Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut
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Takara Tomy has updated their website with the next wave Transformers United featuring Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut. The toys are expected to be released at the end of January 2011. Grapple features an orange head, contrary to Hasbro's black, and metallic paint in various areas. Jazz and Tracks have enhanced paint applications, while Tracks' hood now resembles the one on the Generation One toy. Lugnut features a darker paint job and a purple head. All four of these figures have painted in faction symbols, instead of Hasbro's rubsigns.
You can also view Takara Tomy Transformers United webpage by clicking here.
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You can also view Takara Tomy Transformers United webpage by clicking here.
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Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161331)
Posted by Galvatrondestroyer on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:34am CST
Posted by Galvatrondestroyer on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:34am CST
Tracks looks better with the g1ish hood decal and autobot sign on the chest...jazz,however, looks the same with the autobot logo added. Hopefully Takara painted the back end of his vehicle mode.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161332)
Posted by Blurrz on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:40am CST
Look closer. The wheel rims are all painted. Probably will have metallic paint additions on the parts that look metal-ish. And the white plastic will be of a more superior white....
I'll be getting all of these, sans Luggy. Grapple's head is accurate for the first half of the G1 cartoon.. and the Hasbro version for the other half. Jazz is smexy, and so is Tracks. Luggy's accurate with Hasbro.
Posted by Blurrz on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:40am CST
Galvatrondestroyer wrote:Tracks looks better with the g1ish hood decal and autobot sign on the chest...jazz,however, looks the same with the autobot logo added. Hopefully Takara painted the back end of his vehicle mode.
Look closer. The wheel rims are all painted. Probably will have metallic paint additions on the parts that look metal-ish. And the white plastic will be of a more superior white....
I'll be getting all of these, sans Luggy. Grapple's head is accurate for the first half of the G1 cartoon.. and the Hasbro version for the other half. Jazz is smexy, and so is Tracks. Luggy's accurate with Hasbro.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161333)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:41am CST
Posted by MINDVVIPE on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:41am CST
Well Jazz actually has his back windows painted, and I think I see brake lights too.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161336)
Posted by Galvatrondestroyer on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:47am CST
Huh, didn't notice that. must be too blinded by my recent buys of Thunderwing and Skullgrin lol. And I'll agree, Jazz is very sexy lol. I love my RTS Jazz
Posted by Galvatrondestroyer on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:47am CST
Blurrz wrote:Galvatrondestroyer wrote:Tracks looks better with the g1ish hood decal and autobot sign on the chest...jazz,however, looks the same with the autobot logo added. Hopefully Takara painted the back end of his vehicle mode.
Look closer. The wheel rims are all painted. Probably will have metallic paint additions on the parts that look metal-ish. And the white plastic will be of a more superior white....
I'll be getting all of these, sans Luggy. Grapple's head is accurate for the first half of the G1 cartoon.. and the Hasbro version for the other half. Jazz is smexy, and so is Tracks. Luggy's accurate with Hasbro.
Huh, didn't notice that. must be too blinded by my recent buys of Thunderwing and Skullgrin lol. And I'll agree, Jazz is very sexy lol. I love my RTS Jazz
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161354)
Posted by Stockade on December 24th, 2010 @ 4:23am CST
Posted by Stockade on December 24th, 2010 @ 4:23am CST
Not only do i see brake lights painted on for back end of alt mode, but painted windows, painted wheels and a metallic brighter white paint job that down right looks sexy for Jazz! thats why im ordering Jazz and Grapple from Takara, and dont give a hoot about Lugnut and how dare Hasbro cross an animated line figure into a United/ Genline or RTS line, too me thats not right on Has/Tak part. Pulling other figure lines and calling them something else...GEESH!!!! Hello Hasbro, be MORE creative!!!!
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161370)
Posted by Sid Burn on December 24th, 2010 @ 6:18am CST
Posted by Sid Burn on December 24th, 2010 @ 6:18am CST
Tracks is a no brainer from takara with that hood logo
everything looks generally better here, grapple is a matter of opinion though,
we will probably see a divide on him.
Takara lugnut looks better as well, more decepticon like with the added purple
everything looks generally better here, grapple is a matter of opinion though,
we will probably see a divide on him.
