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Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes

Posted by william-james88 Sep 22, 2020 at 4:55pm CDT 33,424 views
There are listings up now on Walmart for the first wave of the Transformers Kingdom line. None of them are toys we did not know we'd be getting BUT we do see their retail prices now. these come to us from fellow Seibertronian JTPrime17.

Core Rattrap $9.99
Deluxe Cheetor $22.99
Voyager $29.99
Leader $49.99

While this price hike isn't fun, it could be worse, like the upcoming deluxe sized like Hot Rod being sold as a voyager for $29.99 over in the Studio Series 86 line.







Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes
Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes
Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes
Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes
Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes
Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes
Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes
Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes

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Comment by Tuned Agent Sep 22, 2020
william-james88 wrote:While this price hike isn't fun, it could be worse, like the upcoming deluxe sized like Hot Rod being sold as a voyager for $29.99 over in the Studio Series 86 line.

Not really, at least Hot Rod is getting a higher parts count, more complexity, more articulation and more accessories for his price hike (though I still think he's overpriced). The Kingdom deluxes aren't getting any of that. Warpath and Blackarachnia are both both smaller-than-average deluxes, and Cheetor has a pretty lackluster deco, so we very well could be getting less than before on top of the price hike.

I was seriously considering buying all the beasts, but IMO $20 was already pushing it for current deluxes. Assuming this isn't a Wal-Mart goof, I guess I'll at least be waiting for sales.
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Comment by mech_dh Sep 22, 2020
Back when I was a kid deluxes were 10 bucks. Now they are almost the old price of a voyager. Oh well, that’s what bargain hunting is for.
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Comment by o.supreme Sep 22, 2020
Wow it was just 4 years ago (TR) when deluxes were 16 at Walmart and Target, and I thought Walgreens charging $18 for a deluxe was a rip-off
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Comment by Ultra Markus Sep 22, 2020
mech_dh wrote:Back when I was a kid deluxes were 10 bucks. Now they are almost the old price of a voyager. Oh well, that’s what bargain hunting is for.

those were the days, 5 bucks for legends or scout
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Comment by bacem Sep 22, 2020
Tuned Agent wrote:
william-james88 wrote:While this price hike isn't fun, it could be worse, like the upcoming deluxe sized like Hot Rod being sold as a voyager for $29.99 over in the Studio Series 86 line.

Not really, at least Hot Rod is getting a higher parts count, more complexity, more articulation and more accessories for his price hike (though I still think he's overpriced). The Kingdom deluxes aren't getting any of that. Warpath and Blackarachnia are both both smaller-than-average deluxes, and Cheetor has a pretty lackluster deco, so we very well could be getting less than before on top of the price hike.

I was seriously considering buying all the beasts, but IMO $20 was already pushing it for current deluxes. Assuming this isn't a Wal-Mart goof, I guess I'll at least be waiting for sales.


It could be walmart goof, or we haven't seen all accesories that comes with each figures yet. Considering the reviews are using stolen, loose copies, there's chance they are incomplete.
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Comment by 84everfan Sep 22, 2020
I'm 19 now, and this makes 2 price markups in the last what, five years? Hell $20 for deluxes that all vary in size? No thank you. At this point there's no purpose in varying them by size class if cliffjumper's gonna be smaller than sideswipe at the same price. This is primus tier b.s. This is why I wait for masterpieces. Id rather pay an inflated price for something show accurate than a parts forming p.o.s. that's made of cheap plastic and more hollow than joe biden's head. This is why I never understand you people complaining about masterpiece prices. More accuracy= more complicated engineering= more parts= more machinery and molds= inflated price, and if they have to add some accessories that had 3 seconds of screentime to justify the price for us, then more power to em. Bumblebee was awful yes but we all know we needed a seeker update to get rid of the first mp seeker's upsidown cockpit beer gut . "Ugh I'd rather have a toy that feels nice rather than accuracy" Guess what? MAYBE DON'T BUY THE MASTERPIECES?!?!? I'd rather have a line that prioritizes accuracy AND fun rather than only playability. Some of you people complain about the price hike of masterpieces but will then proceed to buy 30 bots that transform into RAMPS that fit MAYBE two separate size classes. I know someone said "ugh if you don't like complaining then why did you complain about the funko pops? A. Those things are abominations, and can't decide between being toy or show accurate, and instead try and fail to do both, B. I'm going to give you all the benefit of the doubt and say 40% AT THE MOST of your complaints against masterpieces are justified. God this rant spiraled into a completely separate subject, but I think it's relevant. This is barely even my opinion it's just marketing and economics, and if someone cares to correct me and make me look like an idiot and lose all credibility then go ahead, I don't care, it's not my website. It's Primus' universe and I'm just getting railed by it with Negans baseball bat, and I hate the walking dead.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (view post)
Comment by Joetx Sep 22, 2020
Heck, the $20 for current deluxes is too much, especially when you have big open empty spaces in the legs & arms, & the legs can easily fall off.
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Comment by LE0KING Sep 22, 2020
I'm no white knight, but when you think about the fact that hasbro is selling marvel legends figures for 20 bucks and that they are incredibly simple and straightforward figures with zero engineering or complexity, 23 for a similar sized toy that has equivalent articulation, better feeling plastic, higher parts count, and actually turns into an entirely different toy doesn't seem so ridiculous.
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Comment by SpikeyTigertron Sep 22, 2020
To be honest, I think the prices for deluxe have been sitting @ $21.99 Walmart/Amazon/Target just keep it down. BBTS and TFSource have been charging $21.99 since... what... the start of siege, if not the end of Titan's Return? For a while I thought it was just e-tailer mark-up. But I think I remember SDCC cards from last year mention a 21.99 MSRP. As for those complaining about mark-ups. I remember when dexluxes used to be $8.99-9.99. Sure that was probably going on 20 years ago now... but... it's just price creep with the times.
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Comment by aronjlove Sep 22, 2020
LE0KING wrote:I'm no white knight, but when you think about the fact that hasbro is selling marvel legends figures for 20 bucks and that they are incredibly simple and straightforward figures with zero engineering or complexity, 23 for a similar sized toy that has equivalent articulation, better feeling plastic, higher parts count, and actually turns into an entirely different toy doesn't seem so ridiculous.

