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[Kurona]

Must admit, my biggest worry is that Triggerhappy will look a bit ech. Not sure how his animation model looked, but TR's colours are just so perfect that I'm scared Takara won't be able to match it never mind do better.

[Randomhero]

Must admit, my biggest worry is that Triggerhappy will look a bit ech. Not sure how his animation model looked, but TR's colours are just so perfect that I'm scared Takara won't be able to match it never mind do better.

Then google triggerhappy headmasters cartoon. Spoiler alert: he looks just like his toy and rebirth. Their isn't much to change unless they retool the hands to clip the targetmaster like I mentioned.

[Randomhero]

It will probably be something like United Drift where the colors are just richer

[Emerje]

I'm thinking Crowbar might be one of Hasbro's Titan Masters used with the Deluxe repaints like Chasm (Quake) or Gatorface (Krok) since those guys didn't get G1 releases in Japan and it would be a good opportunity to repurpose their heads. Gatorface repainted to look like he has a hard hat on would be pretty funny and fitting for Legends.


Emerje

[Rated X]

I read the header on this article that reads Brawn, only to find out it was a error meant to say Repugnus. Fake news lol. Either way im excited about Takara Triggerhappy and his targetmaster. Ill be skipping Takara Kickback and hope for an insecticon 3 pack with a unified paint sceme.

[Sabrblade]

I read the header on this article that reads Brawn, only to find out it was a error meant to say Repugnus. Fake news lol.

How do you mean? It's a two-pack of Brawn and Repugnus.

[Rated X]

I read the header on this article that reads Brawn, only to find out it was a error meant to say Repugnus. Fake news lol.

How do you mean? It's a two-pack of Brawn and Repugnus.

Well im assuming the Legends line will follow the path of Wheelie, Shockwave, Rewind, Condor, and Jaguar and only come with a titan master head. (No vehicle) So im guessing "Gong" is going to be the Japanese repaint of one of the many titan master heads that Hasbro released. If not, I stand corrected. But I dont see any evidence of "Gong" being Brawn. Especially since at BBTS and TFsource the $19.99 price point is consistant with previous legends releases that only come with a titan head. Takara isnt known for giving you more without upping the price. Could "Crobar" be Fangry? Maybe... But it just doesnt make sense for Takara to release the repugnus head without the repugnus body that was specifically made for it. But the price just dont seem right for that. My Guess is takara decided to release one figure from each scale. Triggerhappy as the deluxe, Kickback as the legends, and repugnus as the titan scale. I could be wrong. But if im right, then "gong" is nothing more than a name for the titan head that comes with the repugnus body. If the price was say $24.99, maybe than ill believe you get a legends scale figure, a vehicle, and a titan master head all in one set. Remember how scourge and blurr were 5 bucks less than the traditional headmasters that came with a vehicle?

[Prime Target]

yayyyy new Blowpipe! I look forward to seeing what they're gonna do with Kickbakc's and Brawn's deco and if they include anything new in them

[Randomhero]

I'm thinking Crowbar might be one of Hasbro's Titan Masters used with the Deluxe repaints like Chasm (Quake) or Gatorface (Krok) since those guys didn't get G1 releases in Japan and it would be a good opportunity to repurpose their heads. Gatorface repainted to look like he has a hard hat on would be pretty funny and fitting for Legends.


Emerje

The problem with that is Takara doesn't do repaints unless it's an 84-86 character and they also won't do characters they have no atatchments to unless it's a real odd one. That's why this crowbar character is such an oddity but he's probably gonna be some obscure character that only Takara knows and was never made into a toy but had some protype or design from the 80s


I'll be shocked if they even do topspin and twintwist. They never got released in Japan and they have zero Japanese fiction. Those are two things that stop certain characters from Takara releasing toys of. I'm amazed they even did Whirl and Roadbuster but they ended up making up their own fiction for them and shoehorning Tankor in and homaging him to a toy no one knew about. Japan is odd.

[Sabrblade]

I read the header on this article that reads Brawn, only to find out it was a error meant to say Repugnus. Fake news lol.

How do you mean? It's a two-pack of Brawn and Repugnus.