Takara lugnut looks better as well, more decepticon like with the added purple
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161392)
Posted by jlogano20 on December 24th, 2010 @ 7:28am CST
Posted by jlogano20 on December 24th, 2010 @ 7:28am CST
i may get tracks but what is grapples gimmick supposed to be
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161431)
Posted by kirbenvost on December 24th, 2010 @ 9:04am CST
Posted by kirbenvost on December 24th, 2010 @ 9:04am CST
This settles it. I'm definitely getting United Jazz. Way better with all the paint apps it should have. Surprisingly, I don't really care too much about Tracks. The Hasbro one looks fine to me, hood emblem and all.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161491)
Posted by prmlove1 on December 24th, 2010 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by prmlove1 on December 24th, 2010 @ 12:09pm CST
I cxan't say they all look better but they do look good. Like I said before, however, I would rather spend my money on 3 Hasbro deluxes than one Takara deluxe with better paint apps. But thats just my personal opinion. Then again if the price is the same for you either way, then definitely go for which looks better to you (in most cases the Takara ones).
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161529)
Posted by Traxus Prime on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:24pm CST
Posted by Traxus Prime on December 24th, 2010 @ 1:24pm CST
Jazz looks awesome. I was really hoping Takara would have given him a smile/smirk instead of his frowny face though.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161552)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on December 24th, 2010 @ 2:25pm CST
Posted by MINDVVIPE on December 24th, 2010 @ 2:25pm CST
TBH, Tracks looks amazing with that shiney blue paintjob. I don't care for the character at all, but if I did, that united version is just stunning. It needs a little revolving mirror base for it, hah.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161810)
Posted by Joetx on December 25th, 2010 @ 10:46am CST
Posted by Joetx on December 25th, 2010 @ 10:46am CST
I know it's subjective, and I bet it's been discussed to death, but why are Takara's versions so much better looking than Hasbro's?
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161813)
Posted by Mkall on December 25th, 2010 @ 10:55am CST
TT's versions are usually more detailed because they target collectors (Both Japanese and Others) and thus usually add more accurate/detailed paint apps.
Posted by Mkall on December 25th, 2010 @ 10:55am CST
Joetx wrote:I know it's subjective, and I bet it's been discussed to death, but why are Takara's versions so much better looking than Hasbro's?
TT's versions are usually more detailed because they target collectors (Both Japanese and Others) and thus usually add more accurate/detailed paint apps.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161835)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 25th, 2010 @ 1:00pm CST
The Deluxes are roughly $30 converted (holy smokes), and the Voyagers $45 (yikes!). They can be that expensive because, as I've heard, the Japanese have more disposable income than we do, and thus the toys can still be appealing.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 25th, 2010 @ 1:00pm CST
Mkall wrote:Joetx wrote:I know it's subjective, and I bet it's been discussed to death, but why are Takara's versions so much better looking than Hasbro's?
TT's versions are usually more detailed because they target collectors (Both Japanese and Others) and thus usually add more accurate/detailed paint apps.
The Deluxes are roughly $30 converted (holy smokes), and the Voyagers $45 (yikes!). They can be that expensive because, as I've heard, the Japanese have more disposable income than we do, and thus the toys can still be appealing.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161839)
Posted by Joetx on December 25th, 2010 @ 1:11pm CST
Who does Hasbro target then? Obviously, kids are 1 of the targets. But I'd bet that adult collectors make up a significant portion of the consumer of TFs, especially ones that are G1 homages like Classics/Generations/United.
And I'd bet that an even larger portion of Seibertron.com readers are adults. Many of us either can't fork over the money to buy Takara's versions or don't want to when Hasbro's are good enough and don't cost an arm & a leg.
Call me cynical, but I think Takara is well aware of the superiority of their product & know that they can make some money off of hard core (mostly) American consumers.
The problem for Hasbro, though, is that people like me who'd buy a remold of a previously released toy if it looked like Takara's version might not do so if it is different like Hasbro's version. For example, I have TFU Inferno. I don't think I'll be getting Grapple. But, if Hasbro's version looked like Takara's, I would definitely buy Grapple. Therefore, Hasbro lost out on a chance to sell a particular product.
Now I'm sure some will prefer Hasbro's Grapple over Takara's, but the consumers don't have much of a choice unless they spend a lot of money.
Posted by Joetx on December 25th, 2010 @ 1:11pm CST
Mkall wrote:Joetx wrote:I know it's subjective, and I bet it's been discussed to death, but why are Takara's versions so much better looking than Hasbro's?
