Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Rook / Nosecone Retool Comparisons
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Comment by RevTibe
May 25, 2016
Seeing the new parts on Rook really highlights how clever the retool was; Nosecone winds up feeling much more distinct than he actually is.
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Comment by TF-fan kev777
May 25, 2016
Oh man, that is a really nice retool. Can't wait for August!
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Comment by Kurona
May 25, 2016
I'm kinda surprised they're using Rook to show it off rather than Roller, considering Rook was never released in Japan.
Ah well. It's still a really interesting look into the design process and it's probably one of my favourite retools just from appearances; another reason I wish Takara released their UW guys separately haha. I need him if only for Giga Drill Break combiners
Ah well. It's still a really interesting look into the design process and it's probably one of my favourite retools just from appearances; another reason I wish Takara released their UW guys separately haha. I need him if only for Giga Drill Break combiners
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Comment by Noideaforaname
May 25, 2016
Oh wow, I had assumed they completely overhauled the entire mold, but no.
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(Very curious about the exact production times involved with some of the Hasbro v. Takara molds, especially in regards to Computron. We know Takara's unique retools/mold were designed after mainline Combiner Wars, but how much later?)
Comment by RevTibe
May 25, 2016
Considering the production times involved, Takara was probably crafting those parts before any Rollers were produced - the prototype might even be built around a Rook test shot.Kurona wrote:I'm kinda surprised they're using Rook to show it off rather than Roller, considering Rook was never released in Japan.
(Very curious about the exact production times involved with some of the Hasbro v. Takara molds, especially in regards to Computron. We know Takara's unique retools/mold were designed after mainline Combiner Wars, but how much later?)
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Comment by Seibertron
May 25, 2016
Now those are some awesome comparison shots. Very cool to see.
Unfortunately, I just realized that Nosecone's fists weren't redone so he can't hold his gun properly. Ugh.
So good news, bad news.
Unfortunately, I just realized that Nosecone's fists weren't redone so he can't hold his gun properly. Ugh.
So good news, bad news.
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He can always Fusion Cannon/Null Ray it up, which is always cool.
Comment by Kurona
May 25, 2016
Seibertron wrote:Now those are some awesome comparison shots. Very cool to see.
Unfortunately, I just realized that Nosecone's fists weren't redone so he can't hold his gun properly. Ugh.
So good news, bad news.
He can always Fusion Cannon/Null Ray it up, which is always cool.
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B-but giant drill fist!
Comment by RevTibe
May 25, 2016
Seibertron wrote:Unfortunately, I just realized that Nosecone's fists weren't redone so he can't hold his gun properly. Ugh.
B-but giant drill fist!
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They did give us the next best thing. Putting a 5 mm post on the back of the guns so you can push it into his fists to give the illusion he is holding them properly.
Comment by TF-fan kev777
May 25, 2016
Seibertron wrote:Now those are some awesome comparison shots. Very cool to see.
Unfortunately, I just realized that Nosecone's fists weren't redone so he can't hold his gun properly. Ugh.
So good news, bad news.
They did give us the next best thing. Putting a 5 mm post on the back of the guns so you can push it into his fists to give the illusion he is holding them properly.
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Comment by RiddlerJ
May 25, 2016
Twin Twist redeco! Give him two drills!
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Comment by Optimizzy
May 25, 2016
so glad I have this on pre-order
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Comment by ZeroWolf
May 25, 2016
He needs bigger drills...and sunglasses of course 
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I like his drills. bigger than what we normally get! Drill hand!!
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 25, 2016
ZeroWolf wrote:He needs bigger drills...and sunglasses of course
I like his drills. bigger than what we normally get! Drill hand!!

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Don't worry! Dr. Albert W. Wily has got you covered!
Comment by Wolfman Jake
May 25, 2016
RiddlerJ wrote:Twin Twist redeco! Give him two drills!
Don't worry! Dr. Albert W. Wily has got you covered!
Drill Man

