Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details

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Fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath has reported to us that Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet is now back on Takaratomymall.com. He has noted a few changes to the photos. The listings confirms once again that he is limited to 2000 in Japan at the ?15,984 price, meaning that anyone outside Japan will have to buy the pricier Asia release (which has yet to be announced) to obtain this toy. Any of our Japanese members however can reserve their copy from November 30th to December 8th 2015.

Cyberpath wrote:He's back on the TakaraTomy Mall:

MP-11NR ??????
?15,984

It appears that the canopy piece (which becomes the head) wasn't fully tabbed during the photoshoot, so Takara Photoshopped the image to correct it. Looks better now.

They also changed the pilot.

Credit(s): TakaraTomyMall

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744439)
Posted by Marcdachamp on November 27th, 2015 @ 9:07am CST

I had no idea they were making MP Coneheads! Make this guy in G2 colors, and I'm sold!

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744440)
Posted by Rated X on November 27th, 2015 @ 9:11am CST

Japan only BS. These things are gonna get scalped by TFSource and BBTS japanese contacts and e-bay sellers. 60-70% of them will end up on american collectors shelves. Takara is beating a dead horse with these exclusive releases thinking theyre doing their own a favor. Its time for them to let it go and expand sales to their primary customer base.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744442)
Posted by william-james88 on November 27th, 2015 @ 9:26am CST

Rated X wrote:Japan only BS. These things are gonna get scalped by TFSource and BBTS japanese contacts and e-bay sellers. 60-70% of them will end up on american collectors shelves. Takara is beating a dead horse with these exclusive releases thinking theyre doing their own a favor. Its time for them to let it go and expand sales to their primary customer base.

Come on man, thats not true, and I wrote it in the news, there will be an asia release that wont be exclusive for us to buy. BBTS and TFsource have never scalped any of he previous exclusive MPs and they wont on this one. Look at thundercracker for instance, they only have the asia release (and not the limited japan release which is cheaper): http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-11t-thundercracker/

This is the Asian market release of this product

None of these 2000 will end up on American shelves, only the lesser limited asian ones.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744461)
Posted by Rated X on November 27th, 2015 @ 11:39am CST

Asia, japan, same crap with slightly different paint apps. Every takara "japan only" release has been made available through online retailers. Every millions publishing, e-hobby, winterfest, takara mall, Bape, etc. just like that that new drift repaint? My point is this mold will be available for US retail if you are willing to pay the "I gotta have it" price. Personally, Im disgusted with the word "exclusive" because it has no meaning other than how much youre willing to pay. Thats my point.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744470)
Posted by fenrir72 on November 27th, 2015 @ 12:08pm CST

Rated X wrote:Japan only BS. These things are gonna get scalped by TFSource and BBTS japanese contacts and e-bay sellers. 60-70% of them will end up on american collectors shelves. Takara is beating a dead horse with these exclusive releases thinking theyre doing their own a favor. Its time for them to let it go and expand sales to their primary customer base.

On the mark that TF isn't really that hot in Japan. And nope, most of the big spending collectors are from China.

As for the scalping, here you go again.

Step #1 You get only one source and at limited per household release (assuming those stores get their stocks direct from Japan ) or from Hasbro Asia. If the latter, maybe a little bit more.

Step #2 You are not sure how many stocks will be moved and you are required to pay in full. Don't tell me you are not gonna compute your profit margins with this business venture? You aren't running a charity btw

Step #3 Once it arrives at their Japan contact, you do have to package the item and travel to the post office too. That also lumps in extra costs

Step #4 The employees need to eat too right?

Step #5 There are other expenses as well

Step #6 Law of Supply and Demand. Low supply and high demand and you won't think of extra profits? Really? If there is NO demand, expect the prices to drop or at least wait 2 years for it to drop

Sometimes for a collector who purchases multiple versions of one character you despise just for the hahaha of it to make a point, now you are complaining of scalper prices? That's like a dime a dozen for you........

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744476)
Posted by william-james88 on November 27th, 2015 @ 1:11pm CST

Rated X wrote: My point is this mold will be available for US retail if you are willing to pay the "I gotta have it" price. Personally, Im disgusted with the word "exclusive" because it has no meaning other than how much youre willing to pay. Thats my point.

