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Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow

Posted by Va'al Sep 8, 2016 at 4:04am CDT 59,875 views
There are more rumblings in the Transformers rumour network, as fellow fansite TFW2005's Mr Chaos finds more listings for potential upcoming figures. Today's offering are two leader class figures for the Titans Return line, supposedly to arrive after Six Shot: Overlord and Sky Shadow!

Two new product listings from my friend. While his work doesn't carry Leader figures for Titans return yet (they are still stuck with Combiner Wars stuff) I was able to get him a UPC for Titans Return and he got me two listings: Leader Class Overlord (C2388) and Leader Class Sky Shadow (C1104)

Overlord was pretty much expected but Sky Shadow was a surprise. As always I have no clue what the figures look like, only that they are listed to come after Sixshot.


We had been teased something of the Overlord kind at BotCon, as you can see from the images below, and we may have heard something about the other Phase Sixer in the past, but what do you make of this new info? Speculate and discuss away in the Energon Pub!

Transformers News: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow

Transformers News: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow

Transformers News: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow

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Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Emerje Sep 8, 2016
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
RodimusRex wrote:I'd wager a Sustreaker Headmaster, along with Sideways and Animated Headmaster are all characters that would be a great fit for this line that I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro never even considered.

I agree very much with all of what you said. There are some characters who fit this line so well that maybe haven't even been considered


Let's give them the benefit of the doubt, OK? They've already proven their interest in obscure Headmaster characters like Lione, I'm sure they're as aware of their options as we are.

Emerje
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Comment by Emerje Sep 8, 2016
Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!


PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Kurona Sep 8, 2016
WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Randomhero Sep 8, 2016
Kurona wrote:WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.


As much as I love black shadow and am stoked it does make me think "maybe it's a redeco of sixshot in black shadows colors" wouldn't complain but I could see it
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Kurona Sep 8, 2016
Randomhero wrote:
Kurona wrote:WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.


As much as I love black shadow and am stoked it does make me think "maybe it's a redeco of sixshot in black shadows colors" wouldn't complain but I could see it

I highly doubt that, especially due to rumours we're getting a Quickswitch redeco of Sixshot.
And heck, if they really wanted to go the obscure Victory character redeco of Sixshot route... http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Greatshot_(Victory)
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Emerje Sep 8, 2016
Randomhero wrote:
Kurona wrote:WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.


As much as I love black shadow and am stoked it does make me think "maybe it's a redeco of sixshot in black shadows colors" wouldn't complain but I could see it

I can't really see that. It's one thing to do Soundwave right after Blaster since there's a history there and a good deal of remolding, plus they're on different sides, but a straight repaint of Six Shot as another Decepticon in the following wave for no reason other than to reuse the mold is highly unlikely. Especially when there's already rumor of the mold being used for Quickswitch.

Emerje
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Comment by Randomhero Sep 8, 2016
Emerje wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Kurona wrote:WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.


As much as I love black shadow and am stoked it does make me think "maybe it's a redeco of sixshot in black shadows colors" wouldn't complain but I could see it

I can't really see that. It's one thing to do Soundwave right after Blaster since there's a history there and a good deal of remolding, plus they're on different sides, but a straight repaint of Six Shot as another Decepticon in the following wave for no reason other than to reuse the mold is highly unlikely. Especially when there's already rumor of the mold being used for Quickswitch.

Emerje



I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...

Image

It'd be glorious and amazing :lol:
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Carnivius_Prime Sep 8, 2016
Emerje wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!


PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje



I want a Voyager Thunderwing. Deluxe was too small... Leader is far too big.
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by RAR Sep 8, 2016
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Hate to ask, are you sure? The video review I saw led me to believe that the bits just came apart


Only if they have broken the toy plugging in the Engine block does release the tank halves for sure... but you can push the buttons manually - so perhaps that is what they did.
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Emerje Sep 8, 2016
Randomhero wrote:I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...

Image

It'd be glorious and amazing :lol:


One of my favorite Fuzors in Leader class? I'd buy that for sure.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!


PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje



I want a Voyager Thunderwing. Deluxe was too small... Leader is far too big.


He's usually shown in the comics as larger than average, especially if this ends up being done IDW-style where he's massive, nearly combiner size.

Speaking of IDW, anyone notice that the last three mentioned Leader class figures are part of Megatron's "Warriors Elite"? Bring on Heretech and Killmaster! But more importantly they are also "Point One Percenters" with unique sparks. Six Shot, Sky Shadow, and Overlord are all .1%ers, as well as recent releases like Fortress Maximus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus, and Shockwave. Strange coincidence, right? And only Shockwave isn't a Leader or larger. Maybe Grimlock, Scorponok, and Tarn could be coming soon as well?