Ground Man


Ground Man

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Pop his combiner hand into one of his armholes. Yeah, it'll be comically oversized, but you can't have everything.
Comment by Optimum Supreme
May 25, 2016
Seibertron wrote:Now those are some awesome comparison shots. Very cool to see.
Unfortunately, I just realized that Nosecone's fists weren't redone so he can't hold his gun properly. Ugh.
So good news, bad news.
Pop his combiner hand into one of his armholes. Yeah, it'll be comically oversized, but you can't have everything.
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Add that Ground Man is one of only 4 Robot Masters that can actually transform into a vehicle (the others are Turbo Man from MM7, Galaxy Man from MM9 and Nitro Man from MM10), and you got a kitbash idea ready to go
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
May 25, 2016
Wolfman Jake wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Twin Twist redeco! Give him two drills!
Don't worry! Dr. Albert W. Wily has got you covered!Drill Man
Ground Man
Add that Ground Man is one of only 4 Robot Masters that can actually transform into a vehicle (the others are Turbo Man from MM7, Galaxy Man from MM9 and Nitro Man from MM10), and you got a kitbash idea ready to go
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If only Cosmos were Deluxe sized! However, we might be able to cheat a bit with Tengu Man. He kinda has a slightly more jet-like form when he's flying around. Use the Deluxe Groove mold for Nitro Man, the Dragstrip mole for Turbo Man, and the Unite Warriors Nosecone mold for Drill Man, and all we would need is a torso that could approximate one of the man Wily Machines in the series. A Legends sized Cosmos mold as Galaxy Man could be the sixth, optional team member, a la for Scrounge with Hasbro's Combiner Wars Computron set. Capcom! Hasbro! Takara Tomy! Make this happen!
Comment by Wolfman Jake
May 25, 2016
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Twin Twist redeco! Give him two drills!
Don't worry! Dr. Albert W. Wily has got you covered!Drill Man
Ground Man
Add that Ground Man is one of only 4 Robot Masters that can actually transform into a vehicle (the others are Turbo Man from MM7, Galaxy Man from MM9 and Nitro Man from MM10), and you got a kitbash idea ready to go
If only Cosmos were Deluxe sized! However, we might be able to cheat a bit with Tengu Man. He kinda has a slightly more jet-like form when he's flying around. Use the Deluxe Groove mold for Nitro Man, the Dragstrip mole for Turbo Man, and the Unite Warriors Nosecone mold for Drill Man, and all we would need is a torso that could approximate one of the man Wily Machines in the series. A Legends sized Cosmos mold as Galaxy Man could be the sixth, optional team member, a la for Scrounge with Hasbro's Combiner Wars Computron set. Capcom! Hasbro! Takara Tomy! Make this happen!
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Absolutely.
Re-tooling to this extent, as least in terms of final look, is a large reason why this UW set is a must have imo.
Comment by Sowndwave76
May 25, 2016
RevTibe wrote:Seeing the new parts on Rook really highlights how clever the retool was; Nosecone winds up feeling much more distinct than he actually is.
Absolutely.
Re-tooling to this extent, as least in terms of final look, is a large reason why this UW set is a must have imo.
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) and TF mash-up just yet. I for one am ready to give it a go!
Back to the subject at hand. I still don't know how I feel about the Takara's Nosecone. Yeah I think it's way better than Hasbro's, the amount of cool-ness they did to make it happen is impressive, but there is still just something about it that just doesn't jive with me. I can't quite put a finger on it. Maybe too much stuff?
I think Takara has Hasbro beat in alt mode and vice versa for bot mode. I think that this late in the game for UW/CW; I just want to have my cake and eat it too.
Comment by no-one
May 25, 2016
I don't think the universe is ready to contain the awesome that would be a Mega Rock Man (forgot this is the UW threadWolfman Jake wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Twin Twist redeco! Give him two drills!
Don't worry! Dr. Albert W. Wily has got you covered!Drill Man
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Ground Man
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Add that Ground Man is one of only 4 Robot Masters that can actually transform into a vehicle (the others are Turbo Man from MM7, Galaxy Man from MM9 and Nitro Man from MM10), and you got a kitbash idea ready to go
If only Cosmos were Deluxe sized! However, we might be able to cheat a bit with Tengu Man. He kinda has a slightly more jet-like form when he's flying around. Use the Deluxe Groove mold for Nitro Man, the Dragstrip mole for Turbo Man, and the Unite Warriors Nosecone mold for Drill Man, and all we would need is a torso that could approximate one of the man Wily Machines in the series. A Legends sized Cosmos mold as Galaxy Man could be the sixth, optional team member, a la for Scrounge with Hasbro's Combiner Wars Computron set. Capcom! Hasbro! Takara Tomy! Make this happen!
Back to the subject at hand. I still don't know how I feel about the Takara's Nosecone. Yeah I think it's way better than Hasbro's, the amount of cool-ness they did to make it happen is impressive, but there is still just something about it that just doesn't jive with me. I can't quite put a finger on it. Maybe too much stuff?
I think Takara has Hasbro beat in alt mode and vice versa for bot mode. I think that this late in the game for UW/CW; I just want to have my cake and eat it too.
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It's not as easy of a choice as, say, buying UW Menasor + CW Drag Strip.
Comment by RevTibe
May 25, 2016
Yeah, I feel like that's been a theme with Computron! Both versions have a lot (and different) things to offer, only entirely satisfying option would probably be to buy both (but money!).carytheone wrote:I just want to have my cake and eat it too.
It's not as easy of a choice as, say, buying UW Menasor + CW Drag Strip.