And I cant fault your point at all, expressed this way. I just wanted to point out to people reading what is going on behind this figure. It is exclusive, yes, and we must pay a high premium for it, also yes. But the premium is because you are stuck ordering the overpriced asia edition (which has no different paint apps, the only difference is that it comes with a coin) and not because it is actually limited. Which makes me even angrier than you as a collector.

I mean think about it, people will pay a higher price for an item that isnt even limited in any way. Isnt that a bit backwards of them? There are a limited 2000 that are about 130$ while the non limited ones will be 200$. And the only reason that this ramjet will be about 200$ from hasbro asia is because that is the price they have determined collectors would be willing to pay (demand based pricing, not cost based unlike Hasbro or Takara). That wrecks me from the inside.

What I mean to say is that I wasnt correcting you to disagree with your perspective but because the details behind it all make it even worse. Knowing these details has propelled me from ever buying those items at the Hasbro asia price. And I think most people would like to know what they are paying for (or maybe not, who knows).

Also I preffer aiming the blame at the right people.

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on November 27th, 2015 @ 3:56pm CST

Interesting indeed... :-?

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Posted by fenrir72 on November 27th, 2015 @ 7:31pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote: My point is this mold will be available for US retail if you are willing to pay the "I gotta have it" price. Personally, Im disgusted with the word "exclusive" because it has no meaning other than how much youre willing to pay. Thats my point.

And I cant fault your point at all, expressed this way. I just wanted to point out to people reading what is going on behind this figure. It is exclusive, yes, and we must pay a high premium for it, also yes. But the premium is because you are stuck ordering the overpriced asia edition (which has no different paint apps, the only difference is that it comes with a coin) and not because it is actually limited. Which makes me even angrier than you as a collector.

I mean think about it, people will pay a higher price for an item that isnt even limited in any way. Isnt that a bit backwards of them? There are a limited 2000 that are about 130$ while the non limited ones will be 200$. And the only reason that this ramjet will be about 200$ from hasbro asia is because that is the price they have determined collectors would be willing to pay (demand based pricing, not cost based unlike Hasbro or Takara). That wrecks me from the inside.

What I mean to say is that I wasnt correcting you to disagree with your perspective but because the details behind it all make it even worse. Knowing these details has propelled me from ever buying those items at the Hasbro asia price. And I think most people would like to know what they are paying for (or maybe not, who knows).

Also I preffer aiming the blame at the right people.

And haven't anyone noticed that aside from TFs, in anime PVC figs for instance, sure there are certain popular lines that when sold "non exclusive", is kind of touch and go. Some sell out leaving no inventory while others don't leaving stores with a lot of inventory hence relegated to 50% off bargain bins?

So it might also be a sales strategy to release solicitations that require immediate payment so as the manufacturers only produced certified sold items leaving them with no inventory? And laugh all the way to the bank?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744933)
Posted by ZenPrime on November 30th, 2015 @ 12:21pm CST

MP-11NR Masterpiece Ramjet pre-order up @ BBTS & TFS for $179.99

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12274&mode=retail

http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-11nr-ramjet/

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Posted by Agamemnon on November 30th, 2015 @ 12:52pm CST

ZenPrime wrote:MP-11NR Masterpiece Ramjet pre-order up @ BBTS & TFS for $179.99

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12274&mode=retail

http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-11nr-ramjet/

I saw the email from BBTS this morning, and am sorely tempted... If this was Thrust, I probably would have bitten. And I might be interested in a G2 version of Ramjet, because it just looks so cool! (And I have the original G2 version...)

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744955)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 30th, 2015 @ 1:26pm CST

Hmmm...It's very hard to balk at a $180 price tag, given that we (Hasbro territory consumers) usually end up paying between $200 to $230 for Takara releases of the MP-11 mold. So, what does that have to say about these pan-Asian/Chinese price hikes on Transformers? Maybe BBTS and TFSource are buying directly from TakaraTomy Mall for MP Ramjet?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744963)
Posted by william-james88 on November 30th, 2015 @ 2:43pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:Hmmm...It's very hard to balk at a $180 price tag, given that we (Hasbro territory consumers) usually end up paying between $200 to $230 for Takara releases of the MP-11 mold. So, what does that have to say about these pan-Asian/Chinese price hikes on Transformers? Maybe BBTS and TFSource are buying directly from TakaraTomy Mall for MP Ramjet?