Well im assuming the Legends line will follow the path of Wheelie, Shockwave, Rewind, Condor, and Jaguar and only come with a titan master head. (No vehicle) So im guessing "Gong" is going to be the Japanese repaint of one of the many titan master heads that Hasbro released. If not, I stand corrected. But I dont see any evidence of "Gong" being Brawn.

"Gong" is Brawn's Japanese name. So this set would be the Legends class Brawn with the Titan Master head of Repugnus.

But it just doesnt make sense for Takara to release the repugnus head without the repugnus body that was specifically made for it.

That's what Takara does, though. They released Apeface without his gorilla vehicle (which they instead gave to Weirdwolf) and will most likely do the same for Repugnus, omitting his monster vehicle while packing just his head with Legends class Brawn.

[Sabrblade]

Okay, guys, thanks to Snakas, we now have the Katakana for the three new items and LG47 is キックバック＆クロバー.

キックバック ("Kikkubakku") is definitely "Kickback", but クロバー ("Kurobā") wouldn't equate to "Crowbar" due to the ロ ("ro") vowel being a short length vowel. For it to be "Crowbar", the ロ ("ro") would have to instead be an extended ロー ("rō") vowel (i.e. - クローバー "Kurōbā"). Therefore, the name can't be "Crowbar" after all.

So what could it be? Well, クロバー ("Kurobā") can't equate to "Clover", but we can probably rule that out as not it. Snakas, however, suggests that it could instead be "Clobber", the Titan Master version of Grimlock.

Though, Japan already got the Clobber mold as Grimlock in the Headmasters 6-pack from before, so it'd be weird for them to get it again as the same character. Then again, that Grimlock did have a toy-accurate red visor instead of a show-accurate blue visor, so this could be a second chance for Japan to get a blue-visored version. Or, it could be a brand new guy named "Clobber" who isn't Grimlock but a brand new character. And possibly a Decepticon at that since it does come with Kickback, after all.

At the very least, we know now that the "Crowbar" name isn't phonetically accurate to クロバー ("Kurobā").

[Kurona]

But it just doesnt make sense for Takara to release the repugnus head without the repugnus body that was specifically made for it. But the price just dont seem right for that.

Repugnus was released as an individual Titan Master; he didn't have a body made for him. You might be thinking of his fellow Monsterbot Twinferno, who was released as a full Deluxe.

[Randomhero]

But it just doesnt make sense for Takara to release the repugnus head without the repugnus body that was specifically made for it. But the price just dont seem right for that.

Repugnus was released as an individual Titan Master; he didn't have a body made for him. You might be thinking of his fellow Monsterbot Twinferno, who was released as a full Deluxe.

I think he's referring to the Hasbro Legends body the Titans Return one came with. Like the body fangry came with

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Okay, guys, thanks to Snakas, we now have the Katakana for the three new items and LG47 is キックバック＆クロバー.

キックバック ("Kikkubakku") is definitely "Kickback", but クロバー ("Kurobā") wouldn't equate to "Crowbar" due to the ロ ("ro") vowel being a short length vowel. For it to be "Crowbar", the ロ ("ro") would have to instead be an extended ロー ("rō") vowel (i.e. - クローバー "Kurōbā"). Therefore, the name can't be "Crowbar" after all.

So what could it be? Well, クロバー ("Kurobā") can't equate to "Clover", but we can probably rule that out as not it. Snakas, however, suggests that it could instead be "Clobber", the Titan Master version of Grimlock.

Though, Japan already got the Clobber mold as Grimlock in the Headmasters 6-pack from before, so it'd be weird for them to get it again as the same character. Then again, that Grimlock did have a toy-accurate red visor instead of a show-accurate blue visor, so this could be a second chance for Japan to get a blue-visored version. Or, it could be a brand new guy named "Clobber" who isn't Grimlock but a brand new character. And possibly a Decepticon at that since it does come with Kickback, after all.

At the very least, we know now that the "Crowbar" name isn't phonetically accurate to クロバー ("Kurobā").

One caveat: Their source is BBTS, so it's translated Japanese to English, and back to Japanese. Other sites have the Movie spelling クロウバー Kuroubā instead.

[Big Grim]

But they weren't headmasters in the cartoon like triggerhappy was. I could see it

Wait, Triggerhappy was a headmaster in Takara's story?

