Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed

Posted by Kurona May 10, 2017 at 8:51am CDT 26,202 views

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Just yesterday we were made aware of listings for new Takara Legends products, most of which made sense and were simply their own releases of Hasbro's Titans Return toys; but one name in particular stood out - Kickback's Titan Master partner Crowbar, of which there was no clear indication of who they were.

Well, thanks to fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade once again as he's brought in a more accurate translation of the listing - rather than 'Crowbar', the Titan Master is in fact 'Clouder', the Japanese counterpart to Doubledealer and a character who starred in Masterforce alongside Ginrai, Overlord and all the rest. While we still don't have pictures so we don't know which pre-existing Hasbro head (if any) he'll be using, this nonetheless clears up some previous confusion. Check out Sabrblade's post below and discuss and speculate in the forums!

Sabrblade wrote:Alrighty! Now we got some real clarification on the Katakana for these figures thanks to Loopaza Mega Store.

LG47 is Kickback & CLOUDER, not Crowbar.

LG48 is Gong & Repug, so Repugnus is indeed keeping his original Japanese name.

And LG49 is still Targetmaster Triggerhappy.

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Re: Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed (view post)

Comment by william-james88 May 10, 2017

Sabrblade wrote:Alrighty! Now we got some real clarification on the Katakana for these figures thanks to Loopaza Mega Store.

LG47 is Kickback & CLOUDER, not Crowbar.

LG48 is Gong & Repug, so Repugnus is indeed keeping his original Japanese name.

And LG49 is still Targetmaster Triggerhappy.

Any clue what the other 2 listings are?

Re: Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed (view post)

Comment by Carnivius_Prime May 10, 2017

Was intrigued when I thought it was a full Titans figure of Doubledealer (did not like that one they did from the already faily lousy generations voyager Blitzwing a few years ago) but it's just a head? Dang.

Re: Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed (view post)

Comment by Kurona May 10, 2017

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Was intrigued when I thought it was a full Titans figure of Doubledealer (did not like that one they did from the already faily lousy generations voyager Blitzwing a few years ago) but it's just a head? Dang.

It would be pretty awesome. Just add it to the list of Triple Changer -masters that Titans Return never got around to.

//Plays sad violin for the Horrocons

Re: Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed (view post)

Comment by Randomhero May 10, 2017

I wondered if it was Clouder but I couldn't imagine which one would be used because none scream clouder. Well...maybe the Swoop/Ptero one. It's close enough

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Comment by Randomhero May 10, 2017

Kurona wrote:You could get a fairly convincing Clouder out of Chasm depending on your paint applications, honestly. It's a pretty clever way for Takara to repurpose it for their markets, especially when Clouder was part of the Masterforce gang and they didn't release the double Targetmasters.

That's toy accuracy and come on, we're talking Takara

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Comment by Randomhero May 10, 2017

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Comment by Dagon May 10, 2017

I read this story four times before I realized that there isn't really an actual Clouder figure coming, but rather a Clouder-themed head.

Right?

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Comment by william-james88 May 10, 2017

Dagon wrote:I read this story four times before I realized that there isn't really an actual Clouder figure coming, but rather a Clouder-themed head.

Right?

Maybe. This is all based on a name and it can still mean anything.

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Comment by Randomhero May 10, 2017

william-james88 wrote:
Dagon wrote:I read this story four times before I realized that there isn't really an actual Clouder figure coming, but rather a Clouder-themed head.

Right?

Maybe. This is all based on a name and it can still mean anything.

Other Wilder Clouder was the last of the Of those dudes that survived and lost their transtectors

Re: Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed (view post)

Comment by william-james88 May 10, 2017

Loopaza replied to me directly when I asked for an english translation, here is what they said:

We received some details of the coming up of Takaratomy Transformers news.

Coming in September, there will be 2 reissue of the Disney Label - Mickey Mouse both the standard and Black & White Trailer.

The LG series will continue in October and there is:

LG47 Kickback & Crowder, Kickback of course is the insecticon and Crowder is the Japanese name of Doubledealer? (properly just a headmaster)

LG48 Gong & Repack, Gong is the Japanese name of Brown and Repack is Repugnus

LG49 Target Master Trigger Happy, it will be the Trigger Happy with a Targetmaster.

Re: Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed (view post)

Comment by Kurona May 10, 2017

It is a Titan Master, as the inclusion with a legends-class figure and the price point indicates.

Re: Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed (view post)

Comment by kurthy May 10, 2017

I got really excited when I saw the article, then I read it.
:-(

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Comment by Wolfman Jake May 10, 2017

william-james88 wrote:Loopaza replied to me directly when I asked for an english translation, here is what they said:

LG48 Gong & Repack, Gong is the Japanese name of Brown and Repack is Repugnus

Confirmed! Brawn will have a new UPS truck deco for the Takara-Tomy Transformers Legends line! :lol:

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Comment by thebobkat May 10, 2017

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Alrighty! Now we got some real clarification on the Katakana for these figures thanks to Loopaza Mega Store.

LG47 is Kickback & CLOUDER, not Crowbar.

LG48 is Gong & Repug, so Repugnus is indeed keeping his original Japanese name.

And LG49 is still Targetmaster Triggerhappy.

Any clue what the other 2 listings are?

The other 2 listings say: "Disney Label Mickey Mouse Trailer Standard" and "Disney Label Mickey Mouse Trailer Monochrome".

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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat May 10, 2017

Hah, I knew it was a misreading. Still, quite a departure from クロウバー Kuroubā to クラウダー Kuraudā. I wonder what mold they'll use for him.

You know, I have a feeling Clouder (aka Doubledealer) is an unrevealed face for one of the original molds, like how Sweeps was. Which means it could be from:

- Apeface
- Brawn
- Fangry
- Loudmouth
- Nightbeat
- Ptero

Keep in mind that's a Hasbro release potential, thus has a vehicle that may match either mode (missile carrier or vulture).

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Comment by william-james88 May 10, 2017

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Keep in mind that's a Hasbro release potential, thus has a vehicle that may match either mode (missile carrier or vulture).

Or the titan master only figure to come with the next 2 box sets.

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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat May 10, 2017

william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Keep in mind that's a Hasbro release potential, thus has a vehicle that may match either mode (missile carrier or vulture).

Or the titan master only figure to come with the next 2 box sets.

That, no. Rodimus Prime and Thunderwing have the same retooled chest design, which makes me suspect they're gang-molded with the new face plates. Ergo, expect the next two to have the same chests as well. Plus, they're die cast, so I don't see TakaraTomy using them for a regular release.

And another thing to ponder: what "suit" will he use? The Cybertron one (Knok):

or the Destron one (Skar):

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Comment by gothsaurus May 10, 2017

quick digibash for a grin. I think I might be okay with this. Eyes are slightly smaller, but that's not much of a complaint. Shape of helmet, vents, etc. All pretty good match for a repaint.

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Comment by Easy Tiger May 10, 2017

gothsaurus wrote:quick digibash for a grin. I think I might be okay with this. Eyes are slightly smaller, but that's not much of a complaint. Shape of helmet, vents, etc. All pretty good match for a repaint.

If they painted the shoulder/forearms grey (and we have precedent for paint here), that could be pretty convincing. Although, no weird cheek lines - and given the minor differences in the Mindwipe head, I suspect that alone would warrant a retool.

Re: Takara Legends Titan Master Clouder (Doubledealer) confirmed (view post)

Comment by william-james88 May 10, 2017

Looking at that sweep head they are already releasing, it seems takara has no aversion for new facesculpts for the titan mastet that comes with their legends figures.

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