TT's versions are usually more detailed because they target collectors (Both Japanese and Others) and thus usually add more accurate/detailed paint apps.
Who does Hasbro target then? Obviously, kids are 1 of the targets. But I'd bet that adult collectors make up a significant portion of the consumer of TFs, especially ones that are G1 homages like Classics/Generations/United.
And I'd bet that an even larger portion of Seibertron.com readers are adults. Many of us either can't fork over the money to buy Takara's versions or don't want to when Hasbro's are good enough and don't cost an arm & a leg.
Call me cynical, but I think Takara is well aware of the superiority of their product & know that they can make some money off of hard core (mostly) American consumers.
The problem for Hasbro, though, is that people like me who'd buy a remold of a previously released toy if it looked like Takara's version might not do so if it is different like Hasbro's version. For example, I have TFU Inferno. I don't think I'll be getting Grapple. But, if Hasbro's version looked like Takara's, I would definitely buy Grapple. Therefore, Hasbro lost out on a chance to sell a particular product.
Now I'm sure some will prefer Hasbro's Grapple over Takara's, but the consumers don't have much of a choice unless they spend a lot of money.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1161844)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 25th, 2010 @ 1:38pm CST
Hasbro is a Toys & Entertainment company, so its prime targets are kids and their parents, period. We Collectors only make up 10 to 20 percent of the total market, enough to warrant Hasbro listening to us, but not enough to release exclusive merchandise. We simply pose too much of a market risk for Hasbro, that's why such things are outsourced to the likes of FunPub, end of discussion.
TakaraTomy focuses on the Collectibles more because there's a bigger market for them in Japan. Plus, it was also kind of pushed there by Bandai
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 25th, 2010 @ 1:38pm CST
Joetx wrote:Mkall wrote:Joetx wrote:I know it's subjective, and I bet it's been discussed to death, but why are Takara's versions so much better looking than Hasbro's?
TT's versions are usually more detailed because they target collectors (Both Japanese and Others) and thus usually add more accurate/detailed paint apps.
Who does Hasbro target then? Obviously, kids are 1 of the targets. But I'd bet that adult collectors make up a significant portion of the consumer of TFs, especially ones that are G1 homages like Classics/Generations/United.
And I'd bet that an even larger portion of Seibertron.com readers are adults. Many of us either can't fork over the money to buy Takara's versions or don't want to when Hasbro's are good enough and don't cost an arm & a leg.
Call me cynical, but I think Takara is well aware of the superiority of their product & know that they can make some money off of hard core (mostly) American consumers.
The problem for Hasbro, though, is that people like me who'd buy a remold of a previously released toy if it looked like Takara's version might not do so if it is different like Hasbro's version. For example, I have TFU Inferno. I don't think I'll be getting Grapple. But, if Hasbro's version looked like Takara's, I would definitely buy Grapple. Therefore, Hasbro lost out on a chance to sell a particular product.
Now I'm sure some will prefer Hasbro's Grapple over Takara's, but the consumers don't have much of a choice unless they spend a lot of money.
Hasbro is a Toys & Entertainment company, so its prime targets are kids and their parents, period. We Collectors only make up 10 to 20 percent of the total market, enough to warrant Hasbro listening to us, but not enough to release exclusive merchandise. We simply pose too much of a market risk for Hasbro, that's why such things are outsourced to the likes of FunPub, end of discussion.
TakaraTomy focuses on the Collectibles more because there's a bigger market for them in Japan. Plus, it was also kind of pushed there by Bandai
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update: Transformers United Wave 2 - Grapple, Jazz, Tracks and Lugnut (1162024)
Posted by Macross on December 25th, 2010 @ 10:00pm CST
Posted by Macross on December 25th, 2010 @ 10:00pm CST
I don't really see what the big deal is about Takara's versions being more detailed/accurate than Hasbro's, just buy whichever version you like best.
I guess some people expect to get Takara's quality at Hasbro's prices.
I also find most Hasbro's versions to be very close to their Henkei/United counterparts or at least pretty decent with only a few exceptions (Voyaguer Megatron, Astrotrain, Cyclonus, Classics 1.0 Starscream, you get the idea)
I guess some people expect to get Takara's quality at Hasbro's prices.
I also find most Hasbro's versions to be very close to their Henkei/United counterparts or at least pretty decent with only a few exceptions (Voyaguer Megatron, Astrotrain, Cyclonus, Classics 1.0 Starscream, you get the idea)
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