Seriously, just look at what else is on the shelves and their prices. Look at the cost of the Angry Birds or Fortnite stuff which have zero articulation and cost ten to twelve bucks. Lego sets have gone up and they are literally just bricks.
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Comment by Deadput Sep 22, 2020
Just about everything is going up in price it's not just Transformers, it's not simply a matter of greed from the company this is just the reality we live in where concepts like inflation are in place.

If you don't like the prices now it sure ain't going to be better 5 years from now, so I'd say it's about time for anyone to jump out of collecting if the prices are too much for yourself right now.
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Comment by Betenoire Sep 22, 2020
Deadput wrote:Just about everything is going up in price it's not just Transformers, it's not simply a matter of greed from the company this is just the reality we live in where concepts like inflation are in place.

If you don't like the prices now it sure ain't going to be better 5 years from now, so I'd say it's about time for anyone to jump out of collecting if the prices are too much for yourself right now.


Greed and covering what are almost certainly license disappointment returns from Star Wars. Seriously, didn't even have a toy line from the last movie and Transformers which Hasbro owns has as much shelf presence in most stores I visit and its last movie was even longer ago.

Just feel annoyed I'm paying more cause Lou has been losing money at the track. (old reference)
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Comment by Sentinel_Primal Sep 23, 2020
I'll be honest, I can see the complaints about the extra $3 if you buy figures in batches. Once you hit 6 deluxes, that money could have bought a 7th deluxe, or at 3 deluxes, you could have bought a core class. But, I feel the need to point out that it's only an increase on the deluxes, which so far have been really solid figures. Plus, if the extra $3 had to go somewhere for the core class guys to get their weapons, I'm fine with it. I mean, the new Megatron supposedly comes with himself in gun mode as an accessory, Prime should have his rifle, Starscream has his Null Rays, and Rattrap has his gun. Given the fact that the previous Legends class guys had nothing since CW except for Brawn/Outback and Seaspray, if $3 extra dollars provides the core class boys their weapons, then fine.

Besides, Deluxes are the easiest to justify. Core class is half the size at $10, but at $13 you might as well save a bit longer and get a bigger toy (from a casual fan's POV), Voyagers at $33 would be the other decent argument, but that still runs the risk of people seeing them and saying it's not worth the price and might result in Voyagers shelfwarming, and I feel leader class is the obvious no go due to the fact that shelves are still flooded with Siege Shockwaves, and likely will be flooded with Doubledealers while Kingdom is out.
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Comment by optimeow Sep 23, 2020
FED's to blame for printing money and causing inflation. Worse is that the extra money is coming out from our pockets instead of into it!
Where is the low inflation if we get price hikes so often?

Another excuse for :HASBRO: is to match :TAKARATOMY: prices in Japan. Abenomics has caused retail prices to skyrocket more than double in the past 5 years. Those of us who import using sites like Amiami, HLJ and Amazon Japan will know :-(
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Comment by ZeroWolf Sep 23, 2020
Deadput wrote:Just about everything is going up in price it's not just Transformers, it's not simply a matter of greed from the company this is just the reality we live in where concepts like inflation are in place.

If you don't like the prices now it sure ain't going to be better 5 years from now, so I'd say it's about time for anyone to jump out of collecting if the prices are too much for yourself right now.

This^
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Comment by blackeyedprime Sep 23, 2020
Waiting for the £15 plus price tag on the $10 cores :( would love for the days of kenner and toybiz prices to come back, but it ain't happening.
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Comment by ZeroWolf Sep 23, 2020
blackeyedprime wrote:Waiting for the £15 plus price tag on the $10 cores :( would love for the days of kenner and toybiz prices to come back, but it ain't happening.

Nope, what would really offset these prices rises is if the wages increased along side them so they were still affordable. You'd still get the talk of "these were cheaper in my day" but then we have to remember that wages were a lot less as well. In some cases the money we paid on Deluxes back then is roughly the same as what we spend now, thanks to inflation and rising material costs.
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Comment by Gauntlet101010 Sep 23, 2020
The prices going up hurts a bit more now because the mainline is producing things I want all at the same time. Before it took ages to build the entire G1 case. I'm not rebuying everyone, but even without that everything's basically coming out all at once.

It seems odd to complain about getting MOAR, but .... here we are.
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Comment by blackeyedprime Sep 23, 2020
Gauntlet101010 wrote:The prices going up hurts a bit more now because the mainline is producing things I want all at the same time. Before it took ages to build the entire G1 case. I'm not rebuying everyone, but even without that everything's basically coming out all at once.

It seems odd to complain about getting MOAR, but .... here we are.


Yep especially when by the time Kingdom concludes we are probably at double the amount of figures released for the entire Armada-Cybertron time line.
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Comment by -Kanrabat- Sep 23, 2020
Walmart had already increased the prices of the SS voyagers and leaders by 5$ since months ago. But only Walmart.
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