Sneak Peek (Part 2) at Generations Devastator from Nuremberg Toy Fair

*Looks at bank acount.*

Damn it.

megatronus wrote:I feel fairly validated about selling my Hercules - I shipped him out to my buyer today.

LONG LIVE DEVASTATOR!!!

The funny thing here is that I may be looking for a Hercules down the road.


We'll see.

Robogeek1973 wrote:Well I'm bummed then if the forearms aren't part of the individual bots, because this is a no purchase for me if that's the case.

There's no reason why Bonecrusher and Scavenger can't have legs that fold out into forearms for limb mode, so I'm holding out hope that the forearms are indeed part of the arm bots somehow.

Why cant hasbro just be doing this to play up the G1 homage? The other combiner war toys, just like their g1 counterparts, didnt include the feet and hands as part of the robots. So why did anyone expect anything different with devastator? This is a just a bigger more articulated and detailed version of the G1 toy, same for the other combiners. But nothing more than that.

william-james88 wrote:

Robogeek1973 wrote:Well I'm bummed then if the forearms aren't part of the individual bots, because this is a no purchase for me if that's the case.

There's no reason why Bonecrusher and Scavenger can't have legs that fold out into forearms for limb mode, so I'm holding out hope that the forearms are indeed part of the arm bots somehow.

Why cant hasbro just be doing this to play up the G1 homage? The other combiner war toys, just like their g1 counterparts, didnt include the feet and hands as part of the robots. So why did anyone expect anything different with devastator? This is a just a bigger more articulated and detailed version of the G1 toy, same for the other combiners. But nothing more than that.

I was fully expecting the hands to be removable like the other CW bots, but the forearms being removable is just unnecessary. It would have been child's play to design the treads to become the forearm in combined mode with the knowledge of today's designers.

Again, until I see good pics, I still hold out hope that the forearms are part of the individual bot modes.

I honestly think a proper Devastator, along with the recent Combiner Wars and MP releases is really going to diminish the 3rd party market. I already see a lot of people selling off their stuff fairly cheaply. I don't think it will completely vanish, I think the diehards will hang in there. However, I think we'll see less total figures on the 3rd party market pretty soon. Just my feeling.

william-james88 wrote:

Robogeek1973 wrote:Well I'm bummed then if the forearms aren't part of the individual bots, because this is a no purchase for me if that's the case.

There's no reason why Bonecrusher and Scavenger can't have legs that fold out into forearms for limb mode, so I'm holding out hope that the forearms are indeed part of the arm bots somehow.

Why cant hasbro just be doing this to play up the G1 homage? The other combiner war toys, just like their g1 counterparts, didnt include the feet and hands as part of the robots. So why did anyone expect anything different with devastator? This is a just a bigger more articulated and detailed version of the G1 toy, same for the other combiners. But nothing more than that.

i think the disappointment is from the lack of forearm integration. if you look at hercules (and i think giant?) the legs of the bots (vehicle treads) cleverly become the forearms. but personally ive never had hard feelings towards parts-forming.

Isnt that the same god damn guy standing in the way in the first photo ? Why didnt the photographer just delete the first shot and post this one from the get go ? Whats next ? A 3rd photo reveal of his left arm when the guy moves again ? Theyre playing stupid funpub style games with the pics. Just give us the high res pic and be done with it already.

Rated X wrote:If mixmaster doesnt have a purple barrel, we riot !!!

It looks like you won't need to riot, Rated X!!!

Robogeek1973 wrote:I suppose if this guy DOES have forearms that come off, I wouldn't be as down on them if they at least became weapons or something like the other CW bots.

Or like the original G1 Constructicons ...

Robogeek1973 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Robogeek1973 wrote:Well I'm bummed then if the forearms aren't part of the individual bots, because this is a no purchase for me if that's the case.

There's no reason why Bonecrusher and Scavenger can't have legs that fold out into forearms for limb mode, so I'm holding out hope that the forearms are indeed part of the arm bots somehow.

Why cant hasbro just be doing this to play up the G1 homage? The other combiner war toys, just like their g1 counterparts, didnt include the feet and hands as part of the robots. So why did anyone expect anything different with devastator? This is a just a bigger more articulated and detailed version of the G1 toy, same for the other combiners. But nothing more than that.

i think the disappointment is from the lack of forearm integration. if you look at hercules (and i think giant?) the legs of the bots (vehicle treads) cleverly become the forearms. but personally ive never had hard feelings towards parts-forming.

Exactly, Hercules got it right.

Giant had his forearms partsform, but I believe you can at least DO something with them other than just set them aside.

I suppose if this guy DOES have forearms that come off, I wouldn't be as down on them if they at least became weapons or something like the other CW bots.

There's another factor to consider here: The budget. 3rd party toys have done so much with their goods, but they often do so because of the insane amount of money they put into those things. It isn't just the limited production that makes those items so expensive, it's also because they're very expensive to make. Hasbro's obviously going to be more economic with their products and use a much lower budget than what third parties use. If that means having to go the G1 route of lacking the kind of forearm integration that Hercules has, then there's not much to be done about it. Best we can hope for if that is the case is that the forearms aren't rendered just useless chunks of kibble when not in the combiner mode and that there's some use to be had of them for the individual figures, like if they become weapons for them like the hands/feet do for the Aerialbots and Stunticons.