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Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-17 Prowl Teaser #2
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Feb 25, 2013 at 12:55am CST
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The contradiction comes from saying, "I think redecoes and retools are core to the Masterpiece series, just as it was to the original G1 toyline." By saying that they're as essential to MP line as the G1 line, that implies that both any molds that we redeoced and any molds that were new molds in G1 deserves the same treatment in MP form. Meaning that since Jazz was a different mold from Prowl in G1, he should have his own MP mold as well, which contradicts the claim that Jazz would work as a remold of MP Prowl.
That last paragraph made more sense in my head before I typed it, so I hope I worded it coherently enough.
Comment by Sabrblade
Feb 25, 2013
The very nature of the MP line is to take G1 designs and makes them super detailed and as show-accurate as possible with modern engineering. The use of redeco-able molds is just a business strategy not inherently tied to the purpose of the MP line. That's a strategy that is used for far more than just the MPs.Henry921 wrote:Where, exactly did I contradict myself? My point of contention was "the very nature of the Masterpiece line", which I felt was intentionally designed both to select popular characters and molds which could be redecoed and retooled, as indeed, Seekers and OP are, and the Alert/Sideswipe mold has already demonstrated.
The contradiction comes from saying, "I think redecoes and retools are core to the Masterpiece series, just as it was to the original G1 toyline." By saying that they're as essential to MP line as the G1 line, that implies that both any molds that we redeoced and any molds that were new molds in G1 deserves the same treatment in MP form. Meaning that since Jazz was a different mold from Prowl in G1, he should have his own MP mold as well, which contradicts the claim that Jazz would work as a remold of MP Prowl.
That last paragraph made more sense in my head before I typed it, so I hope I worded it coherently enough.
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Comment by Sinnertwin
Feb 25, 2013
Enough with the teasers already!
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Comment by SKYWARPED_128
Feb 25, 2013
So, how does this new dark silhouette that shows you next to nothing differ from the first dark silhouette that shows you next to nothing?
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Comment by KnightStrike
Feb 25, 2013
You think by now Takara could afford some light bulbs 
Seriously wish they would drop the teaser thing and just show pics of their products, its killing me to find out if these bots are indeed Datsun 280Zs 
Seriously wish they would drop the teaser thing and just show pics of their products, its killing me to find out if these bots are indeed Datsun 280Zs
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Comment by Ultra Markus
Feb 25, 2013
one question is are these going to have licencing by nissan like sideswipe and red alert were with Lamborghini? and if they did jazz would he be a Porsche, since jazz was a Porsche in G1 would Porsche still have issues licensing transformers like they have in the past or would jazz be something else?
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Comment by Down_Shift
Feb 25, 2013
This has me very aroused.
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Comment by noctorro
Feb 25, 2013
<grumpy>
Before you pump out yet another Masterpiece, and choosing a mold that's been pretty much done in the Alternator line, you should consider rethinking the transformations.
My Seeker is flimsey, if you grab it by the waist the front of the body falls down, can't rotate the shoulders without shifting bigger parts etc.
tnx, Takara bye
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Before you pump out yet another Masterpiece, and choosing a mold that's been pretty much done in the Alternator line, you should consider rethinking the transformations.
My Seeker is flimsey, if you grab it by the waist the front of the body falls down, can't rotate the shoulders without shifting bigger parts etc.
tnx, Takara bye
</grumpy>
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If they showed it to us now, the big reveal to come later would be spoiled.
Comment by Sabrblade
Feb 25, 2013
This is from a different angle.SKYWARPED_128 wrote:So, how does this new dark silhouette that shows you next to nothing differ from the first dark silhouette that shows you next to nothing?
That's the idea. They do this to keep us in suspense and get us excited. It's all just to build up hype.KnightStrike wrote:You think by now Takara could afford some light bulbs
If they showed it to us now, the big reveal to come later would be spoiled.
But this is Prowl.Ultra Markus wrote:one question is are these going to have licencing by nissan like sideswipe and red alert were with Lamborghini? and if they did jazz would he be a Porsche, since jazz was a Porsche in G1 would Porsche still have issues licensing transformers like they have in the past or would jazz be something else?
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Comment by kirbenvost
Feb 25, 2013
Photoshoppers, anyone able to get more detail out of this one?
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Comment by Muscle Man
Feb 25, 2013
ENOUGH WITH THE REPAINTS!
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Comment by Sabrblade
Feb 25, 2013
Er, this toy is a new mold.Muscle Man wrote:ENOUGH WITH THE REPAINTS!
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Comment by TimothyR
Feb 25, 2013
My one and only complaint (it's minor) is that the ends of his doors don't curl up like they did in the show.
And I REALLY hope he doesn't have "POLICE" painted on his doors. Leave that to hasbro.
And I REALLY hope he doesn't have "POLICE" painted on his doors. Leave that to hasbro.
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Even if the Takara G1 toy had them too?
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Feb 25, 2013
TimothyR wrote:My one and only complaint (it's minor) is that the ends of his doors don't curl up like they did in the show.
And I REALLY hope he doesn't have "POLICE" painted on his doors. Leave that to hasbro.
Even if the Takara G1 toy had them too?
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I understand your gripe and agree, but I think they did a pretty good job MP Sidesweipe, Convoy, and Soundwave. I have faith MP Prowl will have better articulation than the seekers.
Comment by Stormrider
Feb 25, 2013
noctorro wrote:<grumpy>
Before you pump out yet another Masterpiece, and choosing a mold that's been pretty much done in the Alternator line, you should consider rethinking the transformations.
My Seeker is flimsey, if you grab it by the waist the front of the body falls down, can't rotate the shoulders without shifting bigger parts etc.
tnx, Takara bye
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I understand your gripe and agree, but I think they did a pretty good job MP Sidesweipe, Convoy, and Soundwave. I have faith MP Prowl will have better articulation than the seekers.
