New Video Reviews for HFTD Desert Combat Ravage & Animated Black Convoy
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Comment by wolverinetodd
Aug 13, 2010
I'm confused about Black Convoy, so please excuse my ignorance on the subject. Is Black Convoy supposed to be Nemesis Prime and if so, then shouldn't the faction symbol be Decepticon instead of Autobot? I thought the same when Masterpiece Black Convoy came out and it too had the Autobot faction symbol on it.
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Not a Nemesis. Can't explain why all that well. But i'm sure someone will come through and explain. I really don't know how the setup for this Black Convoy is. Well not even a Black Convoy, because the character originated in America, so it's Optimus.
I just hurt myself.
Comment by Forgotten
Aug 13, 2010
wolverinetodd wrote:I'm confused about Black Convoy, so please excuse my ignorance on the subject. Is Black Convoy supposed to be Nemesis Prime and if so, then shouldn't the faction symbol be Decepticon instead of Autobot? I thought the same when Masterpiece Black Convoy came out and it too had the Autobot faction symbol on it.
Not a Nemesis. Can't explain why all that well. But i'm sure someone will come through and explain. I really don't know how the setup for this Black Convoy is. Well not even a Black Convoy, because the character originated in America, so it's Optimus.
I just hurt myself.
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Comment by TFBuyer
Aug 13, 2010
So, exactly HOW limited is that "Black Convoy" *cough* Nemesis Prime *cough*?? I think he said 300 or so now, but another show coming? I wouldn't mind snagging one of those...
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Comment by Atomatron
Aug 13, 2010
Hell yes! Another Fallen and Ravage!
Now my collection will be complete!
No wait, still need Tuner Skids!
Now my collection will be complete!
No wait, still need Tuner Skids!
Re: New Video Reviews for HFTD Desert Combat Ravage & Animated Black Convoy
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I've explained it before and I'll explain it again:
The Japanese have an extreme fondness for black repaints, as evidenced in the different TF lines and outside of them (like Super Sentai). However, They also hate repaints that are turned into new characters. So most of the time, a Japanese black repaint is the same character, only in black. These are denoted as "(Name) Black Version", unlike the evil clones who are named "Black (name)". Here's the short list of Japanese black repaints, separated between the two categories:
Evil Clones
BWII Black Lioconvoy
BW Neo Black Big Convoy (not Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime)
CR Black Convoy (aka RiD Scourge)
ML Scourge with Sweep (Armada Nemesis Prime with Run-Over)
BT Black Convoy (Alternator Nemesis Prime)
Black Versions (i.e. same character)
JAFCon Convoy
Nucleon Quest Super Convoy
MP-1B Convoy Black Version
THS-02B G1 Convoy Black Version
A-01 Convoy Super Black (repurposed as Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime)
To reiterate: Not every black Prime repaint is a Nemesis Prime!
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Aug 13, 2010
Forgotten wrote:wolverinetodd wrote:I'm confused about Black Convoy, so please excuse my ignorance on the subject. Is Black Convoy supposed to be Nemesis Prime and if so, then shouldn't the faction symbol be Decepticon instead of Autobot? I thought the same when Masterpiece Black Convoy came out and it too had the Autobot faction symbol on it.
Not a Nemesis. Can't explain why all that well. But i'm sure someone will come through and explain. I really don't know how the setup for this Black Convoy is. Well not even a Black Convoy, because the character originated in America, so it's Optimus.
I've explained it before and I'll explain it again:
The Japanese have an extreme fondness for black repaints, as evidenced in the different TF lines and outside of them (like Super Sentai). However, They also hate repaints that are turned into new characters. So most of the time, a Japanese black repaint is the same character, only in black. These are denoted as "(Name) Black Version", unlike the evil clones who are named "Black (name)". Here's the short list of Japanese black repaints, separated between the two categories:
Evil Clones
BWII Black Lioconvoy
BW Neo Black Big Convoy (not Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime)
CR Black Convoy (aka RiD Scourge)
ML Scourge with Sweep (Armada Nemesis Prime with Run-Over)
BT Black Convoy (Alternator Nemesis Prime)
Black Versions (i.e. same character)
JAFCon Convoy
Nucleon Quest Super Convoy
MP-1B Convoy Black Version
THS-02B G1 Convoy Black Version
A-01 Convoy Super Black (repurposed as Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime)
To reiterate: Not every black Prime repaint is a Nemesis Prime!
