Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype

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After a Starscream/Seeker mold, could we be seeing the first of Combiner Wars Prowl? Continuing from Seibertron's exploration of the Indianapolis Children's Museum Transformers: Robots in Disguise exhibit, we have another prototype on display that does not seem to fit any police car we have seen so far (Streetwise, for example, or the Beast Hunters Prowl). What do you make of this? Check out the image, and let us know in the Energon Pub!

UPDATE: As pointed out by Seibertron.com user rickdraco, this does look almost identical to the Beast Hunters simplified Deluxe Smokescreen mold, with the addition of police lights - compare the two images below!

Transformers News: Potential Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Prowl Prototype

Credit(s): The Children’s Museum of Indianapolis

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Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660095)
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:38am CST

I'm gonna go with 2015 RID Prowl not CW.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660096)
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:39am CST

I think we can all agree that if they do a prowl, he needs to be a voyager, and go on devestator. Anything less would be kinda shitty.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660100)
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:43am CST

Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna go with 2015 RID Prowl not CW.

Your face is RID15.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660103)
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:46am CST

Va'al wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna go with 2015 RID Prowl not CW.

Your face is RID15.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660104)
Posted by rickdraco on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:46am CST

Hmm, from the looks of it, that proto is pretty blatantly based on the simplified deluxe prime Smokescreen mold.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660106)
Posted by ScottyP on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:49am CST

rickdraco wrote:Hmm, from the looks of it, that proto is pretty blatantly based on the simplified deluxe prime Smokescreen mold.

I knew that car looked familiar. That's it, just with police lights on it.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660110)
Posted by gothsaurus on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:52am CST

Sorry...in my opinion that weird prowl is Devastator notion is best left in the comics. It was really out in left field.

Since there is a combiner prowl coming soon, I doubt Hasbro would put two deluxes on the shelf at the same time. I'm guessing this is either combiner wars Prowl… Or another police character entirely, which may or may not be in rid2015.

I guess my money is on the former. Looks like the right proportions. Still I would be sad if his entire chest is it made out of the car. That is the iconic look for him and jazz… And the other Datsun brothers

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660111)
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:52am CST

ScottyP wrote:
rickdraco wrote:Hmm, from the looks of it, that proto is pretty blatantly based on the simplified deluxe prime Smokescreen mold.

I knew that car looked familiar. That's it, just with police lights on it.

Ah! we may be onto something there!

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660117)
Posted by ScottyP on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:56am CST

Va'al wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
rickdraco wrote:Hmm, from the looks of it, that proto is pretty blatantly based on the simplified deluxe prime Smokescreen mold.

I knew that car looked familiar. That's it, just with police lights on it.

Ah! we may be onto something there!

Yep, and the police lights are just pegged into that hole at the top of the car. Dead on the same mold otherwise (head notwithstanding which can't be seen). I'd suspect this is either something that got canceled, or something going into RiD 2015.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660119)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:57am CST

It looks great which ever line it's for

well alt mode looks great.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660140)
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:16am CST

This is definitely rid2015 not cw as why would there be a beast hunters mold (presumably) in combiner wars subline when it would logically be in Robots in Disguise 2015 giving the fact of 87% similarity between this and simplified deluxe class beast hunters smokescreen

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660142)
Posted by rickdraco on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:16am CST

I agree, it does look like it could be a great figure. Just a shame last year we got almost none of the decent figures on mainline release here in the UK, drattted Toysrus got them all as exclusives.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660146)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:23am CST

I now strangely want the simplified mold it looks like it could be fun and I like simplified cut throat.

Also this is a face palm moment now that someone pointed out that it's smokescreen ... After all normal smokescreen was retooled into beast hunters prowl and legions smokescreen was turned into legions prowl :lol:

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660149)
Posted by Sigmus Prime on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:26am CST

*Echs internally*

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660152)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:29am CST

Another repaint/retool? Come on now, we had this already! Why are there not any more new molds for these characters? I feel insulted by this bologna! Who is controlling this?!

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660162)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:37am CST

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Another repaint/retool? Come on now, we had this already! Why are there not any more new molds for these characters? I feel insulted by this bologna! Who is controlling this?!

Bologna?

Hasbro are obviously trying to get costs covered. A lot of money goes into designing these toys and engineering. Especially if they are to have gimmicks. Repaints and retools cost far less and allow for more toys to be added to the lines.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660164)
Posted by Moosey on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:38am CST

As I said with the starscream reveal, this could just be to show kids prototyping and how much goes into designing a figure, for all we know this guy will never be released.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660167)
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:39am CST

ZeroWolf wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Another repaint/retool? Come on now, we had this already! Why are there not any more new molds for these characters? I feel insulted by this bologna! Who is controlling this?!