No, they say so in the listing on TFSource (http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-11nr-ramjet/):

This is the Asian market release of this product

TT is contractually not allowed to distribute their products anywhere other than Japan and thus no american retailer can ever get a direct account with them. The only reason why the price is lower (its still a 50$ mark up from the japan edition which is more limited while this one isnt) is because Hasbro Asia chose to sell it for less this time, probably because they didnt sell out their previous seekers as quickly as they wanted.

Since they are two different companies, markets and pricing strategies, the Hasbro Asia Price and Takara Tomy price are not related (I know you didnt ask, but I just wanted to put that out there since I find it interesting and also annoying).

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1744996)
Posted by Robogeek1973 on November 30th, 2015 @ 7:51pm CST

Happy to see this isn't $200.

I preordered him this morning. :-D

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1772976)
Posted by Cyberpath on March 15th, 2016 @ 6:24am CDT

More pix at: http://transformersasia.com/exclusive/e ... tail/3/255

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1773010)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 15th, 2016 @ 1:01pm CDT

Fellow Seibertronians, Transformers Asia, the collector site for Hasbro Asia, has just posted pictures of the new MP-11NR Ramjet, an extensive retool of MP-11 Starscream. In the new pictures we get to see him in action alongside MP Starscream and MP Skywarp, along with some of his features. Ramjet is a TakaraTomy Mall exclusive in Japan, and is expected to be released to Japan on 3/19, with a subsequent Hasbro Asia release on 3/31. So check out the images mirrored below and let us know your what you think in the comments below.

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Posted by Diem on March 15th, 2016 @ 1:33pm CDT

I might be alone in this but it sucks that there's no indication that you can swap the head and nosecone out for a G1 toy accurate (e.g. non-conehead) head. I loved the packaging art for Dirge et al back in G1 and I hated that that ridiculous-looking mis-transformation became so widespread.

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Posted by Big Grim on March 15th, 2016 @ 2:50pm CDT

I have the iGear cone heads but I admit, I'd be tempted by this if it were a widespread release.

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Posted by william-james88 on March 15th, 2016 @ 6:39pm CDT

Hmm, those pics use Hasbro's Starscream, which is a bit odd considering he wasnt a Hasbro Asia release but whatevs.

One thing does suck though and I only realized it now, Ramjet is not show accurate from the back in the least. For one, his conehead is only black on one side, which means that when you pose him, whenever you walk into a room to look at him, unless you are dead on his eyes, his bullet head will appear to be black and white. Thats because the back of his head is all white.

And thats obviously not show accurate at all, as this amazing gif shows:

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Posted by Amelie on March 15th, 2016 @ 6:40pm CDT

Diem wrote:I might be alone in this but it sucks that there's no indication that you can swap the head and nosecone out for a G1 toy accurate (e.g. non-conehead) head. I loved the packaging art for Dirge et al back in G1 and I hated that that ridiculous-looking mis-transformation became so widespread.

You're not alone in this. I always displayed all my Decepticon jets with the proper transformation. What worked in the cartoon - does not work on the toy.

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Posted by Cobotron on March 15th, 2016 @ 6:44pm CDT

Amelie wrote:
Diem wrote:I might be alone in this but it sucks that there's no indication that you can swap the head and nosecone out for a G1 toy accurate (e.g. non-conehead) head. I loved the packaging art for Dirge et al back in G1 and I hated that that ridiculous-looking mis-transformation became so widespread.

You're not alone in this. I always displayed all my Decepticon jets with the proper transformation. What worked in the cartoon - does not work on the toy.

A growing minority, we are. I was just never in to the "party hat" look.

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Posted by Ultra Markus on March 15th, 2016 @ 7:53pm CDT

i always liked the conehead look it differentiated them from the standard seekers like they were a new version better than the old version and it gave them a more villainous look

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Posted by padfoo on March 15th, 2016 @ 7:56pm CDT

I can't wait to get this! I still love the seeker mold, and this latest update looks great. There are enough changes that I feel like this is a must have for my masterpiece collection.

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Posted by BumbleDouche on March 17th, 2016 @ 4:24am CDT

Ultra Markus wrote:i always liked the conehead look it differentiated them from the standard seekers like they were a new version better than the old version and it gave them a more villainous look

I agree, definitely! Although it's fairly minor, the conehead nonetheless makes a big difference to the robot mode. And since we've now got Acid Storm, Sunstorm, etc., it'd really be lazy to just do another bunch of identical-apart-from-the-painjob Seekers. Though that Dr. Arkeville/Hologram Pilot sure is turning into a robot equivalent of the village bicycle lol.