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Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry I missed the first few times you had to explain it.
Ironic that the Japanese hate repaints that are turned into completely different characters as I would rather the repaint be a completely different character (ROTF Sideswipe & ROTF Swerve). At least I feel like I'm getting something for my money as opposed to an existing character with a different paint job (i.e. ROTF Shadow Command Megatron) where I feel I'm being cheated out of my money.
Comment by wolverinetodd
Aug 13, 2010
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Forgotten wrote:wolverinetodd wrote:I'm confused about Black Convoy, so please excuse my ignorance on the subject. Is Black Convoy supposed to be Nemesis Prime and if so, then shouldn't the faction symbol be Decepticon instead of Autobot? I thought the same when Masterpiece Black Convoy came out and it too had the Autobot faction symbol on it.
Not a Nemesis. Can't explain why all that well. But i'm sure someone will come through and explain. I really don't know how the setup for this Black Convoy is. Well not even a Black Convoy, because the character originated in America, so it's Optimus.
I've explained it before and I'll explain it again:
The Japanese have an extreme fondness for black repaints, as evidenced in the different TF lines and outside of them (like Super Sentai). However, They also hate repaints that are turned into new characters. So most of the time, a Japanese black repaint is the same character, only in black. These are denoted as "(Name) Black Version", unlike the evil clones who are named "Black (name)". Here's the short list of Japanese black repaints, separated between the two categories:
Evil Clones
BWII Black Lioconvoy
BW Neo Black Big Convoy (not Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime)
CR Black Convoy (aka RiD Scourge)
ML Scourge with Sweep (Armada Nemesis Prime with Run-Over)
BT Black Convoy (Alternator Nemesis Prime)
Black Versions (i.e. same character)
JAFCon Convoy
Nucleon Quest Super Convoy
MP-1B Convoy Black Version
THS-02B G1 Convoy Black Version
A-01 Convoy Super Black (repurposed as Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime)
To reiterate: Not every black Prime repaint is a Nemesis Prime!
Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry I missed the first few times you had to explain it.
Ironic that the Japanese hate repaints that are turned into completely different characters as I would rather the repaint be a completely different character (ROTF Sideswipe & ROTF Swerve). At least I feel like I'm getting something for my money as opposed to an existing character with a different paint job (i.e. ROTF Shadow Command Megatron) where I feel I'm being cheated out of my money.
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hey everyone im back from my week at camp hinds
did any one miss me(blurrz maybe) nice
Comment by soundwave#1!!!500%
Aug 13, 2010
hey everyone im back from my week at camp hinds did any one miss me(blurrz maybe)
nice
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Comment by GaffaTrion
Aug 15, 2010
the fallen looks great! they should have had the staff and removable mask with the early versions though.
the others are all ok and still might pick some of them up
the others are all ok and still might pick some of them up
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As far as I can tell, it's in the 1300-1500 range.
Comment by Razorclaw0000
Aug 16, 2010
TFBuyer wrote:So, exactly HOW limited is that "Black Convoy" *cough* Nemesis Prime *cough*?? I think he said 300 or so now, but another show coming? I wouldn't mind snagging one of those...
As far as I can tell, it's in the 1300-1500 range.
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Comment by Onslaught22
Aug 16, 2010
I am an admitted Black Convoy/ Nemesis Prime/ Scourge junkie, so when I saw the TFA Optimus done in this style, I was all over it. I just received mine today via Ebay, and it is a large slice of pure awesome. The paint apps are perfect and he has just that right amount of badass-ness that I am officially calling him TFA Nemesis Prime (at least in my own home, and apparently in a worldwide forum LOL) 
On a serious note, though, considering how well it was done and the limited production of this figure, I definitely recommend picking it up if you are a TFA fan.
On a serious note, though, considering how well it was done and the limited production of this figure, I definitely recommend picking it up if you are a TFA fan.
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gone!?!?! Did anyone notice you were gone?
Comment by GEEWUN
Aug 18, 2010
soundwave#1!!!500% wrote::CON: hey everyone im back from my week at camp hinds
did any one miss me(blurrz maybe)
gone!?!?! Did anyone notice you were gone?