Bologna?

Hasbro are obviously trying to get costs covered. A lot of money goes into designing these toys and engineering. Especially if they are to have gimmicks. Repaints and retools cost far less and allow for more toys to be added to the lines.

Why are we assuming these are prototypes for upcoming figures and not abandoned prototypes that never went beyond that stage?

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660170)
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:42am CST

Because I said so. [-(

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660180)
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:56am CST

Va'al wrote:Because I said so.

Ya. Because Va'al said so.

These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.

Good one Moosey!

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660182)
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:58am CST

Mleeeeh.

*falls asleep*

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660185)
Posted by Moosey on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:01am CST

Cobotron wrote:
Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
Ya. Because Va'al said so.

These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.

Good one Moosey!

Yay! I won!

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660186)
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:03am CST

ThatOneMoose wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
Ya. Because Va'al said so.

These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.

Good one Moosey!

Yay! I won!

Give the kid a prize! :APPLAUSE:

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660193)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:23am CST

Will why did you quote me to say that

ill sign on to the cancelled prototypes though (unless they have a phase were a big prototype is made before they are shrank, if that's the case then it's legions prowl)

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660207)
Posted by Madeus Prime on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:55am CST

Money is on RID15 Prowl figure.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660213)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:59am CST

Okay, strange thing just happened to me, here. Before typing this post, I hadn't made a post in this thread, nor did I subscribe to it. I had, however, taken a look at it, but nothing more. Yet, just now, I got a new post email alert for this topic like I do for other topics I'm subscribed to. Wha? :???:

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660216)
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 12:02pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Okay, strange thing just happened to me, here. Before typing this post, I hadn't made a post in this thread, nor did I subscribe to it. I had, however, taken a look at it, but nothing more. Yet, just now, I got a new post email alert for this topic like I do for other topics I'm subscribed to. Wha?

Can't remember which thread, but this happened to me in the last 2 or 3 days too. :-?

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660230)
Posted by Agamemnon on March 7th, 2015 @ 12:18pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Okay, strange thing just happened to me, here. Before typing this post, I hadn't made a post in this thread, nor did I subscribe to it. I had, however, taken a look at it, but nothing more. Yet, just now, I got a new post email alert for this topic like I do for other topics I'm subscribed to. Wha?

I was thinking the same thing. Did this start in the CW thread and get moved? That's my best guess.

I do like the look, but it doesn't feel too CW to me. If this comes out in the RID line, I think I'll get it.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660243)
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 12:47pm CST

Agamemnon wrote:I was thinking the same thing. Did this start in the CW thread and get moved? That's my best guess.

That must be it. I got notification from the CW Leader Class thread, which was also moved fro the CW thread.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660245)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 12:50pm CST

Yeah this was spun out of the combiner wars thread. I think it was moved once someone pointed out it was the prime smokescreen mold

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660256)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 7th, 2015 @ 1:09pm CST

It makes sense that Hasbro would prototype the BH Upsized Smokescreen mold as Prowl since they did the same thing in the Legions line. My guess is the figure was scrapped when they decided not to go forward with the Upsized line.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660259)
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 1:12pm CST

ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah this was spun out of the combiner wars thread. I think it was moved once someone pointed out it was the prime smokescreen mold

Strange that subscriptions carry on from old thread though.. :-?

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660261)
Posted by Agamemnon on March 7th, 2015 @ 1:16pm CST

Va'al wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah this was spun out of the combiner wars thread. I think it was moved once someone pointed out it was the prime smokescreen mold

Strange that subscriptions carry on from old thread though..

Now I am wondering if I lost my CW subscription... :-?

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660283)
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2015 @ 2:30pm CST

ZeroWolf wrote:Will why did you quote me to say that ill sign on to the cancelled prototypes though (unless they have a phase were a big prototype is made before they are shrank, if that's the case then it's legions prowl)

Well, I wanted to quote OptimalOptimus2 since my reply was directly related to what he was saying. But I liked what you said and wanted to keep it in the discussion too.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660289)
Posted by Mr O on March 7th, 2015 @ 3:05pm CST

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It makes sense that Hasbro would prototype the BH Upsized Smokescreen mold as Prowl since they did the same thing in the Legions line. My guess is the figure was scrapped when they decided not to go forward with the Upsized line.

A million times this. I played with the idea of Hasbro having the cheek to release it as an R.I.D Warrior but I think even they'd be too smart to go there.
What Chuck said, no more than that.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660313)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 7th, 2015 @ 4:55pm CST

Why are you so certain it's Prowl? It could be Barricade.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660320)
Posted by Mr O on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:13pm CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:Why are you so certain it's Prowl? It could be Barricade.