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Posted by Cyberpath on March 19th, 2016 @ 10:49am CDT

Some interesting in-hand pix:

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1773912)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 19th, 2016 @ 3:07pm CDT

Fellow Seibertronians, thanks to a multitude of users and various sources, we now have even more images of the limited edition MP-11NR Ramjet! These new images show off Ramjet in both his modes as well as some comparisons to other masterpiece figures. The previous news can be found Here. . Ramjet is a TakaraTomy Mall exclusive in Japan, and is expected to be released to Japan today, with the Hasbro Asia release coming on March 31. Take another look at this guy, and let us know what you think of this guy in the comments section. And as always, stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your latest Transformers news and galleries!

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Posted by Cobotron on March 19th, 2016 @ 3:15pm CDT

I'm really liking that strange face sculpt. Here's hoping they do a Thrust or Dirge as a more regular, reasonably priced release. I would love to diversify my Con ranks with at least one cone head. Just can't stomach the price they are asking for this guy.

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on March 19th, 2016 @ 3:34pm CDT

At least we now know where the head goes! ;)^

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Posted by dragons on March 19th, 2016 @ 4:33pm CDT

There something you won't see in transformers live action movie series compared to animated series transformer riding on top of another transformer in jousting match there's comedy for you

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Posted by Gearslide on March 19th, 2016 @ 4:45pm CDT

dragons wrote:There something you won't see in transformers live action movie series compared to animated series transformer riding on top of another transformer in jousting match there's comedy for you

And yet somehow, the "realistic" movie looks goofier than the dated cartoon.

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on March 19th, 2016 @ 4:58pm CDT

Gearslide wrote:
dragons wrote:There something you won't see in transformers live action movie series compared to animated series transformer riding on top of another transformer in jousting match there's comedy for you

And yet somehow, the "realistic" movie looks goofier than the dated cartoon.

But hey, we're all about goofy here. 8-}

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Posted by padfoo on March 19th, 2016 @ 5:30pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:At least we now know where the head goes!

So true!, yet so disturbing on many levels! :SICK:

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Posted by Agamemnon on March 19th, 2016 @ 5:37pm CDT

padfoo wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:At least we now know where the head goes!

So true!, yet so disturbing on many levels!

Indeed, and we also know why the back of the cone is white instead of black. I like this. I might have to try to get one.... :-?

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Posted by Gearslide on March 19th, 2016 @ 5:59pm CDT

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on March 19th, 2016 @ 6:11pm CDT

Gearslide wrote:

OMG.

So disturbing yet so hilarious.

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Posted by kurthy on March 19th, 2016 @ 7:18pm CDT

If only I could figure out a way to justify the cost to myself.

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on March 19th, 2016 @ 7:48pm CDT

kurthy wrote::( If only I could figure out a way to justify the cost to myself.

Ikr? That's the only problem.

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Posted by Sabrblade on March 19th, 2016 @ 10:48pm CDT

Vehicle Mode!

Robot Mode!

GoBot Mode!

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Posted by bvzxa on March 19th, 2016 @ 11:22pm CDT

The MP Seekers are just ugly to me. The only thing that makes them cool is scale. The proportions are just not quite right. The deluxe coneheads have a better transformation than this. How the hell they get it right and MP just botches it up. After owning both MP seekers I have never, ever been impressed with the look or feel. The seekers need another overhaul.

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Posted by Rainmaker on March 20th, 2016 @ 2:22am CDT

This is the first conehead, right? I wonder if the transformation is any different...

What is it with being an MP-11NR though?

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Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2016 @ 9:32am CDT

Rainmaker wrote:This is the first conehead, right? I wonder if the transformation is any different...

It is very different, yes.

Pics of the instructions.

Rainmaker wrote:What is it with being an MP-11NR though?

Exclusive MPs not sold at mass retail don't get new numbers, regardless of retooling and/or being a different character.

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Posted by MGrotusque on March 20th, 2016 @ 1:01pm CDT

Meh......maybe i'll wait for a thrust. I wish this mold would fix those terrible feet. That's the worst part of this mold to me and has kept me from buying any incarnation of it. It needs to be addressed IMO.

