TFClub Updates: DSLR, Project Deva, PCC WWII Figures

awesome! a lot of that looks like stuff i want, haha.
Even though the limbs for bombshock have some wierd robot modes for the planes, if it ends up looking good, damn... lucky people who have bombshock.
And the rest is obviously killer... that Reflector makes me wonder how we're getting 2 3rd party reflectors so close to each other...

I don't usually get in on this, but just in case there is an official Has/Tak person, or anyone who knows enough, reading this; I have a genuine question:

If a third-party company can concieve, design and produce this Devastator (with full articulation and intergrated combiner parts) why can't Hasbro?
I understand it would be expensive to produce and price even for an official product, and I understand companies not wanting to put risk items on shelves in case they don't sell-but surely this is a no-brainer? They had the perfect chance to market the hell out of the name Devastator after ROTF. What child after seeing that awesome monster on the screen wouldn't light up at the sight of any toy box carrying the name? (put him in generations/RTS?) And anyone with a brain knows collectors would (and do!) want this!
They'd be selling to both sides of the fence, surley.

I know marketing tactics are weird, I've had some brief experience. But seriously?
And, from pics of the individual bots, aren't they scout or deluxe? The full size of Devy wouldn't cause problems with toy safety stuff, would it? Again, ROTF Devy was safe enough to sell.

It makes you wonder how this is happening...

OMFGWNIT...

PCC Bruticus suddenly sucks alot less... seriously.. I bought Bruticus and Defensor, matched the limbs energon style.....and now.. It's for naught...

That is sexy... Like it could stand next to FP bruticus sexy..(not too close tho')

If the Reflector isn't a midget I'll be interested..

and D.E.V.A.S.T.A.T.O.R.
(You told your wife you got her the new 12" Devastator for her birthday,
imagine her disappointment when she opens it to find this...)-Toyfare

Looking forward to this even more seeing a real combined mode. Having PCC Bombshock and the combaticons, I can agree it looks 100 times better now!
As someone above mentioned, Heavy Tread would also be a good torso. Specially since he is a bit thicker in torso mode with a larger head than Bombshock. May look a little more well proportioned. Planning on getting 2 sets myself. One for Bombshock and one to possibly be painted up as the Desert Camo Ruination. Have the Autobot version of Bombshock. Don't recall his name but definitely looks like a Ruination Piece.

Devastator looks sweet, but my bank account is going to hate me for a long time I imagine.

Gonna pass on the PCC, the FP Bruticus add-ons are an act that just can't be followed. Guess I can safely ditch those PCC sets I've been hanging onto now. I wonder if anyone is working on a Stunticon version for the Crankcase set?

Have any robot mode pics of their Reflector version been released? Though I honestly can't imagine anything surpassing the PE set.

El Duque wrote:I'll be purchasing all three of these projects.

I wholeheartedly agree and will be mimicking the above post.

Ooh Not-Devy's looking hot.

Hope its not too expensive. The rest I really have no need for.

^^ Not to mention if Hasbro did this and charged $500-600 "we" would probably throw a friggin' sissy fit of epic proportions. As T-Mack stated, they're perfectly capable, it's just not necessarily in their best interest...and probably couldn't put out the same figure and still adhere to safety laws.

T-Macksimus wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:I don't usually get in on this, but just in case there is an official Has/Tak person, or anyone who knows enough, reading this; I have a genuine question:

If a third-party company can concieve, design and produce this Devastator (with full articulation and intergrated combiner parts) why can't Hasbro?
I understand it would be expensive to produce and price even for an official product, and I understand companies not wanting to put risk items on shelves in case they don't sell-but surely this is a no-brainer? They had the perfect chance to market the hell out of the name Devastator after ROTF. What child after seeing that awesome monster on the screen wouldn't light up at the sight of any toy box carrying the name? (put him in generations/RTS?) And anyone with a brain knows collectors would (and do!) want this!
They'd be selling to both sides of the fence, surley.

I know marketing tactics are weird, I've had some brief experience. But seriously?
And, from pics of the individual bots, aren't they scout or deluxe? The full size of Devy wouldn't cause problems with toy safety stuff, would it? Again, ROTF Devy was safe enough to sell.

It makes you wonder how this is happening...

Ahh, the question that all of us collectors ask but Hasbro/Takara rarely comes right out and answers. Basically it boils down to the fact that despite how many of us collectors there are out there, kids still outnumber us but a huge margin and Corporate is going to follow the numbers. They are perfectly capable of producing the stuff but in the long run it's just not as profitable as kicking out stuff they figure will appeal to the legions of 5 to 10 year olds that will whine/badger their parents out of 10 or 20 dollars/pounds/quid/euros or whatever.
Yeah it sucks but we are still in the minority and are going to have to miss out on a lot of what we think is cool stuff because of it. While they could give us all the parts for Devs in the Generations line, again it would likely be only the collectors completing the set so it's not worth it to invest in a gimmick when they could make more stuff to appeal to the younger crowd.

Yet another reason why being a grown-up really really sucks!

Marketing woes and my complaining about aging (on the eve of my birthday, go figure) aside I have to say that I'm digging these PCC figures and the Not Devastator is starting to look more and more amazing. My wallet is weeping already.

well I thank you for your attention and your reply, but this was exactly my point. Being aware of all these points ROTF would have been a really good point to capitalise on these rules they face. Surely 5-10 year old kids would pester parents silly for anything saying Devastator. NO?
I've had first hand experience at this, which is why I avoid the issue usually. I'm not the odd whiny collector who thinks he is (or should be) top of their sales list. And I realise plenty of good peeps at hasbro and takara are doing their best to give people what they want, as I did when I was a designer faced with corporate twaddle. The recent RTS/Generations Jazz, thunderwing and all alike are proof that they are trying. It's also a bit irritating for them to think the way they do about kids. We were never rich, which is why I never had as many TFS as I wanted when I was a kid. To be fair, nearly all my kiddie collection were odd TFS that had little or no show pressence-but I didn't care! There was a TF on the shelf and I wanted it! Generation gap or no...that still has to ring true for a good portion of kids, right? Or am I just being difficult now?
Ah well. Just my 2 cents...maybe I just needed a vent.
Thanks again mate. Sadly, whilst like yourself they do look nifty, I think I'll end up being beaten by the prices.

Devy just keeps getting better and better. Just Mixmaster left to check out now. And any accessories (at least a chest shield & gun I would hope).