Sorry I meant Target Masters. I fixed my post

Ah, cool. I'm old. Easily confused.

[Sabrblade]

Alrighty! Now we got some real clarification on the Katakana for these figures thanks to Loopaza Mega Store.



LG47 is Kickback & CLOUDER, not Crowbar.

LG48 is Gong & Repug, so Repugnus is indeed keeping his original Japanese name.

And LG49 is still Targetmaster Triggerhappy.

[Emerje]

I'm thinking Crowbar might be one of Hasbro's Titan Masters used with the Deluxe repaints like Chasm (Quake) or Gatorface (Krok) since those guys didn't get G1 releases in Japan and it would be a good opportunity to repurpose their heads. Gatorface repainted to look like he has a hard hat on would be pretty funny and fitting for Legends.


Emerje

The problem with that is Takara doesn't do repaints unless it's an 84-86 character and they also won't do characters they have no atatchments to unless it's a real odd one. That's why this crowbar character is such an oddity but he's probably gonna be some obscure character that only Takara knows and was never made into a toy but had some protype or design from the 80s

I think you somehow misunderstood my post. I'm talking about just the Titan Masters, not the full deluxe figure itself, repurposed as entirely new characters. There's a shortage of individual Decepticon Titan Master class figures from Hasbro, if they plan to keep doing Legends class figures they'll have to be more creative with their Decepticon heads like they were with Sharkticon and Scourge.

So it's actually Clouder? That was unexpected. I wonder who the head will be repainted from? Chasm? Ramhorn? They're the only ones I can think of that kinda fit.

Emerje

[Kurona]

You could get a fairly convincing Clouder out of Chasm depending on your paint applications, honestly. It's a pretty clever way for Takara to repurpose it for their markets, especially when Clouder was part of the Masterforce gang and they didn't release the double Targetmasters.

[Kurona]

Just yesterday we were made aware of listings for new Takara Legends products, most of which made sense and were simply their own releases of Hasbro's Titans Return toys; but one name in particular stood out - Kickback's Titan Master partner Crowbar, of which there was no clear indication of who they were.

Well, thanks to fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade once again as he's brought in a more accurate translation of the listing - rather than 'Crowbar', the Titan Master is in fact 'Clouder', the Japanese counterpart to Doubledealer and a character who starred in Masterforce alongside Ginrai, Overlord and all the rest. While we still don't have pictures so we don't know which pre-existing Hasbro head (if any) he'll be using, this nonetheless clears up some previous confusion. Check out Sabrblade's post below and discuss and speculate in the forums!

Alrighty! Now we got some real clarification on the Katakana for these figures thanks to Loopaza Mega Store.



LG47 is Kickback & CLOUDER, not Crowbar.

LG48 is Gong & Repug, so Repugnus is indeed keeping his original Japanese name.

And LG49 is still Targetmaster Triggerhappy.

[william-james88]

Alrighty! Now we got some real clarification on the Katakana for these figures thanks to Loopaza Mega Store.



LG47 is Kickback & CLOUDER, not Crowbar.

LG48 is Gong & Repug, so Repugnus is indeed keeping his original Japanese name.

And LG49 is still Targetmaster Triggerhappy.

Any clue what the other 2 listings are?

[Carnivius_Prime]

Was intrigued when I thought it was a full Titans figure of Doubledealer (did not like that one they did from the already faily lousy generations voyager Blitzwing a few years ago) but it's just a head? Dang.

[Kurona]

Was intrigued when I thought it was a full Titans figure of Doubledealer (did not like that one they did from the already faily lousy generations voyager Blitzwing a few years ago) but it's just a head? Dang.

It would be pretty awesome. Just add it to the list of Triple Changer -masters that Titans Return never got around to.

//Plays sad violin for the Horrocons

[Randomhero]

I wondered if it was Clouder but I couldn't imagine which one would be used because none scream clouder. Well...maybe the Swoop/Ptero one. It's close enough

[Randomhero]

You could get a fairly convincing Clouder out of Chasm depending on your paint applications, honestly. It's a pretty clever way for Takara to repurpose it for their markets, especially when Clouder was part of the Masterforce gang and they didn't release the double Targetmasters.

That's toy accuracy and come on, we're talking Takara

[Randomhero]