Emerje
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Comment by Kurona Sep 8, 2016
Emerje wrote:Speaking of IDW, anyone notice that the last three mentioned Leader class figures are part of Megatron's "Warriors Elite"? Bring on Heretech and Killmaster! But more importantly they are also "Point One Percenters" with unique sparks. Six Shot, Sky Shadow, and Overlord are all .1%ers, as well as recent releases like Fortress Maximus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus, and Shockwave. Strange coincidence, right? And only Shockwave isn't a Leader or larger. Maybe Grimlock, Scorponok, and Tarn could be coming soon as well?

Emerje

A bit more notably than that; Overlord, Sixshot and Sky/Black Shadow were the three Six-Phasers in IDW.
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Comment by MrBlack Sep 8, 2016
Emerje wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...

Image

It'd be glorious and amazing :lol:


One of my favorite Fuzors in Leader class? I'd buy that for sure.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!


PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje



I want a Voyager Thunderwing. Deluxe was too small... Leader is far too big.


He's usually shown in the comics as larger than average, especially if this ends up being done IDW-style where he's massive, nearly combiner size.

Speaking of IDW, anyone notice that the last three mentioned Leader class figures are part of Megatron's "Warriors Elite"? Bring on Heretech and Killmaster! But more importantly they are also "Point One Percenters" with unique sparks. Six Shot, Sky Shadow, and Overlord are all .1%ers, as well as recent releases like Fortress Maximus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus, and Shockwave. Strange coincidence, right? And only Shockwave isn't a Leader or larger. Maybe Grimlock, Scorponok, and Tarn could be coming soon as well?

Emerje

I think that's probably just because a lot of notable characters in the IDW-verse are point one percenters. I could see a new Grimlock coming eventually, although we've already seen his head in this line (as Clobber). Scorponok is on Hasbro's radar, but as a Titan, and we won't be seeing him soon as the next Titan release will be Trypticon.

Tarn has gotten a lot of fan reaction, but I doubt he'll get a toy release unless some other creator picks the character up. He is a new character that has come and gone in the IDW comics, so I don't see him appearing unless a good remold comes up late in a line.

Heretech and Killmaster are barely characters, and we've only actually seen each of them once or twice. We don't even know what they turn into!
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Comment by Randomhero Sep 8, 2016
MrBlack wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Randomhero wrote:I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...

Image

It'd be glorious and amazing :lol:


One of my favorite Fuzors in Leader class? I'd buy that for sure.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!


PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje



I want a Voyager Thunderwing. Deluxe was too small... Leader is far too big.


He's usually shown in the comics as larger than average, especially if this ends up being done IDW-style where he's massive, nearly combiner size.

Speaking of IDW, anyone notice that the last three mentioned Leader class figures are part of Megatron's "Warriors Elite"? Bring on Heretech and Killmaster! But more importantly they are also "Point One Percenters" with unique sparks. Six Shot, Sky Shadow, and Overlord are all .1%ers, as well as recent releases like Fortress Maximus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus, and Shockwave. Strange coincidence, right? And only Shockwave isn't a Leader or larger. Maybe Grimlock, Scorponok, and Tarn could be coming soon as well?

Emerje

I think that's probably just because a lot of notable characters in the IDW-verse are point one percenters. I could see a new Grimlock coming eventually, although we've already seen his head in this line (as Clobber). Scorponok is on Hasbro's radar, but as a Titan, and we won't be seeing him soon as the next Titan release will be Trypticon.

Tarn has gotten a lot of fan reaction, but I doubt he'll get a toy release unless some other creator picks the character up. He is a new character that has come and gone in the IDW comics, so I don't see him appearing unless a good remold comes up late in a line.

Heretech and Killmaster are barely characters, and we've only actually seen each of them once or twice. We don't even know what they turn into!


Grimlock is a unique case. Even after the last movie Hasbro and Takara still don't wanna Dinobots for whatever reason. Yeah we got clobber and the swoop Titan masters but that's it. I don't see a new generations grimlock on the horizon.

I don't see Tarn ever happening. Just don't.

As for scorponok...well I was playing around with my fort max this weekend and saw a photo that was getting blown up on Twitter and I think I found out how we're getting Titan scorponok.

