william-james88 wrote:Prime's alt mode is all over him in most of his toys. His chest usually has his truck windows. Thats why no one minds the grill changing a bit, the alt mode is clearly visible everywhere else. But with movie figures, they looks like junkyards and now one of the main parts of barricade which actually looks like it could be from a car is a fake piece. Thats just weak sauce man.
Just going by the past couple years of G1 Optimus Prime toys: Titans Return Voyager. Fake windows. Power of the Primes Leader. Fake windows (on top of the real windows from what i see in a picture of the matrix chamber?). Titans Return Leader barely has windows to begin with but ends up covering the vast majority of the chest with random looking silver crap that doesn't look even in the slightest truck-like.
And really what else could that Barricade toy turn into do you think? His chest still looks plenty car-like to me. Plus the wheels and car doors? Why, I can't possibly figure it out. Helicopter? Nah. Jet, nah. Dunno. oh wait... DINOSAUR? no? Well, I'm stumped.
"they looks like junkyards" Ah now see this is where we totally disagree. I think the movie characters, for the most part are beautifully designed and helped pushed past the over-use of simplistic generic-looking robot designs that a lot of (particularly vehicular-based) Transformers had been using for the past 20+ years. Even something as simple as how the 2007 Concept Camaro Bee toy's chest turn ups at the sides with the middle kept down like it was saying 'nah' to choosing between the old G1 Sideswipe/Hot Rod hood down and the Prowl/Jazz 'car-boobs' look and went for a fresh mixture of the two.
Anyways you've been ignoring actual good points made by myself and (a very well written post) by Wolfman-Jake about just how much engineering can be fit into certain sizes of figures when trying to maintain character model accuracy and you've not provided any sensible alternatives. They've tried twice to get the car front turning into the robot chest in the 2007 toy (which just looks horribly inaccurate and poor these days) and the DotM figure (which still uses a fake part to some extent since the middle of the grill and bumper end up on the inside with a fake angled one flipped out to try resemble the movie CGI model a bit more). So they've tried. This time we finally getting a Deluxe Barricade that looks about as accurate and awesome as a Deluxe Class Barricade could ever look and if it does that with a lil bit of 'cheating' I'm absolutely frickin' fine with that since as I said before, it looks fantastic in both modes and is still a transforming figure. I mean if it REALLY cheated by having a completely seperate piece you had to remove (like if you had to take off the car front completely and set it aside and attach another totally seperate chest piece on), now that I would think would be pretty lousy cos 'partsforming' is generally lame and for the most part should have died with the various original G1 toys such as the seeker jets and Ultra Magnus. But nope, if this toy does indeed have two car fronts in both car and robot mode versions within the toy itself then it's doing a good job of hiding it because the car mode itself looks great and far superior to previous versions (Yay for having PROPER transparent rear windows this time... the 2007 and DotM figures DO NOT) and has by far the most accurate rendition of his awesome robot mode the Deluxe class has ever done too. Even if the real car front is visible from the back of the figure (which haven't seen yet) I'd be ok with that cos it's still mostly hidden from general view and it's not blatantly just sticking out (the side view in the photos looks actually very clean).
And i'm not even sure what 'weak sauce' even is. Some internet slang thing i missed out on or something. Having to resort to a silly picture like that in such a debate seems very cheap itself.