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Posted by MGrotusque on March 20th, 2016 @ 1:03pm CDT

bvzxa wrote:The MP Seekers are just ugly to me. The only thing that makes them cool is scale. The proportions are just not quite right. The deluxe coneheads have a better transformation than this. How the hell they get it right and MP just botches it up. After owning both MP seekers I have never, ever been impressed with the look or feel. The seekers need another overhaul.

Agreed.

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on March 20th, 2016 @ 3:38pm CDT

bvzxa wrote:The MP Seekers are just ugly to me. The only thing that makes them cool is scale. The proportions are just not quite right. The deluxe coneheads have a better transformation than this. How the hell they get it right and MP just botches it up. After owning both MP seekers I have never, ever been impressed with the look or feel. The seekers need another overhaul.

You are soooooooooooooooooo wrong. :-P

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Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 20th, 2016 @ 4:22pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:
bvzxa wrote:The MP Seekers are just ugly to me. The only thing that makes them cool is scale. The proportions are just not quite right. The deluxe coneheads have a better transformation than this. How the hell they get it right and MP just botches it up. After owning both MP seekers I have never, ever been impressed with the look or feel. The seekers need another overhaul.

You are soooooooooooooooooo wrong.

Technically, they aren't, its been pointed out in depth how and why they don't match the cartoon appearances, as for everything else, both sides are equally subjective, so your point doesn't hold much >:oP

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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on March 20th, 2016 @ 5:00pm CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
bvzxa wrote:The MP Seekers are just ugly to me. The only thing that makes them cool is scale. The proportions are just not quite right. The deluxe coneheads have a better transformation than this. How the hell they get it right and MP just botches it up. After owning both MP seekers I have never, ever been impressed with the look or feel. The seekers need another overhaul.

You are soooooooooooooooooo wrong.

Technically, they aren't, its been pointed out in depth how and why they don't match the cartoon appearances, as for everything else, both sides are equally subjective, so your point doesn't hold much

Here comes Mr. overly logical. :roll:

Clash of opinions. Personally I think it looks pretty close, and am happy with how it looks. The feet change however I could side with.

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Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 20th, 2016 @ 5:04pm CDT

SillySpringer wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
bvzxa wrote:The MP Seekers are just ugly to me. The only thing that makes them cool is scale. The proportions are just not quite right. The deluxe coneheads have a better transformation than this. How the hell they get it right and MP just botches it up. After owning both MP seekers I have never, ever been impressed with the look or feel. The seekers need another overhaul.

You are soooooooooooooooooo wrong.

Technically, they aren't, its been pointed out in depth how and why they don't match the cartoon appearances, as for everything else, both sides are equally subjective, so your point doesn't hold much

Here comes Mr. overly logical.

Clash of opinions. Personally I think it looks pretty close, and am happy with how it looks. The feet change however I could side with.

Personally, I'm on your side, I think they did a great job, and getting any further into the nitty-gritty is overkill - but there are incongruities, so it is a fair point, and, yeah, the feet could be a lot more solid

And yes, overly logical, have you read my motto >:oP

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Posted by bvzxa on March 20th, 2016 @ 5:48pm CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
bvzxa wrote:The MP Seekers are just ugly to me. The only thing that makes them cool is scale. The proportions are just not quite right. The deluxe coneheads have a better transformation than this. How the hell they get it right and MP just botches it up. After owning both MP seekers I have never, ever been impressed with the look or feel. The seekers need another overhaul.

You are soooooooooooooooooo wrong.

Technically, they aren't, its been pointed out in depth how and why they don't match the cartoon appearances, as for everything else, both sides are equally subjective, so your point doesn't hold much

Here comes Mr. overly logical.

Clash of opinions. Personally I think it looks pretty close, and am happy with how it looks. The feet change however I could side with.

Personally, I'm on your side, I think they did a great job, and getting any further into the nitty-gritty is overkill - but there are incongruities, so it is a fair point, and, yeah, the feet could be a lot more solid

And yes, overly logical, have you read my motto

Im not expecting perfection, but something is a bit elongated on the chest. A lot stems from the jet mode being too perfect for the F-15s. Now the deluxe seekers aren't some awesome feat, but at least the proportions are much better except for the arm blasters. Because of the perfection of the alt-mode for the MP Seekers, the feet suffer. The chest transformation still doesn't quite lock into place. The head sits too far up on the canopy, giving them that strange neck.

