker Bumblebee), but the way Earth is positioned in Soundwave's background reminds me of that scene in the first movie where the Autobots are falling into earth's atmosphere. Does this mean we might get the protoforms?
As for Soundwave himself, I like his headsculpt and torso / main satellite body way more than the ones on the original figure, but his limbs / panels seem worse than the original ones. I'll probably remain on the fence until there's some reviews out, but I'm not hating it as much as some do. Definitely looks better than in the renders, although Hasbro's renders are very bad so that's not surprising.
As for Soundwave himself, I like his headsculpt and torso / main satellite body way more than the ones on the original figure, but his limbs / panels seem worse than the original ones. I'll probably remain on the fence until there's some reviews out, but I'm not hating it as much as some do. Definitely looks better than in the renders, although Hasbro's renders are very bad so that's not surprising.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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Yup, Definitely.
Comment by -WonkoTheSane-
Jun 25, 2020
MCutter wrote:
"Hey you darn kids! Get off my lawn!"
Does anybody else hear that?
Yup, Definitely.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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Wait, what?
*compares the stock images*
Wow! I missed that, any any other comments on it. It looks like they removed the front wheels from the shoulders for a couple of the stock photos.
I do hope the drivers-side door tabs-in better on this remold.
Comment by MCutter
Jun 25, 2020
jtanimator wrote:Holy snap, somehow I'm just noticing that Cliffjumper is a remold of BB Movie Jeep Bee. Which I have no problem with, since that figure was my absolute favorite Bumblebee mold from the SS line. I'm just surprised nobody's jumped on pointing this out.
Wait, what?
*compares the stock images*
Wow! I missed that, any any other comments on it. It looks like they removed the front wheels from the shoulders for a couple of the stock photos.
I do hope the drivers-side door tabs-in better on this remold.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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And in that graveling Dr Claw voice too!
Comment by Ig89ninja
Jun 25, 2020
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:MCutter wrote:
"Hey you darn kids! Get off my lawn!"
Does anybody else hear that?
Yup, Definitely.
And in that graveling Dr Claw voice too!
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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Yeah, interesting. I don't know that I've ever seen them remove untransforming parts of a figure for display pictures like that. Definitely helped hide its remold effect.
Comment by jtanimator
Jun 25, 2020
MCutter wrote:jtanimator wrote:Holy snap, somehow I'm just noticing that Cliffjumper is a remold of BB Movie Jeep Bee. Which I have no problem with, since that figure was my absolute favorite Bumblebee mold from the SS line. I'm just surprised nobody's jumped on pointing this out.
Wait, what?
*compares the stock images*
Wow! I missed that, any any other comments on it. It looks like they removed the front wheels from the shoulders for a couple of the stock photos.
I do hope the drivers-side door tabs-in better on this remold.
Yeah, interesting. I don't know that I've ever seen them remove untransforming parts of a figure for display pictures like that. Definitely helped hide its remold effect.
Re: New Stock Images of Transformers Studio Series Cliffjumper, Skipjack, ROTF Soundwave and Topspin
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According to TFwiki that's the finalized head design.
Which is blatantly untrue, because there are severals shots where the head is unshrouded as per the toys' robot modes (although on a double-check the ROTF toy's real head isn't accurate after all
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In fact, I'm feeling like a bit of an idiot now at least re: the head (the SS toy's satellite mode as a whole is still dodgy and he still seems too small). And also mad at TFwiki. Because I'm struggling to find any instance of his head being armor-shrouded head and minus the G1-esque crests in the movie. It does have a long backwards protrusion, but I have yet to find a single shot of it looking as it does in the render (which the TFwiki page is insisting is the "finalized head design").
If I could remember my account name on TFwiki I'd tell them on the discussion page that they're talking out their exhaust port.
Apologies to everyone for getting worked up over the head aspect..
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Jun 25, 2020
This is the shrouded version:EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He was only ever seen in satellite mode in the movie, but with his robot mode head always deployed as if it was part of his altmode.william-james88 wrote:Just curious, but do we know for a fact that Soundwave had 2 modes in ROTF? Because as far as I know, he was only ever a Robot with no legs floating around in space.
But thats my question, how do we know that's an alt mode? As opposed to his robot mode, or that he even has 2 modes.
There was concept art for Soundwave’s robot mode in ROTF, which the toys and video game model (ROTF era) are based on. In the movie itself, though, we only see the Satellite mode. It’s a case similar to DOTM Shockwave, where we don’t see another mode in the movie itself so Hasbro came up with something.
The shrouded vs unshrouded head thing is about the ROTF deluxe, which had 2 heads: one for satellite mode (which is meant to resemble the head we see Soundwave with on-screen in ROTF, though it is different from the final film version), and a separate one for robot mode that’s based on the concept art. Since the SS figure is just based on what we saw on-screen, with a new robot mode specifically for this figure, it uses the same head in both modes.
According to TFwiki that's the finalized head design.
Which is blatantly untrue, because there are severals shots where the head is unshrouded as per the toys' robot modes (although on a double-check the ROTF toy's real head isn't accurate after all
):In fact, I'm feeling like a bit of an idiot now at least re: the head (the SS toy's satellite mode as a whole is still dodgy and he still seems too small). And also mad at TFwiki. Because I'm struggling to find any instance of his head being armor-shrouded head and minus the G1-esque crests in the movie. It does have a long backwards protrusion, but I have yet to find a single shot of it looking as it does in the render (which the TFwiki page is insisting is the "finalized head design").
If I could remember my account name on TFwiki I'd tell them on the discussion page that they're talking out their exhaust port.
Apologies to everyone for getting worked up over the head aspect..
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Comment by Nathaniel Prime
Jun 25, 2020
Not sure if all Targets are doing this but I got Jet Mode Shatter for only 10$
