Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Black Convoy and Armada Megatron Package Images
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jun 16, 2015
These would be soooooo worth it to keep sealed! 

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Comment by Heckfire
Jun 16, 2015
Dammit, I HAVE the OTFCC Scourge, and I STILL want this guy.
CURSE YOU, OBSESSIVE URGE TO HAVE ALL NEMESIS PRIMES!!
CURSE YOU, OBSESSIVE URGE TO HAVE ALL NEMESIS PRIMES!!
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This guy'll be my substitute for the TFCC version, (surprisingly) much cheaper
Armada Megatron just keeps looking better and better
Comment by prjkt
Jun 16, 2015
Heckfire wrote:Dammit, I HAVE the OTFCC Scourge, and I STILL want this guy.
CURSE YOU, OBSESSIVE URGE TO HAVE ALL NEMESIS PRIMES!!
This guy'll be my substitute for the TFCC version, (surprisingly) much cheaper
Armada Megatron just keeps looking better and better
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 16, 2015
Hey look, on the packaging and booklet. They're actually calling him "BLACK CONVOY" in English text instead of "Scourge". Previous Legends toys used the Hasbro names in English with the original Takara names in Japanese, but here, the original Takara name is used in both Japanese and English.
However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct
Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.
However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct

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Interesting.
Good spotting!
Comment by DedicatedGhostArt
Jun 16, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:Hey look, on the packaging. They're actually calling him "Black Convoy" in English text instead of "Scourge". Previous Legends toys used the Hasbro names in English with the original Takara names in Japanese, but here, the original Takara name is used in both Japanese and English.
Interesting.

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Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jun 16, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correctCombatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.
Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...
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for "Combatron". The Destronger insignia was
, which was not used for this toy. So they could have easily gotten away with claiming that "
= Decepticon"
Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 16, 2015
There's no "Predacons" in Car Robots either (only Cybertrons, Destrongers, and Combatrons), so nothing was stopping them from using "Decepticon" just as they used "Predacon". Besides, the insignia used isJelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correctCombatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.
Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...



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Comment by ScottyP
Jun 16, 2015
I want to like that Armada Megatron, but I just don't. Something's way off about it in my mind's eye, even more so than the Hasbro one. The waist feels too purple, but it's also possible I'm not remembering the show model correctly.
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Except that "Combatron" was treated more as a sub-group in the toyline: the box for CR Black Convoy still says "Destronger" on the side. And apparently because of the symbol used, they equated the Japanese Destronger with the US Predacons and therefore, through lack of an actual US name for the Combatron symbol (maybe Renegade?), they named Black Convoy (not Scourge) a Predacon too. Woops.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jun 16, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:There's no "Predacons" in Car Robots either (only Cybertrons, Destrongers, and Combatrons), so nothing was stopping them from using "Decepticon" just as they used "Predacon". Besides, the insignia used isJelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correctCombatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.
Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...for "Combatron". The Destronger insignia was
, which was not used for this toy. So they could have easily gotten away with claiming that "
= Decepticon"
Except that "Combatron" was treated more as a sub-group in the toyline: the box for CR Black Convoy still says "Destronger" on the side. And apparently because of the symbol used, they equated the Japanese Destronger with the US Predacons and therefore, through lack of an actual US name for the Combatron symbol (maybe Renegade?), they named Black Convoy (not Scourge) a Predacon too. Woops.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 16, 2015
For reference:ScottyP wrote:I want to like that Armada Megatron, but I just don't. Something's way off about it in my mind's eye, even more so than the Hasbro one. The waist feels too purple, but it's also possible I'm not remembering the show model correctly.