Now after looking at the pictures for MP-11NR, I notice how the faux head fits better on the canopy sans transformation, and that helps a whole lot. Some how the proportions seem to look a bit better with that head. If Ramjet looks this good then imagine how Thrust is going to fare. Right now Ramjet is looking better than Starscream in those pics. The MP cars are pretty close to their animation counterparts, yet the Decepticons are still getting the short end from the MP line. The only one that is just awesome is MP Soundwave.

As it stands, this is the best Takara has done with the seeker mold since MP-11 and its prior subsequent repaints.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1774272)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 20th, 2016 @ 6:59pm CDT

bvzxa wrote:Im not expecting perfection, but something is a bit elongated on the chest. A lot stems from the jet mode being too perfect for the F-15s. Now the deluxe seekers aren't some awesome feat, but at least the proportions are much better except for the arm blasters. Because of the perfection of the alt-mode for the MP Seekers, the feet suffer. The chest transformation still doesn't quite lock into place. The head sits too far up on the canopy, giving them that strange neck.

Now after looking at the pictures for MP-11NR, I notice how the faux head fits better on the canopy sans transformation, and that helps a whole lot. Some how the proportions seem to look a bit better with that head. If Ramjet looks this good then imagine how Thrust is going to fare. Right now Ramjet is looking better than Starscream in those pics. The MP cars are pretty close to their animation counterparts, yet the Decepticons are still getting the short end from the MP line. The only one that is just awesome is MP Soundwave.

As it stands, this is the best Takara has done with the seeker mold since MP-11 and its prior subsequent repaints.

He certainly does wear that mold well

and I'll give you the chest not tabbing together, I seriously can't believe that hasn't been worked out yet #-o

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1774381)
Posted by Ravage XK on March 21st, 2016 @ 6:36am CDT

There is something not quite right with this Ramjet but I cant put my finger on it. I'm tempted to collect the cone heads but Ramjet isn't a must have for me.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-11NR Ramjet Back Online with Pre Order Details (1774538)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on March 21st, 2016 @ 1:30pm CDT

bvzxa wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
bvzxa wrote:The MP Seekers are just ugly to me. The only thing that makes them cool is scale. The proportions are just not quite right. The deluxe coneheads have a better transformation than this. How the hell they get it right and MP just botches it up. After owning both MP seekers I have never, ever been impressed with the look or feel. The seekers need another overhaul.

You are soooooooooooooooooo wrong.

Technically, they aren't, its been pointed out in depth how and why they don't match the cartoon appearances, as for everything else, both sides are equally subjective, so your point doesn't hold much

Here comes Mr. overly logical.

Clash of opinions. Personally I think it looks pretty close, and am happy with how it looks. The feet change however I could side with.

Personally, I'm on your side, I think they did a great job, and getting any further into the nitty-gritty is overkill - but there are incongruities, so it is a fair point, and, yeah, the feet could be a lot more solid

And yes, overly logical, have you read my motto

Im not expecting perfection, but something is a bit elongated on the chest. A lot stems from the jet mode being too perfect for the F-15s. Now the deluxe seekers aren't some awesome feat, but at least the proportions are much better except for the arm blasters. Because of the perfection of the alt-mode for the MP Seekers, the feet suffer. The chest transformation still doesn't quite lock into place. The head sits too far up on the canopy, giving them that strange neck.

Now after looking at the pictures for MP-11NR, I notice how the faux head fits better on the canopy sans transformation, and that helps a whole lot. Some how the proportions seem to look a bit better with that head. If Ramjet looks this good then imagine how Thrust is going to fare. Right now Ramjet is looking better than Starscream in those pics. The MP cars are pretty close to their animation counterparts, yet the Decepticons are still getting the short end from the MP line. The only one that is just awesome is MP Soundwave.

As it stands, this is the best Takara has done with the seeker mold since MP-11 and its prior subsequent repaints.

From what I've heard, the latest MP TRU exclusive Hasbro Starscream has a way better locking mechanism. Sounds like they tried to fix it. If I can find him at a ToysRUs soon, I'll probably get him to see if he is as bad as the previous ones, or if he has a fixed locking mechanism on the torso.

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