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Point well taken, but this is Prowl(and more importantly for me the same mold as Bluestreak!) we are talking about! This much suspense just isn't right On a more serious note, Nissan owns the rights to all things Datsun and Nissan has expressed no issues with licensing to HasTak for TFs correct, or am I getting things confused again?
Comment by KnightStrike
Feb 25, 2013
KnightStrike wrote:You think by now Takara could afford some light bulbs
Sabrblade wrote:
That's the idea. They do this to keep us in suspense and get us excited. It's all just to build up hype.
If they showed it to us now, the big reveal to come later would be spoiled.
Point well taken, but this is Prowl(and more importantly for me the same mold as Bluestreak!) we are talking about! This much suspense just isn't right
On a more serious note, Nissan owns the rights to all things Datsun and Nissan has expressed no issues with licensing to HasTak for TFs correct, or am I getting things confused again?
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Comment by sdn1337
Feb 25, 2013
Come on... takara is definitely doing this on purpose! You can tell that this figure along with smokescreen and bluestreak are going to be awesome though. Can't wait to see what they actually look like.
I also hope that takara/hasbro keeps the same scale with the mp line. They probably will though i don't see why rescaling again would do any good. They probably did that with optimus because that was their first masterpiece ever and it was a test in a way.
But hopefully by 2015 most of the G1 roster will be out. I don't know though. That would be A LOT of mp figures in such little time. I just want to see everyone looking exactly how they looked in the show.
I wasn't alive when G1 started, but i bet anyone that was never thought years from then they'd have figures that look pretty much exactly the way they do in the show. The wonders of technology and the mind.
I also hope that takara/hasbro keeps the same scale with the mp line. They probably will though i don't see why rescaling again would do any good. They probably did that with optimus because that was their first masterpiece ever and it was a test in a way.
But hopefully by 2015 most of the G1 roster will be out. I don't know though. That would be A LOT of mp figures in such little time. I just want to see everyone looking exactly how they looked in the show.
I wasn't alive when G1 started, but i bet anyone that was never thought years from then they'd have figures that look pretty much exactly the way they do in the show. The wonders of technology and the mind.
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I am pretty sure if in 1984 someone had told me that one day I would get Transformers that looked just like they did in the cartoon and have oodles of articulation so you could do all kinds of awesome poses my kid brain would have exploded from sheer awesomeness
Comment by KnightStrike
Feb 25, 2013
sdn1337 wrote:Come on... takara is definitely doing this on purpose! You can tell that this figure along with smokescreen and bluestreak are going to be awesome though. Can't wait to see what they actually look like.
I also hope that takara/hasbro keeps the same scale with the mp line. They probably will though i don't see why rescaling again would do any good. They probably did that with optimus because that was their first masterpiece ever and it was a test in a way.
But hopefully by 2015 most of the G1 roster will be out. I don't know though. That would be A LOT of mp figures in such little time. I just want to see everyone looking exactly how they looked in the show.
I wasn't alive when G1 started, but i bet anyone that was never thought years from then they'd have figures that look pretty much exactly the way they do in the show. The wonders of technology and the mind.
I am pretty sure if in 1984 someone had told me that one day I would get Transformers that looked just like they did in the cartoon and have oodles of articulation so you could do all kinds of awesome poses my kid brain would have exploded from sheer awesomeness
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So, im not talking about Prowl
Comment by Ultra Markus
Feb 25, 2013
Sabrblade wrote:This is from a different angle.SKYWARPED_128 wrote:So, how does this new dark silhouette that shows you next to nothing differ from the first dark silhouette that shows you next to nothing?That's the idea. They do this to keep us in suspense and get us excited. It's all just to build up hype.KnightStrike wrote:You think by now Takara could afford some light bulbs
If they showed it to us now, the big reveal to come later would be spoiled.But this is Prowl.Ultra Markus wrote:one question is are these going to have licencing by nissan like sideswipe and red alert were with Lamborghini? and if they did jazz would he be a Porsche, since jazz was a Porsche in G1 would Porsche still have issues licensing transformers like they have in the past or would jazz be something else?
So, im not talking about Prowl
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Comment by Blurrz
Feb 25, 2013
If they can get Lamborghini on board, I'm pretty damn sure all other motor companies are eager to follow.
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If you notice, takara shoots more for toon accuracy. Hence their recent starscream, hot rod, and the accessories that soundwave and sideswipe come with.
In the cartoon neither car doors or robot mode doors had "POLICE" painted on them.
The only thing that takara omits are colors, especially silver for white. In the toon, primes waist and thighs are white, while his toy is silver/grey, same goes for parts of soundwaves legs and his forearms.
Hasbro will probably take the toy version, similar to what they did with hot rod.
It wouldn't be the worst thing in he world, it just wouldn't really coincide with the accuracy that they've been striving for lately.
Comment by TimothyR
Feb 25, 2013
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:TimothyR wrote:My one and only complaint (it's minor) is that the ends of his doors don't curl up like they did in the show.
And I REALLY hope he doesn't have "POLICE" painted on his doors. Leave that to hasbro.
Even if the Takara G1 toy had them too?
If you notice, takara shoots more for toon accuracy. Hence their recent starscream, hot rod, and the accessories that soundwave and sideswipe come with.
In the cartoon neither car doors or robot mode doors had "POLICE" painted on them.
The only thing that takara omits are colors, especially silver for white. In the toon, primes waist and thighs are white, while his toy is silver/grey, same goes for parts of soundwaves legs and his forearms.
Hasbro will probably take the toy version, similar to what they did with hot rod.
It wouldn't be the worst thing in he world, it just wouldn't really coincide with the accuracy that they've been striving for lately.