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https://twitter.com/matty0984/status/772272229161639936

Change the hands to punchers, lose the tower, add a tail, change the ram to a helmet and MAYBE add some Scorpion legs to the feet. There's Titan class scorponok.
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by MemphisR56 Sep 8, 2016
I understand the chances of it happening are slim to nil,

but deep in my heart, I'm hoping that along with Overlord being in that leader wave being 2 figures that combine to form a single one, that SkyShadow is just the name they're using for the combined mode of Darkwing & Dreadwind now, and it's a masterstroke 2 pack set of those good old chaps Hydra and Buster from Masterforce. They did come in a 2pack set in japan, i believe. :lol:
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Noideaforaname Sep 8, 2016
Randomhero wrote:I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...

Image

It'd be glorious and amazing :lol:

!!!!
Sky Shadow was a land animal and a sky animal combined into one. Overlord is a land vehicle and a sky vehicle that combine for robot mode at least (I'm not sure what that one image is implying). Maybe possibly there's some kind of wacky repaint, please Hasbro! :PRAY: BW Sky Shadow is already perfection, but I'd be ALL OVER a "pre-war" version.


But I'm expecting just another use of that Seeker mold that's shelfwarming as we speak...
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal Sep 8, 2016
I'm liking what I'm hearing. I would buy both Overlord and Sky Shadow!
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Comment by william-james88 Sep 8, 2016
Emerje wrote: and Tarn could be coming soon as well?


Just curious, is there a precedent for making a toy of a comic only character that is no longer in the comics? Scrounge I guess, but he wasnt released on his own and was just a redeco with a new head and an enlarged hole.

I would like Tarn but he is so damn niche for a toy of his class (voyager?) that I dont know f Hasbro would do it.

Anyways, about Skyshadow, there is no doubt this will be a new mold (not a redeco of Sixshot who is getting redeco'd already) and will get a redeco as Thunderwing. While I am not fond of redecos for the hell of em, this one makes pefect sense and i dont mind it one bit. Hasbro said their reuse of modes would be smarter for Titans Return and this is a good example of that.

However, him being a pretender turned into a figure with a titan master means that the next phase wont be a redo of pretenders.

Also this would assume that we have at least the following leaders coming out next year at retail:

Sixshot, Skyshadow, Overlord and Thunderwing (with Delta Magnus and Quickswitch being part of boxsets).

Dont know if we will get another one since we only got 4 new leaders this year:
Skywarp, Powermaster Prime, Blaster and Soundwave
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Kurona Sep 8, 2016
Yeah, if anyone was expecting the next line to be a Pretender-based line - which, honestly, didn't sound viable in the first place - then if this is true then there's no way they're gonna do it. In terms of Pretenders you don't have many characters people remember - Bludgeon, Thunderwing, Carnivac and Catilla and that's really about it. You'd need some star power behind a gimmick and line of characters this obscure and to take away arguably the most prominent Pretender besides Bludgeon from the potential line would just not make sense.

Also, much as the character and design is great; I don't expect Tarn to ever happen because, well...

Image

Not exactly easy to sell that guy to the kiddies
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Randomhero Sep 8, 2016
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote: and Tarn could be coming soon as well?


Just curious, is there a precedent for making a toy of a comic only character that is no longer in the comics? Scrounge I guess, but he wasnt released on his own and was just a redeco with a new head and an enlarged hole.

I would like Tarn but he is so damn niche for a toy of his class (voyager?) that I dont know f Hasbro would do it.

Anyways, about Skyshadow, there is no doubt this will be a new mold (not a redeco of Sixshot who is getting redeco'd already) and will get a redeco as Thunderwing. While I am not fond of redecos for the hell of em, this one makes pefect sense and i dont mind it one bit. Hasbro said their reuse of modes would be smarter for Titans Return and this is a good example of that.

However, him being a pretender turned into a figure with a titan master means that the next phase wont be a redo of pretenders.

Also this would assume that we have at least the following leaders coming out next year at retail:

Sixshot, Skyshadow, Overlord and Thunderwing (with Delta Magnus and Quickswitch being part of boxsets).

Dont know if we will get another one since we only got 4 new leaders this year:
Skywarp, Powermaster Prime, Blaster and Soundwave


Straxus got a toy in 2010
Re: Rumours: Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Overlord and Sky Shadow (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Sep 8, 2016
Voyager would be best for a Marvel or Dreamwave Armada Thunderwing, while Leader would work for an IDW Thunderwing.

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, is there a precedent for making a toy of a comic only character that is no longer in the comics?
Generations Straxus Darkmount. Released to mass retail by Hasbro in 2010, never appeared in the IDW comics again after 2008 (and was only ever a bit character in there back then anyway).
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