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Yea, I'm not seeing the issue. I really like this darker, more brooding deco, but that's just me.
Comment by megatronus
Jun 16, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:For reference:ScottyP wrote:I want to like that Armada Megatron, but I just don't. Something's way off about it in my mind's eye, even more so than the Hasbro one. The waist feels too purple, but it's also possible I'm not remembering the show model correctly.
Yea, I'm not seeing the issue. I really like this darker, more brooding deco, but that's just me.
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Comment by william-james88
Jun 16, 2015
What did they do to his ears?!
Also is it just me that loves it when Jelze and Sabr are bouncing TF knowledge off eachother? It's awesome.
Also is it just me that loves it when Jelze and Sabr are bouncing TF knowledge off eachother? It's awesome.
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Comment by ScottyP
Jun 16, 2015
Had a couple minutes to go look back at the show's animation model. It's the amount of purple on the chest of this Takara one that's bugging me. Entirely too much. I daresay the Hasbro one is closer to "correct", especially given that neither version did the two-toned "ears" properly.
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Yea, the purple areas of the upper chest should have been black. Also, yes, the ears should have some orange, but if I had to choose just one of the colors, I think I prefer the complete grey over complete orange.
At any rate, the Hasbro Armada Megatron is quite nice (if clearance-bound)... but this one is just too tempting for me to pass up.
Comment by megatronus
Jun 16, 2015
ScottyP wrote:Had a couple minutes to go look back at the show's animation model. It's the amount of purple on the chest of this Takara one that's bugging me. Entirely too much. I daresay the Hasbro one is closer to "correct", especially given that neither version did the two-toned "ears" properly.
Yea, the purple areas of the upper chest should have been black. Also, yes, the ears should have some orange, but if I had to choose just one of the colors, I think I prefer the complete grey over complete orange.
At any rate, the Hasbro Armada Megatron is quite nice (if clearance-bound)... but this one is just too tempting for me to pass up.
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Both versions didn't get the ear colors anime accurate right? Not so much into Armada that's why I ask.....
Comment by fenrir72
Jun 17, 2015
ScottyP wrote:Had a couple minutes to go look back at the show's animation model. It's the amount of purple on the chest of this Takara one that's bugging me. Entirely too much. I daresay the Hasbro one is closer to "correct", especially given that neither version did the two-toned "ears" properly.
Both versions didn't get the ear colors anime accurate right? Not so much into Armada that's why I ask.....
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Comment by ScottyP
Jun 17, 2015
Yeah, the ears are meant to be two-toned - gray on the interior part closer to his head (ala the Takara release) and orange on the edges (like the Hasbro one). They're both just solid colors instead. Adding to the annoyance is that both the original Armada and Micron Legend toys got this part "right"!fenrir72 wrote:ScottyP wrote:Had a couple minutes to go look back at the show's animation model. It's the amount of purple on the chest of this Takara one that's bugging me. Entirely too much. I daresay the Hasbro one is closer to "correct", especially given that neither version did the two-toned "ears" properly.
Both versions didn't get the ear colors anime accurate right? Not so much into Armada that's why I ask.....
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 17, 2015
The horns were predominately gray, though, with orange only highlighting a portion of each horn (at least in the show, that is). If they had to be either solid color, sacrificing the secondary color in the process, gray would be the correct one to go with, especially since the horns were indeed solid gray in the show before Megatron scanned his Earth mode:ScottyP wrote:Yeah, the ears are meant to be two-toned - gray on the interior part closer to his head (ala the Takara release) and orange on the edges (like the Hasbro one). They're both just solid colors instead. Adding to the annoyance is that both the original Armada and Micron Legend toys got this part "right"!fenrir72 wrote:ScottyP wrote:Had a couple minutes to go look back at the show's animation model. It's the amount of purple on the chest of this Takara one that's bugging me. Entirely too much. I daresay the Hasbro one is closer to "correct", especially given that neither version did the two-toned "ears" properly.
Both versions didn't get the ear colors anime accurate right? Not so much into Armada that's why I ask.....

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Comment by ScottyP
Jun 17, 2015
Via Twipple User gadepon, along with sundry other sources online, images of colored prototypes of the upcoming Takara Tomy Legends Series Blackarachnia, Nightbird, and Slipstream are now a reality. We've mirrored the images below for your viewing pleasure.



Is your excitement increasing for these highly anticipated lady robots? Sound off below by replying to this post, and keep it tuned in for more news as it comes in very fast and furious tonight.



Is your excitement increasing for these highly anticipated lady robots? Sound off below by replying to this post, and keep it tuned in for more news as it comes in very fast and furious tonight.
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Comment by Bumblevivisector
Jun 17, 2015
DAMN, I better stop dragging my feet on pre-ordering these three! Even with Slipstream's vestigial-vindblade-turbines, a glance at these color samples would make you think these were original molds intended for these characters all along!
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Comment by SW's SilverHammer
Jun 17, 2015
It's interesting that they kept all of Arcee's weapon tooling for nightbird, yet it seems Windblade's sword's been removed from Slipstream. It also seems TFA blackarachnia's claw thingy's been removed as well.