It isn't anyone. It could have been either of those. If it is anyone, it's Smokescreen with beacons what that never was, but would have been Prowl, but wasn't, like. :HEADHURTS:

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660323)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:15pm CST

Mr O wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Why are you so certain it's Prowl? It could be Barricade.
If it is anyone, it's Smokescreen with beacons what that never was, but would have been Prowl, but wasn't, like.

The 2nd half of that sentence makes no sense.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660325)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:22pm CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Mr O wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Why are you so certain it's Prowl? It could be Barricade.
If it is anyone, it's Smokescreen with beacons what that never was, but would have been Prowl, but wasn't, like.
The 2nd half of that sentence makes no sense.

I'm reminded of "The Bear that wasn't"...

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660329)
Posted by Mr O on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:26pm CST

I did indicate that my head hurts.

Edit:- Also, I'm Welsh. To a Welsh, it makes sense.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660333)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:33pm CST

So you're saying as it currently stands, it's nobody as it has no proper characterization as a prototype, it's simply "Smokescreen with a light bar". But would it have been released, it most certainly would have been Prowl, but since it wasn't released, it's not Prowl. :lol:

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660351)
Posted by Mr O on March 7th, 2015 @ 6:37pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So you're saying as it currently stands, it's nobody as it has no proper characterization as a prototype, it's simply "Smokescreen with a light bar". But would it have been released, it most certainly would have been Prowl, but since it wasn't released, it's not Prowl.

Essentially, exactly. Just in Welsh.

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660359)
Posted by Moosey on March 7th, 2015 @ 7:15pm CST

Cobotron wrote:
ThatOneMoose wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
Ya. Because Va'al said so.

These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.

Good one Moosey!

Yay! I won!
Give the kid a prize!

I like prizes... Pretty please admins can I has name change to Moosey? :3

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660362)
Posted by Burn on March 7th, 2015 @ 7:27pm CST

ThatOneMoose wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
ThatOneMoose wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
Ya. Because Va'al said so.

These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.

Good one Moosey!

Yay! I won!
Give the kid a prize!

I like prizes... Pretty please admins can I has name change to Moosey? :3

You SHOULD be able to do that yourself through the control panel.
(I could probably do it but it might stuff up your login and then you'd be e-mailing me and I'd be all "gah ... should have just done it himself *rage* *blargle* *smash*")

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660366)
Posted by Moosey on March 7th, 2015 @ 7:47pm CST

Burn wrote:
ThatOneMoose wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
ThatOneMoose wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
Ya. Because Va'al said so.

These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.

Good one Moosey!

Yay! I won!
Give the kid a prize!

I like prizes... Pretty please admins can I has name change to Moosey? :3

You SHOULD be able to do that yourself through the control panel.
(I could probably do it but it might stuff up your login and then you'd be e-mailing me and I'd be all "gah ... should have just done it himself *rage* *blargle* *smash*")

Oh, didn't realize that, sorry for being a klutz..... Somehow "Moosey" was already taken..

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660380)
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 8:27pm CST

Moosey :3 wrote:
Burn wrote:
ThatOneMoose wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
ThatOneMoose wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
Ya. Because Va'al said so.

These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.

Good one Moosey!

Yay! I won!
Give the kid a prize!

I like prizes... Pretty please admins can I has name change to Moosey? :3

You SHOULD be able to do that yourself through the control panel.
(I could probably do it but it might stuff up your login and then you'd be e-mailing me and I'd be all "gah ... should have just done it himself *rage* *blargle* *smash*")

Oh, didn't realize that, sorry for being a klutz..... Somehow "Moosey" was already taken..

HEY!
MOOSEY!

you did it!

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660460)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 8th, 2015 @ 1:15am CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So you're saying as it currently stands, it's nobody as it has no proper characterization as a prototype, it's simply "Smokescreen with a light bar". But would it have been released, it most certainly would have been Prowl, but since it wasn't released, it's not Prowl.

Shrodingers Toy?

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660495)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 8th, 2015 @ 4:08am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Will why did you quote me to say that ill sign on to the cancelled prototypes though (unless they have a phase were a big prototype is made before they are shrank, if that's the case then it's legions prowl)

Well, I wanted to quote OptimalOptimus2 since my reply was directly related to what he was saying. But I liked what you said and wanted to keep it in the discussion too.

ah I understand, no foul here then

Re: Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype (1660551)
Posted by Agamemnon on March 8th, 2015 @ 9:47am CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So you're saying as it currently stands, it's nobody as it has no proper characterization as a prototype, it's simply "Smokescreen with a light bar". But would it have been released, it most certainly would have been Prowl, but since it wasn't released, it's not Prowl.

Shrodingers Toy?

Love. It.